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Ankurmysha

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Jan 24, 2022
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I have applied for my pr card renewal.
Paper Application sent to Sydney- 15 July 2021
Acknoledgment received - 20th sep 2021
Started processing Application - 10th Oct 2021
Latest update received the application is transferred to local officer and they will contact .
Kindly advice what is the next step and how long do I have to wait.
 

canuck78

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Jun 18, 2017
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I have applied for my pr card renewal.
Paper Application sent to Sydney- 15 July 2021
Acknoledgment received - 20th sep 2021
Started processing Application - 10th Oct 2021
Latest update received the application is transferred to local officer and they will contact .
Kindly advice what is the next step and how long do I have to wait.
You wait. Assume you should hear soon if you are well over the 730 days and there are no concerns.
 

Ankurmysha

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Jan 24, 2022
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Thanks for the reply. I missed approx 40 days from 730 days. At that time i was in india for my marriage and when i planned back to come to canada my flight tickets got cancelled and pushed for next months due to first flight ban what should i do now. Kindly advice
 

canuck78

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Jun 18, 2017
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Thanks for the reply. I missed approx 40 days from 730 days. At that time i was in india for my marriage and when i planned back to come to canada my flight tickets got cancelled and pushed for next months due to first flight ban what should i do now. Kindly advice
You applied when you hadn’t met the 730 days out of the past 5 years?
 

canuck78

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Jun 18, 2017
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no i didn't complete 730 days. 40 days were missing .
There is no timeline then and you don’t qualify for approval so it’s hard to say what will happen. Would make sure you remain in Canada until you get this sorted out. You shouldn’t have applied until you were over the 730 days. Would add that you can’t sponsor your spouse until you are compliant with your RO.
 

Ankurmysha

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Jan 24, 2022
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There is no timeline then and you don’t qualify for approval so it’s hard to say what will happen. Would make sure you remain in Canada until you get this sorted out. You shouldn’t have applied until you were over the 730 days. Would add that you can’t sponsor your spouse until you are compliant with your RO.
The time when i applied for my pr card renewal and they received it then started processing the application it's more than 730 days . I sponsored my wife at the same time and we received AOR1 , AOr2 , medical done.
 

canuck78

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Jun 18, 2017
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The time when i applied for my pr card renewal and they received it then started processing the application it's more than 730 days . I sponsored my wife at the same time and we received AOR1 , AOr2 , medical done.
This is because you didn’t qualify to apply for PR card renewal. There is no standard application times of you don’t qualify for PR card renewal. It is actually a good thing that your application has been delayed because you may now meet the R0. As of today have you met the 730 days in the past 5 years? Would suggest consulting a Lawyer
 

Ankurmysha

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Jan 24, 2022
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This is because you didn’t qualify to apply for PR card renewal. There is no standard application times of you don’t qualify for PR card renewal. It is actually a good thing that your application has been delayed because you may now meet the R0. As of today have you met the 730 days in the past 5 years? Would suggest consulting a Lawyer
Yes as of today i have crossed more than 730 days . Immigration agents told me that my pr card is printed and shifted to Etobicoke office to some local officer.
 

canuck78

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Jun 18, 2017
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Yes as of today i have crossed more than 730 days . Immigration agents told me that my pr card is printed and shifted to Etobicoke office to some local officer.
If it wasn’t shipped to you they want to sit down with you to review when you’ve been in Canada and whether you now meet the RO. Due to Covid you may get lucky and not meeting your RO may be overlooked since you now meet your RO. There are no guarantees that not meeting your RO when you applied to sponsor your spouse will be overlooked you’ll need to wait and see. Never apply to renew your PR card or sponsor someone unless you are compliant with your RO. Your file may be flagged and your RO may be checked more closely at borders/airports from now on.
 

dpenabill

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Apr 2, 2010
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Yes as of today i have crossed more than 730 days . Immigration agents told me that my pr card is printed and shifted to Etobicoke office to some local officer.
[and in response to other posts above]:

For clarification: There should be no risk of losing PR status now.

Meeting the RO on the day an application is made for a new PR card, or to sponsor a spouse, is the best approach, the only for sure safe approach, and obviously a key factor in how things go. However, even though that is true, in the meantime the days IN Canada since the date of an application continue to count toward meeting the RO. So going forward there should be no danger that IRCC would engage in a formal RO compliance examination that could result in a 44(1) Inadmissibility Report and Removal Order. (Now that you have been in Canada more than 730 days within the preceding five years, as long as you do not leave Canada for long enough to no longer meet that, there is no risk of losing PR for a breach of the RO UNLESS IRCC challenged the number of days itself.)

There is a potentially significant difference, however, in the impact on the sponsorship application versus the PR card application.

Whether a PR is eligible for a new PR card, or not, on the date the PR card application is made, does not necessarily dictate the PR's eligibility for a PR card any day after that. As is your situation, where staying after applying for the PR card has allowed you to get into RO compliance (since days in Canada after applying continue to count), you now are eligible for a new PR card. (More obvious example is that a PR abroad is not eligible to apply for a new PR card, even if they have four years credit toward the RO; they need to apply when they are IN Canada to meet the eligibility requirements IRCC states in their instructions.)

In contrast, eligibility to sponsor a family member on the date of the sponsorship application is a requirement to sponsor. Being in breach of RO means the PR is inadmissible. An inadmissible PR is not eligible to sponsor a family member. There should be a lot more discussion related to this in the part of this site where family class PR applications are discussed. Last I looked (but I have not been looking much for a long while), the good news is that unless the breach of RO is blatant and big enough to trigger a formal RO compliance examination which results in a 44(1) Report and Removal Order, it appears many family class sponsorships are NOT derailed because the sponsor was somewhat short of complying with the RO as of the day the application was made.

In any event, the risk when applying for a new PR card when short of complying with the RO is twofold:
-- if the breach is substantial, the PR can be referred to a local office for a formal RO compliance interview/examination, and if still in breach on the day of that interview (or examination date if a live interview is not involved), a 44(1) Report prepared and a Removal Order issued, a decision that terminates PR status (subject to right of appeal), OR​
-- the shortfall triggers non-routine processing and lengthy delays in getting in a new PR card;​
-- -- this can include a referral for Secondary Review, which can delay how long IRCC takes to process the application by many months;, even a year or​
-- -- it can mean just a little longer than routine processing following receipt of the application followed by a decision to issue a new PR card but require the PR to do an in-person pick-up of the card, which involves at least a "counter interview," which is the usual, but can involve a sit-down interview; during covid it appears in-person pick-up has been indefinitely postponed for many if not all, meaning a delay in getting a new card that is ongoing​

So you have no worries about a RO interview/examination now. No worry that your PR status is at stake. But the impact on the sponsorship application remains pending and it is difficult to forecast how long it might be before you physically have a new PR card.
 

armoured

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Thanks for the reply. I missed approx 40 days from 730 days. At that time i was in india for my marriage and when i planned back to come to canada my flight tickets got cancelled and pushed for next months due to first flight ban what should i do now. Kindly advice
The time when i applied for my pr card renewal and they received it then started processing the application it's more than 730 days . I sponsored my wife at the same time and we received AOR1 , AOr2 , medical done.
Did you apply to sponsor your spouse while you were out of Canada?

At any rate: I draw your attention to a key point in what @dpenabill wrote above, i.e. - if you were not eligible to sponsor your spouse when you applied (because out of compliance with RO), it may mean nothing at all that they have given you aor1 aor2 etc. Unfortunately they don't consistently refuse early in process (in fact I don't think at all at that stage) because sponsor was out of compliance - it goes through process and refusal can come later.

Now it's possible that they missed or ignored this (and could find it later and refuse), or saw it and decided to ignore it (although not sure they have the authority to do so).

In short: order gcms notes. You will be looking for some sign/note to effect htat you appeared to be out of compliance and/or recommended action. GCMS notes might take a lot longer than the 30 days they promise right now, there's a large backlog - 60-90 days perhaps timeframe to receive.
 

Ankurmysha

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Jan 24, 2022
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[and in response to other posts above]:

For clarification: There should be no risk of losing PR status now.

Meeting the RO on the day an application is made for a new PR card, or to sponsor a spouse, is the best approach, the only for sure safe approach, and obviously a key factor in how things go. However, even though that is true, in the meantime the days IN Canada since the date of an application continue to count toward meeting the RO. So going forward there should be no danger that IRCC would engage in a formal RO compliance examination that could result in a 44(1) Inadmissibility Report and Removal Order. (Now that you have been in Canada more than 730 days within the preceding five years, as long as you do not leave Canada for long enough to no longer meet that, there is no risk of losing PR for a breach of the RO UNLESS IRCC challenged the number of days itself.)

There is a potentially significant difference, however, in the impact on the sponsorship application versus the PR card application.

Whether a PR is eligible for a new PR card, or not, on the date the PR card application is made, does not necessarily dictate the PR's eligibility for a PR card any day after that. As is your situation, where staying after applying for the PR card has allowed you to get into RO compliance (since days in Canada after applying continue to count), you now are eligible for a new PR card. (More obvious example is that a PR abroad is not eligible to apply for a new PR card, even if they have four years credit toward the RO; they need to apply when they are IN Canada to meet the eligibility requirements IRCC states in their instructions.)

In contrast, eligibility to sponsor a family member on the date of the sponsorship application is a requirement to sponsor. Being in breach of RO means the PR is inadmissible. An inadmissible PR is not eligible to sponsor a family member. There should be a lot more discussion related to this in the part of this site where family class PR applications are discussed. Last I looked (but I have not been looking much for a long while), the good news is that unless the breach of RO is blatant and big enough to trigger a formal RO compliance examination which results in a 44(1) Report and Removal Order, it appears many family class sponsorships are NOT derailed because the sponsor was somewhat short of complying with the RO as of the day the application was made.

In any event, the risk when applying for a new PR card when short of complying with the RO is twofold:
-- if the breach is substantial, the PR can be referred to a local office for a formal RO compliance interview/examination, and if still in breach on the day of that interview (or examination date if a live interview is not involved), a 44(1) Report prepared and a Removal Order issued, a decision that terminates PR status (subject to right of appeal), OR​
-- the shortfall triggers non-routine processing and lengthy delays in getting in a new PR card;​
-- -- this can include a referral for Secondary Review, which can delay how long IRCC takes to process the application by many months;, even a year or​
-- -- it can mean just a little longer than routine processing following receipt of the application followed by a decision to issue a new PR card but require the PR to do an in-person pick-up of the card, which involves at least a "counter interview," which is the usual, but can involve a sit-down interview; during covid it appears in-person pick-up has been indefinitely postponed for many if not all, meaning a delay in getting a new card that is ongoing​

So you have no worries about a RO interview/examination now. No worry that your PR status is at stake. But the impact on the sponsorship application remains pending and it is difficult to forecast how long it might be before you physically have a new PR card.
Hi, when asked to Ircc about the current status of pr card agent provides only this information , card is printed and sent to VO etobicoke . An officer will call to schedule a pick up.
 

zaid9199

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Sep 28, 2020
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Hi, when asked to Ircc about the current status of pr card agent provides only this information , card is printed and sent to VO etobicoke . An officer will call to schedule a pick up.
That is all you can do at the moment, your card is probably ready for pickup. However; the invitation for pickup can take up to several months to 2 years and counting in some cases.