FSW Inland PR applicants

[AHHABB]

Somone on FB group is saying his friend is FSW Inland with June 2020 AOR just got his COPR. That's like 14 months time frame.

 

[Deleted member 1033589]

Somone on FB group is saying his friend is FSW Inland with June 2020 AOR just got his COPR. That's like 14 months time frame.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/askkubeir/posts/1855607517951461/

 

[Deleted member 1033589]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1424562862492684289

 

[sufjans]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1424562862492684289

Hi Samet, this is just an appreciation post for your relentless efforts to draw attention towards the struggles of fsw inland applicants. I wish all of us had the courage to speak up.

 

[admcdonald]

What is the legal procedure to sue? They have already violated procedural fairness. I think we have the right to do so.

 

[guelphite]

I know that Mark Holthe said that. But the keyword in his answer was "Meaningful way" to separate Inland and Overseas applications. If IRCC wants they can instruct their officers to process all the Inland applications but that would mean extra work. An officer would have to search an Inland Application and then process it or IRCC would have to flag all the Inland applications and process them. Either way it means extra work. Therefore, IRCC finds it easier just ask officers to process CEC which are already flagged as CEC and pause all others. Also because CEC has less things to look at such as proof of funds is not required for CEC, in operational terms it is easier to generate large number in less time by processing CEC to show processing efficiency. IRCC would of course prioritize meeting their targets over the wishes of its clients and not bother with anything that would be slow such as Instructing officers to search for FSW-Inland applications.

Exactly. There is a difference between being able to sort on something and being able to put it into a priority queue.

 

[NicoHughes]

What is the legal procedure to sue? They have already violated procedural fairness. I think we have the right to do so.

They will use COVID as excuse for everything, and blame every delay on COVID instead of themselves.

 

[ariocar]

They will use COVID as excuse for everything, and blame every delay on COVID instead of themselves.

Then how they're issuing COPRs to inland applicants with AORs in May 2021 and even July?!
How they're gonna defend that?
I'm down for taking them to court, but I'm afraid that we won't be able to get a court session in less than 6 month.
Most of us have passed the eligibility stage and got stuck in criminality review for over a year, it doesn't make sense at all! We're all inland applicants, if they want we can provide them RCMP screening if they want to, if that's what needed to pass the criminality and move to the next stages.
@legalfalcon

 

[Princes2020]

Hi Samet, this is just an appreciation post for your relentless efforts to draw attention towards the struggles of fsw inland applicants. I wish all of us had the courage to speak up.

I wish your wish come true!

 

[Princes2020]

Then how they're issuing COPRs to inland applicants with AORs in May 2021 and even July?!
How they're gonna defend that?
I'm down for taking them to court, but I'm afraid that we won't be able to get a court session in less than 6 month.
Most of us have passed the eligibility stage and got stuck in criminality review for over a year, it doesn't make sense at all! We're all inland applicants, if they want we can provide them RCMP screening if they want to, if that's what needed to pass the criminality and move to the next stages.
@legalfalcon

Let’s ponder over making a complaint to the human rights tribunal of Canada. If we could find a reason we can file the case without needing to involve a lawyer.

 

[ariocar]

Let’s ponder over making a complaint to the human rights tribunal of Canada. If we could find a reason we can file the case without needing to involve a lawyer.

How should we proceed?
https://www.chrc-ccdp.gc.ca/en/complaints/make-a-complaint

 

[Princes2020]

How should we proceed?
https://www.chrc-ccdp.gc.ca/en/complaints/make-a-complaint

Well, it’s tricky. We can’t directly file a complaint with the tribunal. We have to go throughout CHRC and if commission deems our case is fit, it will refer it to CHRT.
Now, if we read section 15 (equality of rights) of the Canadian charter of rights, we can make a case.
https://www.canada.ca/en/canadian-heritage/services/how-rights-protected/guide-canadian-charter-rights-freedoms.html#a2f
Also procedural fairness which should have been followed by IRCC has also not been followed.

 

[NicoHughes]

Then how they're issuing COPRs to inland applicants with AORs in May 2021 and even July?!
How they're gonna defend that?
I'm down for taking them to court, but I'm afraid that we won't be able to get a court session in less than 6 month.
Most of us have passed the eligibility stage and got stuck in criminality review for over a year, it doesn't make sense at all! We're all inland applicants, if they want we can provide them RCMP screening if they want to, if that's what needed to pass the criminality and move to the next stages.
@legalfalcon

> Then how they're issuing COPRs to inland applicants with AORs in May 2021 and even July?!

IRCC will claim that's due to "case by case", not a general timeline for everyone.

 

[admcdonald]

I am down for it no matter the consequences. Worst case scenario we will lose, but, correct me if I am wrong, if we sue them for violating procedural fairness, losing simply means they will take however long as they please to finalize our applications, right? It looks like inlanders can extend BWOP indefinitely anyway, so what do we have to lose?

Even if it takes several years to go to court, it's still worth it, I think, simply for the sake of justice.

 

[Princes2020]

Even if it takes several years to go to court, it's still worth it, I think, simply for the sake of justice.

I agree.