Need some help on immigration

[softwaregeek07]

Hi Guys,

About Me: I am working in a good software job in India and earning good salary and have all the comforts but somehow feel that for better quality of life I should move to Canada.

Would need some help on:
1. How can I start my immigration journey, like should I look for jobs first or file PR first. If yes in anycase then how?
2. I am Married with family and also plan to take my Mother along - is that possible then how ?

Please help with this.

 

[Naturgrl]

1. Look at Express Entry - FSW program and see if you are eligible. Take language tests and get degrees assessed. Getting a job offer unless you work for a company with Canadian offices is difficult.
2. Your mom is not part of your application. You can sponsor her (if selected by lottery) after you become PR and have met mininum Canadian income for at least 3 years. Income is based on the total number in your family. She can visit.

 

[softwaregeek07]

Thanks for your reply.

I do work for a company which has office in Canada too but I will not get a transfer - does this still qualify for anything.
For Mom short visits may not work. Is there any way to get her PR along or sooner than 3 years - she is financially independent and prove good financial stability. Does that help ?

 

[Naturgrl]

Thanks for your reply.

I do work for a company which has office in Canada too but I will not get a transfer - does this still qualify for anything.
For Mom short visits may not work. Is there any way to get her PR along or sooner than 3 years - she is financially independent and prove good financial stability. Does that help ?

1. No it doesn’t qualify.
2. No your mom is not eligible for PR sooner until you are selected for the lottery. It may take years or you may never be selected. That is the decision many people must make is leaving their parents in their home country. Having financial stability has no bearing other than it shows that she can afford to visit.

 

[softwaregeek07]

Sure thanks

Do you have rough idea what are the chances(%) of getting selected in lottery.
Also by the time she does not get a PR what is the maximum duration for which she can stay in Canada with me after I am there on Visitor visa or if any other special long term visa for parents.
I am just trying to understand if I can balance out things and she can continue to stay with me before I apply PR for her and we get.

Just trying to understand before taking this big step, as dont want to move without my mother.

 

[Naturgrl]

First, are you eligible for PR. Eligibility and CRS scores are based on age, education (masters), language and work experience.

As for your mother, it depends on the cap each year set by the Canadian government. The government may accept 10-30k per year and receive over 100k applications for the lottery. You need to meet LICO for at least 3 years for all your family members to be eligible. Once she has PR, she can live in Canada. She needs to pass a medical. However this is years away.

As a visitor, she can stay up to 6 months but border officers can tell her she can only stay a month. It is at their discretion. There are super visas but again you need to meet LICO which gives a longer time for a visitor visa. Visitor visas are not meant to live in Canada. She needs her own health/medical insurance as she would not be covered. So if she has medical needs you will need to budget for that for any visit.

 

[scylla]

Sure thanks

Do you have rough idea what are the chances(%) of getting selected in lottery.
Also by the time she does not get a PR what is the maximum duration for which she can stay in Canada with me after I am there on Visitor visa or if any other special long term visa for parents.
I am just trying to understand if I can balance out things and she can continue to stay with me before I apply PR for her and we get.

Just trying to understand before taking this big step, as dont want to move without my mother.

The rough estimate of being selected for the parent / grandparent lottery is 6% to 10%.

Approval of a visitor visa is not guaranteed. To have a decent chance of success, you will have to move first to Canada without your mother after you get PR and live in Canada for 6-8 months before your mother applies for a visitor visa. You should assume it will not be possible for your mother stay with you in Canada for the entire period until she gets PR and that there may be many months where you will be separated and she will need to be living in her home country alone (also some possibility that she won't be approved to visit Canada at all). If this does not work for you and you aren't willing to be separated, then you may want to rethink your plans of immigrating to Canada. This is the honest reality of the situation.

 

[softwaregeek07]

Thanks @Naturgrl @scylla for your help in understanding the process and taking the decision.

This all kind of is making me move towards a No as I am not willing to be in a situation where my Mom lives alone in India for years waiting for her PR.

Also was thinking if there is any other VISA option for her like investment Visa as I read(not understand fully) one can invest somewhere 100K-200K to get investment Visa - so is this some option?

 

[canuck78]

Thanks @Naturgrl @scylla for your help in understanding the process and taking the decision.

This all kind of is making me move towards a No as I am not willing to be in a situation where my Mom lives alone in India for years waiting for her PR.

Also was thinking if there is any other VISA option for her like investment Visa as I read(not understand fully) one can invest somewhere 100K-200K to get investment Visa - so is this some option?

Parent sponsorship programs are not guaranteed and are announced yearly. Investment options with purely money are currently closed, require a lot more money and took around 5 years and only involved Quebec. The investment programs are now more of a business investment programs where people need a business history and need plans to invest in a Canadian business. If you are not prepared to be separated then moving to Canada is probably not a good option.

 

[softwaregeek07]

Thanks @canuck78
I think it will be unfortunately a No for me then.
Because I may not be able to risk out the separation as you mentioned there is no guaranteed way. I wish there was some guaranteed way.

 

[scylla]

Thanks @canuck78
I think it will be unfortunately a No for me then.
Because I may not be able to risk out the separation as you mentioned there is no guaranteed way. I wish there was some guaranteed way.

Unfortunately there is no guaranteed way.

One option would be to go through the immigration process and then make the decision what you will do once you are approved and it's time to travel to Canada. Immigration circumstances won't have changed and there will still be no guarantee that your mother will be able to come with you as a visitor. However perhaps there will be more options by then for your mother in your home country, meaning there will be another family member that she can live with while you are in Canada and she is not. Good luck.

 

[canuck78]

Thanks @canuck78
I think it will be unfortunately a No for me then.
Because I may not be able to risk out the separation as you mentioned there is no guaranteed way. I wish there was some guaranteed way.

Canada has an ageing population and is trying to welcome close to 400k new PRs a year. It would be absolutely impossible for all the new immigrants to bring their parents and grandparents. Unfortunately many are under the false impression that Canada guarantees parents immigration and waiting the 3 years and meeting the income requirement are the obstacles.

 

[softwaregeek07]

Sure thanks again @scylla @canuck78 this all boils down to a No way for me then as it the risk is not worth if I have to come back after 3-4 years for this reason.

 

[canuck78]

Sure thanks again @scylla @canuck78 this all boils down to a No way for me then as it the risk is not worth if I have to come back after 3-4 years for this reason.

Immigration doesn't make sense for many families for a variety of reasons. If you have a good software job it may not make sense financially for your family to immigrate especially. Many are immigrating due to family and cultural pressure without reevaluating whether it makes sense for people to immigrate now.

 

[softwaregeek07]

Immigration doesn't make sense for many families for a variety of reasons. If you have a good software job it may not make sense financially for your family to immigrate especially. Many are immigrating due to family and cultural pressure without reevaluating whether it makes sense for people to immigrate now.

Yes understand and for me yes I have good financial stability and infact comparable to what I may get in Canada. So financially I may save more living in India being home. But for me major pulling factor is quality of life for whole family but do not want to be in another pressure of having to wait/no for my Mom's entry so feel seems a No go for me.