Sponsoring a spouse after getting married within 1 month

[chimkon]

Hello all,
I have an inquiry based question about a situation.
If a Canadian citizen meets their non-Canadian faience online for roughly 9 months then goes to meet her and her family and stay with them for about 1 month. then if everything is ok they plan to get married. then the Canadian citizen goes back to Canada and starts a spousal sponsorship. Would this raise any red flags as immigration wants to see that you have met before someone gets married? does someone have to meet with their faience multiple times on different trips before getting married? or will going on one long trip, meeting, then getting married be sufficient?

 

[armoured]

It will get additional scrutiny but other factors will be important as well.

 

[chimkon]

So if they call everyday for 5 hours and text through out the day. also parents and friends approve as well as they provide pictures of the before during and after the wedding. will this be sufficent?
or
how should someone go about? visit for a month and mabye get married. then go visit a few more times then start the sponsorship?

 

[Phalos]

So if they call everyday for 5 hours and text through out the day. also parents and friends approve as well as they provide pictures of the before during and after the wedding. will this be sufficent?
or
how should someone go about? visit for a month and mabye get married. then go visit a few more times then start the sponsorship?

Here at Phalos consulting we recommend visit at least once before starting sponsorship application. This is in order to avoid an interview.

 

[chimkon]

Hi Phalos, thank you for the quick reply.
so do you mean to go visit on another occasion before or after getting married? do they have to be separate occasions? so is it ok if the person visits, meets, then decides to get married. then after they get married, they go visit one more time and stays for a month again. then they start the application?

 

[Phalos]

Hi Phalos, thank you for the quick reply.
so do you mean to go visit on another occasion before or after getting married? do they have to be separate occasions? so is it ok if the person visits, meets, then decides to get married. then after they get married, they go visit one more time and stays for a month again. then they start the application?

At Phalos we recommend first visit to be pre-wedding, as in to get to know each other physically, meet parents, friends, relatives, make official proposal and set a future date for wedding which would be on a subsequent visit. Then go back Canada and apply for the sponsorship. Phalos guarantees no interview and hassle-free process.
If you do all on 1 visit 1 month, there will be scrutiny and that is can of worms you dont want open. In alternative you can choose to do 1 visit for 8-12 months and get married, but that is sometimes impractical. Whatever you do, keep photographic documentation, that is what ircc relies on most. Really the 5 hr daily chats are secondary proofs.

 

[armoured]

Phalos guarantees no interview and hassle-free process.

A money-back guarantee on free advice has very low intrinsic value.

That said, I agree with most of your points. Visiting multiple times is both a good idea for marriage generally, and will look less impulsive than just marrying after on-line chatting, no matter how many hours a day.

 

[chimkon]

At Phalos we recommend first visit to be pre-wedding, as in to get to know each other physically, meet parents, friends, relatives, make official proposal and set a future date for wedding which would be on a subsequent visit. Then go back Canada and apply for the sponsorship. Phalos guarantees no interview and hassle-free process.
If you do all on 1 visit 1 month, there will be scrutiny and that is can of worms you dont want open. In alternative you can choose to do 1 visit for 8-12 months and get married, but that is sometimes impractical. Whatever you do, keep photographic documentation, that is what ircc relies on most. Really the 5 hr daily chats are secondary proofs.

the thing is, the country that the person outside canada is living in a country where visitation is not allowed due to covid. so the Canadian citizen cant go visit any time. the non canadian is planning to go to their home country this summer where visitation is allowed and they will have to leave back to the country where visitation is not allowed again. so they will have to wait again till next summer if they want to set a date for a marriage

 

[chimkon]

Or can the Canadian person go visit early in July, then go back to Canada, then visit again in august to marry?
the other option is as I suggested before, where the Canadian person stays for a month or 2. marries. then they will now be able to visit their spouse the country that has travel restriction. they go visit the spouse there a few times as a married couple. then they go back to Canada and start the sponsorship?

 

[armoured]

the thing is, the country that the person outside canada is living in a country where visitation is not allowed due to covid. so the Canadian citizen cant go visit any time. the non canadian is planning to go to their home country this summer where visitation is allowed and they will have to leave back to the country where visitation is not allowed again. so they will have to wait again till next summer if they want to set a date for a marriage

You can try explaining of course that more visits have been complicated by covid. We can't tell you what other factors might play in to what happens because we don't know them (nor does anyone know exactly how IRCC will look at them).

If you met through a mail-order bride site - even more issues; if you have mutual friends and met online in that context - different situation. Big differences in age, education, etc, too. Do you have shared cultural background or not, communicate in native language, etc.

So overall - yes, just meeting online and then getting married at first meeting looks odd on its own. But context matters too.

IRCC puts fairly heavy weight on actual physical meetings at multiple times. Try to look at your application/relatonship history from an outsider's perspective and then you'll have to decide on your own how to proceed.

Note: if you want to apply earlier, you can continue to visit after submission and then provide that info to IRCC down the road. No guaratnee that will work either but should help.

 

[armoured]

Or can the Canadian person go visit early in July, then go back to Canada, then visit again in august to marry?
the other option is as I suggested before, where the Canadian person stays for a month or 2. marries. then they will now be able to visit their spouse the country that has travel restriction. they go visit the spouse there a few times as a married couple. then they go back to Canada and start the sponsorship?

Key question here is whether the spouse has a visa and can visit Canada. Obviously cannot before marriage (travel exemption needed) so would need to get a visa or from visa waiver country.

 

[Phalos]

Or can the Canadian person go visit early in July, then go back to Canada, then visit again in august to marry?
the other option is as I suggested before, where the Canadian person stays for a month or 2. marries. then they will now be able to visit their spouse the country that has travel restriction. they go visit the spouse there a few times as a married couple. then they go back to Canada and start the sponsorship?

Either or, as long as you have a couple of visits under your belt before sponsorship.
Once the sponsorship actually starts, the visits have less weight.
If you want a full bullet proof application, then best would be 2 visits before Applying and 1 more visit during the application. That way you shut out any IRCC doubt.
Any deviation from this plan, they start to raise flags.

 

[chimkon]

ok what if they explain in the application that it is their religious obligation to get married and to find a good spouse. since there isn't a many people in Canada that share the spencer's faith and culture they looked outside Canada using dating apps. when they finally met a perfect match interms of culture, language, religion as well as have very good relationship chemistry, they decided to pressure each other. they talk to each other parents, and the parents talk to each other regularly as well. they fell in love and cant bare separation from each other. they want to meet up but they cant. so they finally decide to go meet up in the person being sponsored home country as travel restrictions don't apply there and that since it is their religious obligation to get married, and that in their culture and religion it is not permissible for a husband and wife to be together without getting married they decide to get married after 2 months of being together (how ever not together alone but with the person being sponsored parents as it is not allowed for them to be alone as per their religion). will this be sufficient?

 

[armoured]

ok what if they explain in the application that it is their religious obligation to get married and to find a good spouse. since there isn't a many people in Canada that share the spencer's faith and culture they looked outside Canada using dating apps. when they finally met a perfect match interms of culture, language, religion as well as have very good relationship chemistry, they decided to pressure each other. they talk to each other parents, and the parents talk to each other regularly as well. they fell in love and cant bare separation from each other. they want to meet up but they cant. so they finally decide to go meet up in the person being sponsored home country as travel restrictions don't apply there and that since it is their religious obligation to get married, and that in their culture and religion it is not permissible for a husband and wife to be together without getting married they decide to get married after 2 months of being together (how ever not together alone but with the person being sponsored parents as it is not allowed for them to be alone as per their religion). will this be sufficient?

Is this an arranged marriage?

But overall in fewer words than you've put above, if this is the normal cultural approach in your country/culture, that will be given some weight. That's why I said context matters.

 

[chimkon]

Is this an arranged marriage?

But overall in fewer words than you've put above, if this is the normal cultural approach in your country/culture, that will be given some weight. That's why I said context matters.

Do you think if the applicant says it is an arranged marriage it will be more of a bullit proof plan? because technically the parents both do have to agree on the marriage and the marriage can not be allowed to take place if the parents do not agree that their kids get married. however, the parents did not know each other before the two spouses met.