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Could I create new express entry profile while another EE application is in progress.
MEP and BIL completed but not sure if they will accept job offer (not in company letter head and manager had just written until March 2022) and I may loose points. These days score is low for CEC, that's why I was wondering.
I am Inland CEC candidate with 2+ years of experience in Canada and score is 444.

EE Category - CEC (Inland) | VO - Vancouver | ITA - Oct 14, 2020 | AOR - Dec 10, 2020

MEP & BIL - Jan 19, 2021 | completed

Criminality - In-progress | Eligibility - Not Started | Security - Not Started | Info Sharing - Not Started
 

kgrajiv

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Hi @legalfalcon

I got my GCMS Notes and noticed one observation. I did request the same through 3rd party not by myself.

Current status is Info Sharing and Criminality is in progress and rest all are not started.
I did travel to US, UK but UK was almost 12 years back. While checking Info sharing section, in US it says two notes one with Ready to be Assessed and second one with Complete - Not Reviewed.
I do see other two entries for Aus, NZL. However I do not see an entry for UK or GBR. However I see two blank pages in between. Are they waiting for any input from UK. It is not clear in the notes.

Do do A11.2 check, is this necessary Criminality approval, if not what triggered Eligibility check ? In my case it is not started after 4 months now. I have seen few applicants where info sharing is still in progress where as they have completed the eligibility check completed.
 

legalfalcon

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FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi @legalfalcon

I got my GCMS Notes and noticed one observation. I did request the same through 3rd party not by myself.

Current status is Info Sharing and Criminality is in progress and rest all are not started.
I did travel to US, UK but UK was almost 12 years back. While checking Info sharing section, in US it says two notes one with Ready to be Assessed and second one with Complete - Not Reviewed.
I do see other two entries for Aus, NZL. However I do not see an entry for UK or GBR. However I see two blank pages in between. Are they waiting for any input from UK. It is not clear in the notes.

Do do A11.2 check, is this necessary Criminality approval, if not what triggered Eligibility check ? In my case it is not started after 4 months now. I have seen few applicants where info sharing is still in progress where as they have completed the eligibility check completed.
Criminality, inför sharing and eligibility are separate stages.

For info sharing Canada has agreements with each country, specially with the FCC, or the Five Country Conference (FCC), which is a forum for co-operation on migration and border security, between the countries of Australia, Canada, New Zealand, United Kingdom, and the United States.

Based on the agreement, Canada shares info with all these countries. Eg. with US, Canada shares biometric information, but not with NZ or Aus trail.

Info sharing, eligibility and eligibility are done separately and can proceed. For criminality and info sharing your biometrics should be on file. Some applicants who have their biometrics pending, will also have the criminality pending.

See the last 3-5 pages. You will see a R10 or completeness check note.


For US, see https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/reports-statistics/evaluations/biometrics-canada-united-states-immigration-information-sharing-initiatives.html

For general info sharing, see https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/migration/ircc/english/resources/manuals/in/in01-eng.pdf
 
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There is nothing in immigration law and inland or outland based on which applications are processed. Application are processed based on the program you applied under. Whether you are currently in Canada or not is only used to determine if your security screening will have a record check or a comprehensive check. See https://bit.ly/2LS5tLd
If you are in Canada they likely do a record check which is faster right?
 

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NOC Code......
2123
App. Filed.......
01/01/2020
Doc's Request.
18/02/2021
AOR Received.
01/02/2021
IELTS Request
18/07/2019
Med's Request
18/02/2021
Med's Done....
18/02/2021
Passport Req..
02/05/2022
VISA ISSUED...
13/05/2022
Hi @legalfalcon i received a letter today stating to upload background declaration form schedule A. I am worried what is it about?
Should i be worried??? Is it something wrong that I might have given in my application?
Can you please guide.
 
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legalfalcon

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Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi @legalfalcon i received a letter today stating to upload background declaration form schedule A. I am worried what is it about?
Should i be worried??? Is it something wrong that I might have given in my application?
Can you please guide.
This is a common request. If any info you previously submitted had gaps, or a confirmation of the same is required, IRCC can ask you to resubmit it.

It is IMM 5669 https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/migration/ircc/english/pdf/kits/forms/imm5669e.pdf
 
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NOC Code......
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App. Filed.......
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Doc's Request.
18/02/2021
AOR Received.
01/02/2021
IELTS Request
18/07/2019
Med's Request
18/02/2021
Med's Done....
18/02/2021
Passport Req..
02/05/2022
VISA ISSUED...
13/05/2022
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kgrajiv

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Criminality, inför sharing and eligibility are separate stages.

For info sharing Canada has agreements with each country, specially with the FCC, or the Five Country Conference (FCC), which is a forum for co-operation on migration and border security, between the countries of Australia, Canada, New Zealand, United Kingdom, and the United States.

Based on the agreement, Canada shares info with all these countries. Eg. with US, Canada shares biometric information, but not with NZ or Aus trail.

Info sharing, eligibility and eligibility are done separately and can proceed. For criminality and info sharing your biometrics should be on file. Some applicants who have their biometrics pending, will also have the criminality pending.

See the last 3-5 pages. You will see a R10 or completeness check note.


For US, see https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/reports-statistics/evaluations/biometrics-canada-united-states-immigration-information-sharing-initiatives.html

For general info sharing, see https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/migration/ircc/english/resources/manuals/in/in01-eng.pdf
Thanks @legalfalcon

On the Notes R10 OK and post that Recommendation : Review Required - Pending outstanding PC and Stat questions. Stats question is understandable as I had one US visa refusal. I did have new visas and visited US. May be its just confirmation for review. However from US in Info sharing section, I see NRT - review required and Complete - Need to be assessed. May be its pending for officer review for months now as no update beyond Nov?
 

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Hello @legalfalcon

Just came across this "Ask Question" threat and thought to ask my question here. Kindly advise.

I am writing to seek your opinion on my application. My concern is specific to Information Sharing between the US and Canada. I have done my research and can see details of information that is being shared in the Appendix B section of a link I saw online. https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/migration/ircc/english/resources/manuals/in/in02-eng.pdf


Here is the issue, a while back in 2017, I applied for a US Visitors Visa via an immigration agent. While I understand the onus is on me to verify the information by the agent is truthful, I did not do my due diligence and I take responsibility for that. So, the agent specified on the US Visa application that I was married of which I was not at the time. To the best of my knowledge, no documentation was submitted to support this. Just as an FYI, the visa application was refused and I would be declaring this in my application.


As of right now, I am married and still contemplating whether I should go via the Spousal Sponsorship route or Express entry route since I qualify for both. I understand that information would be shared regardless of the route I take. I have decided to be upfront with this mistake and to write a letter of explanation as well as a declaration of oath from a court to support my not being married as the time the US Visa application was submitted. I feel I should be upfront with the error cos if in the process of requesting information about me from the US, the marital status is shared (and I did not explain the information submitted by the agent), it could be termed as misrepresentation as the Spouse name will differ.


Kindly share with me your opinion on this issue.


Thank you kindly.
 

legalfalcon

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Sep 21, 2015
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Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Thanks @legalfalcon

On the Notes R10 OK and post that Recommendation : Review Required - Pending outstanding PC and Stat questions. Stats question is understandable as I had one US visa refusal. I did have new visas and visited US. May be its just confirmation for review. However from US in Info sharing section, I see NRT - review required and Complete - Need to be assessed. May be its pending for officer review for months now as no update beyond Nov?
R10 is the completeness check and if you have had a visa refusal, you will have review required.

NRT refers to No Reportable Trace, i.e. a clean record and is pending an officer's review before it can be updated.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hello @legalfalcon

Just came across this "Ask Question" threat and thought to ask my question here. Kindly advise.

I am writing to seek your opinion on my application. My concern is specific to Information Sharing between the US and Canada. I have done my research and can see details of information that is being shared in the Appendix B section of a link I saw online. https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/migration/ircc/english/resources/manuals/in/in02-eng.pdf


Here is the issue, a while back in 2017, I applied for a US Visitors Visa via an immigration agent. While I understand the onus is on me to verify the information by the agent is truthful, I did not do my due diligence and I take responsibility for that. So, the agent specified on the US Visa application that I was married of which I was not at the time. To the best of my knowledge, no documentation was submitted to support this. Just as an FYI, the visa application was refused and I would be declaring this in my application.


As of right now, I am married and still contemplating whether I should go via the Spousal Sponsorship route or Express entry route since I qualify for both. I understand that information would be shared regardless of the route I take. I have decided to be upfront with this mistake and to write a letter of explanation as well as a declaration of oath from a court to support my not being married as the time the US Visa application was submitted. I feel I should be upfront with the error cos if in the process of requesting information about me from the US, the marital status is shared (and I did not explain the information submitted by the agent), it could be termed as misrepresentation as the Spouse name will differ.


Kindly share with me your opinion on this issue.


Thank you kindly.
First of all, unless Canada, US immigration laws do not allow agents or consultants to file immigration or visa applications. Only lawyers can represent or file applications on behalf of clients to the USCIS. If you engaged an agent, most likely they were not licensed and not allowed to do any work with USCIS.

A visa refusal by itself not an issue per se, as long as you were not convicted of any crime, or immigration violation amounting to a serious criminal offence. If you do not fall in this category, as long as your disclose your visa rejection, you do not have to worry.

Also, not all information is shared. Only information pursuant to the agreement is shared. US and Canada all share biometrics.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Thanks for the prompt reply. Generally when do one receive schedule A? Like after how many days of AOR?
Additional, I have my spouse as dependent. So do i need schedule A for her as well??
Usually the letter that you receive from IRCC will clearly indicate for whom the Sch A is required. The PA or spouse or both.

An ADR can be sent anytime, but Sch a is usually send when criminality or eligibility starts.
 
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Moa_

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First of all, unless Canada, US immigration laws do not allow agents or consultants to file immigration or visa applications. Only lawyers can represent or file applications on behalf of clients to the USCIS. If you engaged an agent, most likely they were not licensed and not allowed to do any work with USCIS.

A visa refusal by itself not an issue per se, as long as you were not convicted of any crime, or immigration violation amounting to a serious criminal offence. If you do not fall in this category, as long as your disclose your visa rejection, you do not have to worry.

Also, not all information is shared. Only information pursuant to the agreement is shared. US and Canada all share biometrics.

Thank you kindly for the response.

Just so I understand, disclosing the US visa refusal is sufficient. There will be no need to write a letter of explanation for the marital status error. Is this correct?

Also, not all information is shared. Only information pursuant to the agreement is shared.
>> Will this be just the individual's name, DOB, gender and County of Birth?


US and Canada all share biometrics.
>> This is quite clear


Apologies for the trouble and thank you for your time.