Refugee Infractions leading to deportation

[LoveShea1971]

SORRY THIS IS LONG BUT NEED HELP PLEASE!
My friends husband has been trying to immigrate to Canada with existing convictions in United States for (3)drinking and driving, plus cocaine possession and domestic abuse. He didn't claim asylum while he was in United States after illegally entering several times and living there close to 20 years in total. He even has a son born in United States that he can't visit because he was deported about 6 years ago and sent back to Mexico.

He landed in Canada 2017, obtained a valid work permit, met and married a Canadian woman in 2019. Since getting married he has turned into a violent abusive alcoholic who doesn't care about her or the damage he's causing in her life. He's been very aggressive because he's taking illegal metabolic steroids. He has been physically destroying their home when he's drunk or on cocaine, police have been called several times for disturbing the peace and domestic violence and nothing was done. There have been several written complaints from the city and neighbours regarding his behaviour. He caused the death of her dog and is destroying her life. He was sharing an apartment with his girlfriend in a different city when they met. She never knew because his construction job provided housing for him in a different city where they met. After they married he told her his girlfriend from Mexico helped him get to Canada and was helping find a Canadian woman to marry so he could stay. The first woman he was going to marry helped him get the apartment for him and his Mexican girlfriend. My friend was deceived and lied to from the beginning and knew none of this crazy conspiracy that continued throughout their entire relationship. During their marriage he continued a relationship with his girlfriend from Mexico though facebook and messaging apps

She finally got him out of the house 2 weeks ago but he took her car and was pulled over and convicted for drinking and driving and lost his license for 3 months. The car and insurance were under her name and the car is now impounded. He refuses to pay the fines and penalties to get the car released and is also refusing to help with their mortgage and bills because he said he's going to need his money for lawyers to fix his conviction and immigration. He told her if he has to pay her support he will quit his job, disappear and work for cash. She called immigration and was told these aren't immigration issues. Some matters are for the police or Revenue Canada and was getting sent in circles trying to find someone to help.

With everything he's done even before he got here and how he's conducting himself in Canada what does it take to get this dirt bag out of the country! He doesn't deserve to live here! As soon as he gets his license back he's going to drink and drive again as proven many times and kill someone because he doesn't care about anyone but himself.
Even a lawyer said she will have to file for divorce and sell the house and legally he will get half of the assets even though all the assets and money to buy the house was hers from before they met. Because their marriage was short she won't get support payments from him either. They will most likely loose the house to the bank if it's tied up in litigation for several months if she can't afford the bills on her own with no help from him.
Can anyone help with this crazy mess?

 

[jddd]

SORRY THIS IS LONG BUT NEED HELP PLEASE!
My friends husband has been trying to immigrate to Canada with existing convictions in United States for (3)drinking and driving, plus cocaine possession and domestic abuse. He didn't claim asylum while he was in United States after illegally entering several times and living there close to 20 years in total. He even has a son born in United States that he can't visit because he was deported about 6 years ago and sent back to Mexico.

He landed in Canada 2017, obtained a valid work permit, met and married a Canadian woman in 2019. Since getting married he has turned into a violent abusive alcoholic who doesn't care about her or the damage he's causing in her life. He's been very aggressive because he's taking illegal metabolic steroids. He has been physically destroying their home when he's drunk or on cocaine, police have been called several times for disturbing the peace and domestic violence and nothing was done. There have been several written complaints from the city and neighbours regarding his behaviour. He caused the death of her dog and is destroying her life. He was sharing an apartment with his girlfriend in a different city when they met. She never knew because his construction job provided housing for him in a different city where they met. After they married he told her his girlfriend from Mexico helped him get to Canada and was helping find a Canadian woman to marry so he could stay. The first woman he was going to marry helped him get the apartment for him and his Mexican girlfriend. My friend was deceived and lied to from the beginning and knew none of this crazy conspiracy that continued throughout their entire relationship. During their marriage he continued a relationship with his girlfriend from Mexico though facebook and messaging apps

She finally got him out of the house 2 weeks ago but he took her car and was pulled over and convicted for drinking and driving and lost his license for 3 months. The car and insurance were under her name and the car is now impounded. He refuses to pay the fines and penalties to get the car released and is also refusing to help with their mortgage and bills because he said he's going to need his money for lawyers to fix his conviction and immigration. He told her if he has to pay her support he will quit his job, disappear and work for cash. She called immigration and was told these aren't immigration issues. Some matters are for the police or Revenue Canada and was getting sent in circles trying to find someone to help.

With everything he's done even before he got here and how he's conducting himself in Canada what does it take to get this dirt bag out of the country! He doesn't deserve to live here! As soon as he gets his license back he's going to drink and drive again as proven many times and kill someone because he doesn't care about anyone but himself.
Even a lawyer said she will have to file for divorce and sell the house and legally he will get half of the assets even though all the assets and money to buy the house was hers from before they met. Because their marriage was short she won't get support payments from him either. They will most likely loose the house to the bank if it's tied up in litigation for several months if she can't afford the bills on her own with no help from him.
Can anyone help with this crazy mess?

This seems to be a Family Law issue so would suggest contacting a family lawyer.

As for the immigration part, if this person has criminal charges, how did he get a work permit in 2017? if the person lied in his work permit and/or PR application and there is proof, report him and include the evidence. It does not matter how long it has been, even citizenship can be revoked if it was acquired via misrepresentation.

 

[scylla]

SORRY THIS IS LONG BUT NEED HELP PLEASE!
My friends husband has been trying to immigrate to Canada with existing convictions in United States for (3)drinking and driving, plus cocaine possession and domestic abuse. He didn't claim asylum while he was in United States after illegally entering several times and living there close to 20 years in total. He even has a son born in United States that he can't visit because he was deported about 6 years ago and sent back to Mexico.

He landed in Canada 2017, obtained a valid work permit, met and married a Canadian woman in 2019. Since getting married he has turned into a violent abusive alcoholic who doesn't care about her or the damage he's causing in her life. He's been very aggressive because he's taking illegal metabolic steroids. He has been physically destroying their home when he's drunk or on cocaine, police have been called several times for disturbing the peace and domestic violence and nothing was done. There have been several written complaints from the city and neighbours regarding his behaviour. He caused the death of her dog and is destroying her life. He was sharing an apartment with his girlfriend in a different city when they met. She never knew because his construction job provided housing for him in a different city where they met. After they married he told her his girlfriend from Mexico helped him get to Canada and was helping find a Canadian woman to marry so he could stay. The first woman he was going to marry helped him get the apartment for him and his Mexican girlfriend. My friend was deceived and lied to from the beginning and knew none of this crazy conspiracy that continued throughout their entire relationship. During their marriage he continued a relationship with his girlfriend from Mexico though facebook and messaging apps

She finally got him out of the house 2 weeks ago but he took her car and was pulled over and convicted for drinking and driving and lost his license for 3 months. The car and insurance were under her name and the car is now impounded. He refuses to pay the fines and penalties to get the car released and is also refusing to help with their mortgage and bills because he said he's going to need his money for lawyers to fix his conviction and immigration. He told her if he has to pay her support he will quit his job, disappear and work for cash. She called immigration and was told these aren't immigration issues. Some matters are for the police or Revenue Canada and was getting sent in circles trying to find someone to help.

With everything he's done even before he got here and how he's conducting himself in Canada what does it take to get this dirt bag out of the country! He doesn't deserve to live here! As soon as he gets his license back he's going to drink and drive again as proven many times and kill someone because he doesn't care about anyone but himself.
Even a lawyer said she will have to file for divorce and sell the house and legally he will get half of the assets even though all the assets and money to buy the house was hers from before they met. Because their marriage was short she won't get support payments from him either. They will most likely loose the house to the bank if it's tied up in litigation for several months if she can't afford the bills on her own with no help from him.
Can anyone help with this crazy mess?

Agreed that many of these issues aren't immigration issues or CRA issues. She needs to hire a family lawyer to help her through the divorce process to protect her assets (i.e. house) and determine if and how much she might receive from support payments.

Is he a permanent resident? Or does he just have temporary worker status in Canada? It's not that clear from your post.

It's a bit interesting that he managed to get to Canada with all of those convictions. Is he here under a TRP?

 

[scylla]

This seems to be a Family Law issue so would suggest contacting a family lawyer.

As for the immigration part, if this person has criminal charges, how did he get a work permit in 2017? if the person lied in his work permit and/or PR application and there is proof, report him and include the evidence. It does not matter how long it has been, even citizenship can be revoked if it was acquired via misrepresentation.

Maybe he managed to get here on a TRP. Would be surprising but anything is possible.

 

[Bornlucky]

Maybe he managed to get here on a TRP. Would be surprising but anything is possible.

Hi - it sounds as though he has made a claim to Convention refugee status - using the words "landed in Canada 2017" confuses things because the author doesn't know that this is a legal term for becoming a PR. The title of this thread suggests that he's a claimant.

If so, the claim will have to wind its way along but could be hobbled if the CBSA is made aware of his criminal past and they produce a Danger Opinion (if applicable). A finger print check should reveal who he is, if he's using an assumed identity, however alerting them to his "stated" criminal record never hurts.

Danger Opinions are supposed to restrict the refugee determination, preventing consideration under A96, the CR standard, and elevating consideration to A97 which has a higher threshold for any positive decision. Still, it's a process open to appeals and eventually a PRRA in the event of a negative finding, but criminal cases get priority in both the CBSA and Immigration departments.

Where a person is in Canada will effect how long these things take, but if he's disguised any of his information, used a false identity or has other criminal acts or unresolved allegations, he could be a good candidate for arrest and detention although his release on some sort of bond or terms and conditions would be very likely. Earlier detentions are good to support future arrests.

My dated experience with enforcement processes and priorities tells me that the CBSA would love to hear more about this guy and maybe go out and push him around before tossing him in a cage, even if it would be temporary. He'd then be required to report routinely as they go about running his real information and discovering what other things he's done that Canada doesn't like. He's been here 3 years but this doesn't mean that he claimed to be a CR when he arrived, so I'd prepare a detailed snitch letter and send it in to the local CBSA and CC a few members of Parliament (for their edification and my own pleasure). The letter can be anonymous without losing the veracity of the content but it requires his name(s) date of birth, etc.

At the risk of editorializing here, pulling a heavy on a heavy likely remains a guilty pleasure of immigration enforcement officers when their authorities collide with a potentially violent reprobate.

Good luck, and adios amigo

 

[scylla]

Hi - it sounds as though he has made a claim to Convention refugee status - using the words "landed in Canada 2017" confuses things because the author doesn't know that this is a legal term for becoming a PR. The title of this thread suggests that he's a claimant.

If so, the claim will have to wind its way along but could be hobbled if the CBSA is made aware of his criminal past and they produce a Danger Opinion (if applicable). A finger print check should reveal who he is, if he's using an assumed identity, however alerting them to his "stated" criminal record never hurts.

Danger Opinions are supposed to restrict the refugee determination, preventing consideration under A96, the CR standard, and elevating consideration to A97 which has a higher threshold for any positive decision. Still, it's a process open to appeals and eventually a PRRA in the event of a negative finding, but criminal cases get priority in both the CBSA and Immigration departments.

Where a person is in Canada will effect how long these things take, but if he's disguised any of his information, used a false identity or has other criminal acts or unresolved allegations, he could be a good candidate for arrest and detention although his release on some sort of bond or terms and conditions would be very likely. Earlier detentions are good to support future arrests.

My dated experience with enforcement processes and priorities tells me that the CBSA would love to hear more about this guy and maybe go out and push him around before tossing him in a cage, even if it would be temporary. He'd then be required to report routinely as they go about running his real information and discovering what other things he's done that Canada doesn't like. He's been here 3 years but this doesn't mean that he claimed to be a CR when he arrived, so I'd prepare a detailed snitch letter and send it in to the local CBSA and CC a few members of Parliament (for their edification and my own pleasure). The letter can be anonymous without losing the veracity of the content but it requires his name(s) date of birth, etc.

At the risk of editorializing here, pulling a heavy on a heavy likely remains a guilty pleasure of immigration enforcement officers when their authorities collide with a potentially violent reprobate.

Good luck, and adios amigo

Ah - that would make sense...

Yes, depending on the answer, I was going to recommend that the OP's friend file a report with CBSA. This won't necessarily help her in protecting her assets in the event of a divorce. She still needs to be working with a good family lawyer. But it will likely speed up his exit from Canada.

 

[Bornlucky]

Ah - that would make sense...

Yes, depending on the answer, I was going to recommend that the OP's friend file a report with CBSA. This won't necessarily help her in protecting her assets in the event of a divorce. She still needs to be working with a good family lawyer. But it will likely speed up his exit from Canada.

Hi - that's a very good idea as an enforcement file usually keeps other immigration officials alerted to something about the person being "hinky." Sometimes it helps to simply point form the concerns and then list the agencies or entities that would be interested in this fellow and report him to them.

It happens that not all fingerprints in the USA make it to the FBI data base for any number of reasons, so listing where he lived in the USA helps investigators gather the evidence necessary to create an inadmissibility report and go through adjudication to get a criminality-based removal order to support the other paper processes like the Danger Opinion.

He may have aliases that are unknown to anyone in Canada, and other criminality that dwarfs his currently understood anti-social behaviours.

Also, being the first to see a divorce lawyer is ALWAYS a financial benefit when severing a relationship.

Scylla, you provide excellent analysis on here that benefits a lot of earnest people so I tip my cap to you.

 

[LoveShea1971]

Hi - it sounds as though he has made a claim to Convention refugee status - using the words "landed in Canada 2017" confuses things because the author doesn't know that this is a legal term for becoming a PR. The title of this thread suggests that he's a claimant.

If so, the claim will have to wind its way along but could be hobbled if the CBSA is made aware of his criminal past and they produce a Danger Opinion (if applicable). A finger print check should reveal who he is, if he's using an assumed identity, however alerting them to his "stated" criminal record never hurts.

Danger Opinions are supposed to restrict the refugee determination, preventing consideration under A96, the CR standard, and elevating consideration to A97 which has a higher threshold for any positive decision. Still, it's a process open to appeals and eventually a PRRA in the event of a negative finding, but criminal cases get priority in both the CBSA and Immigration departments.

Where a person is in Canada will effect how long these things take, but if he's disguised any of his information, used a false identity or has other criminal acts or unresolved allegations, he could be a good candidate for arrest and detention although his release on some sort of bond or terms and conditions would be very likely. Earlier detentions are good to support future arrests.

My dated experience with enforcement processes and priorities tells me that the CBSA would love to hear more about this guy and maybe go out and push him around before tossing him in a cage, even if it would be temporary. He'd then be required to report routinely as they go about running his real information and discovering what other things he's done that Canada doesn't like. He's been here 3 years but this doesn't mean that he claimed to be a CR when he arrived, so I'd prepare a detailed snitch letter and send it in to the local CBSA and CC a few members of Parliament (for their edification and my own pleasure). The letter can be anonymous without losing the veracity of the content but it requires his name(s) date of birth, etc.

At the risk of editorializing here, pulling a heavy on a heavy likely remains a guilty pleasure of immigration enforcement officers when their authorities collide with a potentially violent reprobate.

Good luck, and adios amigo

 

[LoveShea1971]

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Hi - it sounds as though he has made a claim to Convention refugee status - using the words "landed in Canada 2017" confuses things because the author doesn't know that this is a legal term for becoming a PR. The title of this thread suggests that he's a claimant.

If so, the claim will have to wind its way along but could be hobbled if the CBSA is made aware of his criminal past and they produce a Danger Opinion (if applicable). A finger print check should reveal who he is, if he's using an assumed identity, however alerting them to his "stated" criminal record never hurts.

Danger Opinions are supposed to restrict the refugee determination, preventing consideration under A96, the CR standard, and elevating consideration to A97 which has a higher threshold for any positive decision. Still, it's a process open to appeals and eventually a PRRA in the event of a negative finding, but criminal cases get priority in both the CBSA and Immigration departments.

Where a person is in Canada will effect how long these things take, but if he's disguised any of his information, used a false identity or has other criminal acts or unresolved allegations, he could be a good candidate for arrest and detention although his release on some sort of bond or terms and conditions would be very likely. Earlier detentions are good to support future arrests.

My dated experience with enforcement processes and priorities tells me that the CBSA would love to hear more about this guy and maybe go out and push him around before tossing him in a cage, even if it would be temporary. He'd then be required to report routinely as they go about running his real information and discovering what other things he's done that Canada doesn't like. He's been here 3 years but this doesn't mean that he claimed to be a CR when he arrived, so I'd prepare a detailed snitch letter and send it in to the local CBSA and CC a few members of Parliament (for their edification and my own pleasure). The letter can be anonymous without losing the veracity of the content but it requires his name(s) date of birth, etc.

At the risk of editorializing here, pulling a heavy on a heavy likely remains a guilty pleasure of immigration enforcement officers when their authorities collide with a potentially violent reprobate.

Good luck, and adios amigo

His wife was having so many problems with him and was listed as his sponsor after they married but when his lawyer found out they were having so many problems and going to seperate he applied for refugee status instead of going through with the sponsorship. The lawyer is just as crooked as this man.

 

[LoveShea1971]

Agreed that many of these issues aren't immigration issues or CRA issues. She needs to hire a family lawyer to help her through the divorce process to protect her assets (i.e. house) and determine if and how much she might receive from support payments.

Is he a permanent resident? Or does he just have temporary worker status in Canada? It's not that clear from your post.

It's a bit interesting that he managed to get to Canada with all of those convictions. Is he here under a TRP?

He currently has temporary refugee and is applying for PR. His work permit is renewed yearly. His girlfriend in Mexico is a lawyer (so he says) with many connections and cash gets a lot done there. He renewed his expired Mexican drivers license from Canada and other supporting documents with her help.

 

[LoveShea1971]

Maybe he managed to get here on a TRP. Would be surprising but anything is possible.

don't have the answer to that

 

[scylla]

He currently has temporary refugee and is applying for PR. His work permit is renewed yearly. His girlfriend in Mexico is a lawyer (so he says) with many connections and cash gets a lot done there. He renewed his expired Mexican drivers license from Canada and other supporting documents with her help.

It's still not really clear what phase of the process he is in. Either he is still waiting to be accepted as a protected person - or he has already been accepted as a protected person and is now waiting for his PR application to be processed.

Regardless, your friend can certainly report him to CBSA if there are details she thinks they don't have. Details below:

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/protect-fraud/report-fraud.html

 

[LoveShea1971]

It's still not really clear what phase of the process he is in. Either he is still waiting to be accepted as a protected person - or he has already been accepted as a protected person and is now waiting for his PR application to be processed.

Regardless, your friend can certainly report him to CBSA if there are details she thinks they don't have. Details below:

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/protect-fraud/report-fraud.html

he just recieved his temporary refugee status and has 90 days to apply for PR and that is what he's currently doing. He recently applied to renew his work permit.

 

[scylla]

he just recieved his temporary refugee status and has 90 days to apply for PR and that is what he's currently doing. He recently applied to renew his work permit.

So in that case he has protected status and has been accepted as a refugee. You're right, applying for PR is next. This step generally takes 1-2 years.

 

[LoveShea1971]

So in that case he has protected status and has been accepted as a refugee. You're right, applying for PR is next. This step generally takes 1-2 years.

does that mean he can't be deported now?