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legalfalcon

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App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
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12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
I don't think anyone has claimed their old biometrics are used. The claim is that those information are populated in the application and that is because the UCIs get linked...
A few people made flights of fantasy based on old biometric info being used to populate the biometrics fields in some applications. Hence the “claims”
IRCC has already clarified this issue:


Who needs to give their fingerprints and photo (biometrics)

Normally, you need to give biometrics if you apply for
  • a visitor visa
  • a work or study permit (excluding US nationals)
  • permanent residence
  • refugee or asylum status
  • an extension of your stay in Canada, known as a visitor record (as of December 3, 2019)
  • a work or study permit extension (as of December 3, 2019)

How often you need to give your fingerprints and photo
Visitor visa, study and work permit applicants
You only need to give your biometrics once every 10 years. You don’t need to give your biometrics again until the 10-year period expires.

If you gave biometrics in the past as part of an application for a visitor visa, work or study permit and they’re still valid, you don’t need to give them again.

Find out if your biometrics are still valid and when they expire by using the Check Status Tool.

Permanent residence applicants
You’ll need to give your biometrics and pay the fee each time you apply, even if you gave your biometrics in the past for another application.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/campaigns/biometrics/facts.html
 
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Steffans

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Just a rhetorical question: Why can't Service Canada start collecting biometrics? All they need to do is to space out appointments, follow guidelines and everyone will be fine.
I do understand that diffent provinces are affected by COVID in different magnitude.

I am in one of the western provinces, we have less than 40 active cases for the whole province.. Why can't capturing start there or at less populated places?

This is just me venting in my mind but things can actually be reduced. If something can be started ASAP.

Imagine all the applications right from March and every month.. New ITAs are given.. Imagine the huge number of people waiting to go in for just biometrics???
It is well..
 

indianstudent96

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May 22, 2017
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Ontario, Canada
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CPC Sydney
NOC Code......
2281
App. Filed.......
27-06-2020
Doc's Request.
18-08-2020
AOR Received.
27-06-2020
Med's Done....
16-04-2020
Just a rhetorical question: Why can't Service Canada start collecting biometrics? All they need to do is to space out appointments, follow guidelines and everyone will be fine.
I do understand that diffent provinces are affected by COVID in different magnitude.

I am in one of the western provinces, we have less than 40 active cases for the whole province.. Why can't capturing start there or at less populated places?

This is just me venting in my mind but things can actually be reduced. If something can be started ASAP.

Imagine all the applications right from March and every month.. New ITAs are given.. Imagine the huge number of people waiting to go in for just biometrics???
It is well..
I have the same question and I am sure there are others wondering the same.

We are the least of their concerns now. The federal government is back to virtue signalling and helping inland PR applicants is not gonna get them any good public relations short term. What they are doing now is they are creating a huge group of people who might soon become citizens and vote against them. In other words, they are shooting themselves in foot by not taking any responsibility.

Ironically, the current minister responsible for Service Canada was the immigration minister before Marco Mendicino and the lack of co-operation is appalling. Cases are starting to go up here in Ontario again and it could be the beginning of the second wave.

I really do feel like they have wasted a good opening to roll out biometric services.
 

Agent47s

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Sep 6, 2020
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newbie here..sorry for joining the party late. Below is the timeline and some questions. It'd be great if someone could help.

FSW-Outland

AOR - June 1
Request letter for additional fees for the difference - June 24
Additional fees paid - June 26
MEP - Aug 6
BIL - Aug 31 (Pending Biometrics since VACs are closed in India until further notice, so it will be a while)

1. I see that most people have BIL on the same day that they received MEP or around the same time, ours came almost after 25 days. Is that normal?

2. My progress bar reads 53% complete and I'm planning to order GCMS notes to see what's going on with my application. Is this a right time to order one or should I wait for a few more weeks for the GCMS notes to have more conclusive updates?

Thanks!
 
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Nousernamesadface

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I have the same question and I am sure there are others wondering the same.

We are the least of their concerns now. The federal government is back to virtue signalling and helping inland PR applicants is not gonna get them any good public relations short term. What they are doing now is they are creating a huge group of people who might soon become citizens and vote against them. In other words, they are shooting themselves in foot by not taking any responsibility.

Ironically, the current minister responsible for Service Canada was the immigration minister before Marco Mendicino and the lack of co-operation is appalling. Cases are starting to go up here in Ontario again and it could be the beginning of the second wave.

I really do feel like they have wasted a good opening to roll out biometric services.
They should just exempt inland applicants, exactly like how it was before December of 2019.
 

indianstudent96

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May 22, 2017
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Ontario, Canada
Category........
CEC
Visa Office......
CPC Sydney
NOC Code......
2281
App. Filed.......
27-06-2020
Doc's Request.
18-08-2020
AOR Received.
27-06-2020
Med's Done....
16-04-2020
They should just exempt inland applicants, exactly like how it was before December of 2019.
Exactly. The more and more you look at this, it seems like they are going to be forced to waive it for people who already got their BIL.

They will probably waive the biometrics for inland PR applicants when they re-open Service Canada for biometrics collection, so backlog won’t be an issue for people who will be receiving ITAs soon.
 

Rubyred

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Apr 6, 2020
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No, it only indicates that you submitted the requested document. The MyCIC status doe snot indicate or let you know if you have passed eligibility. Send a webform, call IRCC, or see your gCMS notes to get the exact status on eligibility.

Sorry for being a bit daft here. So does this mean that
1. under Review of Eligibility in MY CIC it will continue to say 'We are reviewing whether you meet the eligibility requirements.' even though you may have already passed the eligibility?

2. the only way to know in advance if we have passed eligibility is through what legalfalcon has suggested - send a webform, call IRCC, GCMS notes?

Thank you and have a great weekend
 

srin881

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Jul 23, 2019
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Hi everyone,Today my status has been changed to submitted.Till tomorrow it was your action is required since I am also waiting to give biometrics.AOR 18th June,Medicals passed,CEC inland.Has this happened to anyone?
 

Nousernamesadface

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May 15, 2019
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Hi everyone,Today my status has been changed to submitted.Till tomorrow it was your action is required since I am also waiting to give biometrics.AOR 18th June,Medicals passed,CEC inland.Has this happened to anyone?
I guess it's been a month since your BIL? I think they have designed the system such that it stops asking after one month...
 
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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Just a rhetorical question: Why can't Service Canada start collecting biometrics? All they need to do is to space out appointments, follow guidelines and everyone will be fine.
I do understand that diffent provinces are affected by COVID in different magnitude.

I am in one of the western provinces, we have less than 40 active cases for the whole province.. Why can't capturing start there or at less populated places?

This is just me venting in my mind but things can actually be reduced. If something can be started ASAP.

Imagine all the applications right from March and every month.. New ITAs are given.. Imagine the huge number of people waiting to go in for just biometrics???
It is well..
Service Canada is a federal agency and any all directives for it are issued from Ottawa for pan Canada centres. Apart from biometrics, Service Canada provides a load of other services, all of which have been disrupted.
Sorry for being a bit daft here. So does this mean that
1. under Review of Eligibility in MY CIC it will continue to say 'We are reviewing whether you meet the eligibility requirements.' even though you may have already passed the eligibility?

2. the only way to know in advance if we have passed eligibility is through what legalfalcon has suggested - send a webform, call IRCC, GCMS notes?

Thank you and have a great weekend
1. Yes, and it will stay like this until your COPR is generated and visa is issued.

2. Yes.
 
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shamz

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Dec 25, 2014
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Hi everyone,Today my status has been changed to submitted.Till tomorrow it was your action is required since I am also waiting to give biometrics.AOR 18th June,Medicals passed,CEC inland.Has this happened to anyone?
Yes I am in the same exact boat as you with only difference being in AOR ( June 20 )
 
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