Because there are safety protocols you can take with paper applications to reduce risk. Additionally, the family class PR application is so complex that any online system WI be massive, take a long time, and need to be incredibly customized.
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I think this is ultimately the issue.
A lack of communication regarding family sponsorship, even in newsletter form, regarding how people are working on things, what their priorities are and regular updates, is what is causing concern, frustration, anxiety for applicants, regardless of application stream. There has been no news / publication about how family applicants in various stages are being worked through, as far as I can see.
Of course, because of COVID, most people would also expect government workers to be put on emergency response strategies, whether financial, public health etc.
But key issue for all governments is clarity of communications for all departments. If there was regular communications, perhaps individuals wouldn't 'clog up' workers' time so much with the IRCC web chat and they could actually get on with processing.
Also, paper applications - my worry is these will actually get lost in the shuffle, as 'too difficult' compared to many other streams being electronic. And for those of us without AOR1, my worry is that it will get returned as 'incomplete' 'x' bazillion months from now, through issues outside of anyone's control. I just hope that there is leniency on this and people get contacted electronically to submit anything missing by a certain time before AOR1, if an issue.
Added: And if there are 7,000 family class applications a month, by looking at the spreadsheet, that has halved monthly since COVID.
The spreadsheet is nowhere representative of family class applications. You can't judge the volume of applications based on a spreadsheet that a tiny proportion of people actually manage to find and then bother to update.
It's kind of like saying a poll on a Facebook site that has 50 fans is representative of the population of Canada.
The 100 or so people per month on spreadsheet does paint a picture of whats happening on the large scale. If zero outland people on spreadsheet got aor, it can be estimated that zero in canada got aor..back when things were moving it was easy to spot trends in timelines.
I'm not going to argue this too much, but you cannot estimate from a small, self-selected sample across a larger population. Again, you're suggesting that a tiny internet poll can be representative of an entire population. Just not how statistics work.
From the inland spreadsheet, there were numerous examples of progress reported here that were not updated on the spreadsheet for weeks.
They have been doing this for some time. Scanning applications, yes. Making the application online? When you have hundreds of country-specific requirements plus substantial general requirements, it's a nightmare to make this application online only.
As a computer scientist, I do not agree with what you have just said. With the cloud, you don’t need to setup the physical infrastructure anymore, nor do you have to worry about the load. Even the current platform employed for online VISA applications can be adapted for spouse applications. I think it’s just a matter of legacy issues and, of course, staff training.
hmm that's how actually Sample Data Size work, simple Statistics you know.
If no one here got AOR since March 13th, then I am 100% sure they have not send out any AORs.
Also, I know 2 immigration agents who said that their applicants has not received AORs either.
Sample sizes require random populations, not self-selected populations. In any event, my knowledge of statistics isn't the issue here.
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I agree with you that's how statistics work. The trends can be calculated with the sample size we have in the spreadsheet.
The ratio of people entering data in spreadsheets vs the total number of apps submitted overall would remain constant.
If there were 7000 entries in the spreadsheet pre-covid, then we could assume that there were 2x or 3x times application submitted in total, if the number of entries has gone down, then the total number of apps would've gone down as well.
There are protests today in Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa, Edmonton and Vancouver. IRCC ignoring spousal applications is unbearable now specially when everything is back to normal gradually since June 2020. At least IRCC should be transparent enough to explain what is happening and why they are not working on spousal applications. As in contrary they say they are still processing as much as possible but even with that we should have seen some movement for late Feb. and March applicants at least by now. For 5 months now the reply anyone receive when inquiring about apps status is that they are still working on Feb. apps. Com'on if this was the case we would have seen some movement unless in Feb. they have received zillion apps to finish processing.
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