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Deck officers, water transport (NOC 2273)

Ach Kay

Newbie
Jul 9, 2018
7
0
hey there,I'm also a marine engineer holding class 4 lisence in india.
can you please explain the whole process to go about it.I want to settle in canada with my wife who is an M.tech in CSE.
I have a NOC 2274,but code is B,where as I have done mechanical Btech which falls under Code A,
Now I'm confused how to go about is
Asha!??? Ki bneya fer?!
 

Ronits

Newbie
Aug 27, 2019
1
0
I have diploma in nautical science (1 year) after that i didnt completed my bsc degree due to some problems.what equivalency i will get for WES canada? Please reply
TIA
 

tyagifever

Star Member
Oct 23, 2018
105
5
Hi can_indian,

Oh, it is comforting to hear all the reply. Thanks a lot for the kind & elaborated one, I am also applying from India.

Yea, I am done with IELTS (CLB9+ in all modules), ECA from WES, 6 years of foreign work experience, enough liquidity in Bank Accounts & CRS score is 432. That's really good score nowadays, you will probably get an ITA soon.
Presently I am the phase of submitting my EE profile, therefore these doubts rose. I recommend you get the experience letter first before submitting your EE, that way you can fill out forms properly because you do have distinctive work experience.

E) Due to my job (3 months continuous work, 84 hours per week - 3 months off), In work experience letter - what do I ask my crewing-agency to write me as full-time or part-time employee, of course, they would be apprehensive of writing 'full-time'. Actual term would be to write 'contractual employee', will this fall under part-time?... or what do you suggest?

As per CIC,
Full Time
30 hours/week for 12 months = 1 year full time (1,560 hours)

Part time
15 hours/week for 24 months = 1 year full time (1,560 hours)
OR
30 hours/week for 12 months at more than one job = 1 year full time (1,560 hours)


Based on that, your 6 years of seasonal/ contractual work experience is equal to 3 years of full time work experience.
Having said that, I would like to point out that there have been some special cases where cic has calculated work experience differently and given more points. I strongly recommend you to create another thread on this forum about your work experience calculation, some forum users will be able to help/shed light on that.

you may request HR to write seasonal in your experience letter.

F) Could you please also shed some light on the following - While filling EE profile, there is a column which asks- 'How many Canadian dollars are you going to bring with you in Canada', so should I actually put that amount only, which I will carry with me to Canada or Should I put the maximum liquidity I have (which is quite higher that required), just to make profile look better?

For Fund requirements, check out below thread.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/funds.asp

Since you have more than enough, it is your choice how much you want to write there as long as it is more than minimum requirement.

For example : you are married and have one kid than minimum fund requirement for you would be CAD$ 18,617. You can write down round up amount say CAD$ 19,000.
Hi DeeCee,

Hope you have already applied for your PR and probably received it. I'm in a similar position as you, I have sailed as a deck cadet for one year (6 months on two separate vessels) and confused about how to write the work experience letter for my PR. I was also working for 84 hours/week. Please help.
For context - I have completed a post-grad program in Canada and have enough CRS points.

Thank you,
Abhishek
 

tyagifever

Star Member
Oct 23, 2018
105
5
Hello hi @DC.CA
I am a deck officer to with 3 yr of experince and 26yrs old and i have a band score of 7 7 7 8 and i would like to apply for pr but i needed help with my experience calculation. is my experience=my seatime and can u plz pm me so i can clarify my doubts thank you.
hi were you able to get any information about work experience letter? Kindly share
 

tyagifever

Star Member
Oct 23, 2018
105
5
Can anyone help me with the work ex letter? I have sailed as a deck cadet in the past with 12 months seatime. Won't my company be reluctant in writing "permanent full-time employee" in the letter? If yes, any advise about how I can convince them?

Any suggestions would be much appreciated
 

Johnnextdoor

Star Member
Aug 19, 2018
60
5
Hi ,I m marine engineer for last 2 years
I am a permanent employee , having spend 4 months at sea and 2 months at home .
I get pay round the year same salary at home too.
How to calculate work experience then?

Hi I'm in the same boat as you right now. How has things worked for you so far? I have the exact same query as you. Would really appreciate if you could kindly provide me with some guidance on the same.

Have paid to submit my profile via WWICS delhi
I have 1 year pre sea GME diploma and 4 year Btech ME
 

XIANGXIANG

Newbie
May 14, 2020
3
0
Hey DC.CA and guys
Good morning
i used the NOC 2274 as the for foreigner experience and received ITA recently.

I’m confused how to calculate the working hours . I was working from August 1,2009 to May 9,2013 as a fourth engineer with 8months on boards and 4 month vacation pay per year. I was working for a Chinese shipowner as a full time workers . Not contracted. Is my working hours enough for 3years experience ?

is any group chat or something like that please let me in

thanks in advance

Xiang
 

Johnnextdoor

Star Member
Aug 19, 2018
60
5
Hey DC.CA and guys
Good morning
i used the NOC 2274 as the for foreigner experience and received ITA recently.

I’m confused how to calculate the working hours . I was working from August 1,2009 to May 9,2013 as a fourth engineer with 8months on boards and 4 month vacation pay per year. I was working for a Chinese shipowner as a full time workers . Not contracted. Is my working hours enough for 3years experience ?

is any group chat or something like that please let me in

thanks in advance

Xiang
Hi XiangXiang..
Well, I guess you would stand a better chance at qualifying for the FSW program as far as eligibility is concerned. as you were getting paid around the year. I would suggest that you include your entire employment time (sailing + vacation) and consider it as continuous three years of work experience under that particular NOC code. I have currently submitted my profile and am awaiting updates, so I cannot say for sure if it would work, but one thing that I'm sure of is that you would stand a better chance at being granted a PR considering your continuous payment, as that ascertains the condition of continuous employment. I know of someone as your case, who has been granted a PR and that's why I feel so.
There is a telegram group that I'm a part of, dedicated to our NOC codes applicants, either awaiting or granted. Do drop your number so that I can have you added.
 

XIANGXIANG

Newbie
May 14, 2020
3
0
Hi XiangXiang..
Well, I guess you would stand a better chance at qualifying for the FSW program as far as eligibility is concerned. as you were getting paid around the year. I would suggest that you include your entire employment time (sailing + vacation) and consider it as continuous three years of work experience under that particular NOC code. I have currently submitted my profile and am awaiting updates, so I cannot say for sure if it would work, but one thing that I'm sure of is that you would stand a better chance at being granted a PR considering your continuous payment, as that ascertains the condition of continuous employment. I know of someone as your case, who has been granted a PR and that's why I feel so.
There is a telegram group that I'm a part of, dedicated to our NOC codes applicants, either awaiting or granted. Do drop your number so that I can have you added.
Thank you very much actually I have 2 years Canada experience and got ITA on May 1 2020 by CEC. My number is +1 705 770 8170 . Thanks again for your reply. Really appreciated
 

gabbar5467

Newbie
Jul 14, 2020
1
0
hello this is vikram singh from india...
is it possible to apply for work permit or express entry if i have continuous 12 months onboard experience... ??
if yes what documemts required?
if no , please advise the visas or way i can apply for?

thanks and regards.
 

Johnnextdoor

Star Member
Aug 19, 2018
60
5
hello this is vikram singh from india...
is it possible to apply for work permit or express entry if i have continuous 12 months onboard experience... ??
if yes what documemts required?
if no , please advise the visas or way i can apply for?

thanks and regards.
Hi Vikram!
If you have 12 years' experience onboard any vessel, you are very lucky, as it satisfies the criteria. You qualify for the express entry draw throught the FSW program. Have you done your IELTS and WES evaluations yet?
 

arav8891

Newbie
Mar 6, 2019
6
1
35
India
Good day all,

Hello there. Hope you are all doing well. I am a seafarer, currently sailing as a second mate. I wish to raise certain queries regarding the filing of eAPR. Me and wife received our ITA recently and are currently in the process of filling out all the forms. In our case my wife is the primary applicant as she is already in Canada on a work permit and we are applying under the Canadian Experience Class. We managed to get an ITA without me having to give an English language tests or a WES assessment.

My query now is regarding the filling of the Personal Activities and Travel History sections in the application. I have been in the same shipping company since my trainee days. So under the personal activities should I mention each time I boarded a ship as one activity and show the time spent after leaving the ship as unemployed or should I show each rank that I have worked as, as one activity.
Next under travel history, how do i show an explanation for all the stamps on my passport. I have done about 9 contracts in all with my passport having about 30 stamped pages. Some port of calls result in the passport being stamped whereas some do not. I am extremely confused as to what data to put into these sections. And I do not want to make any mistakes which might result in IRCC thinking that it is a misrepresentation. Hope someone can shed some light on these issues or at least connect me with someone who can. There isn't much information out there regarding seafarers. There is some info regarding CRS scores and how to improve them for seafarers but there isn't much help regarding the application forms.

Regards,
Arav
 

Johnnextdoor

Star Member
Aug 19, 2018
60
5
Good day all,

Hello there. Hope you are all doing well. I am a seafarer, currently sailing as a second mate. I wish to raise certain queries regarding the filing of eAPR. Me and wife received our ITA recently and are currently in the process of filling out all the forms. In our case my wife is the primary applicant as she is already in Canada on a work permit and we are applying under the Canadian Experience Class. We managed to get an ITA without me having to give an English language tests or a WES assessment.

My query now is regarding the filling of the Personal Activities and Travel History sections in the application. I have been in the same shipping company since my trainee days. So under the personal activities should I mention each time I boarded a ship as one activity and show the time spent after leaving the ship as unemployed or should I show each rank that I have worked as, as one activity.
Next under travel history, how do i show an explanation for all the stamps on my passport. I have done about 9 contracts in all with my passport having about 30 stamped pages. Some port of calls result in the passport being stamped whereas some do not. I am extremely confused as to what data to put into these sections. And I do not want to make any mistakes which might result in IRCC thinking that it is a misrepresentation. Hope someone can shed some light on these issues or at least connect me with someone who can. There isn't much information out there regarding seafarers. There is some info regarding CRS scores and how to improve them for seafarers but there isn't much help regarding the application forms.

Regards,
Arav
Hey Aruv,
Congratulations on your ITA.
1. Regarding the personal history, I believe you would have to mention every detail of your past activities, including trips abroad, exams, sign on sign offs, company change etc. I'd suggest be as explicit and detailed as you can as that would give them more clarity. To back them up you can attach letter of explanations just to give more clarity if you wish.
2. For travel history one usually explains every stamp on their PP. Myself, and a few others I know, have prepared a detailed table with columns as date in/ out, reason for visit, pg no..of stamp.on PP, explaining the stamps on our respective pp including the airports we're checking in/out in transits and the stamps we receive by immigration officers onboard at anchorage. Basically you would have to cover each stamp, however as you've mentioned there may be few countries where you might have entered which don't reveal their stamps so you can skip those, but make sure you mention Australia, US, and Canada if you've even passed through as I've heard they have tie ups with security officers there.
Be very careful and avoid making mistakes.
 

arav8891

Newbie
Mar 6, 2019
6
1
35
India
Hey Aruv,
Congratulations on your ITA.
1. Regarding the personal history, I believe you would have to mention every detail of your past activities, including trips abroad, exams, sign on sign offs, company change etc. I'd suggest be as explicit and detailed as you can as that would give them more clarity. To back them up you can attach letter of explanations just to give more clarity if you wish.
2. For travel history one usually explains every stamp on their PP. Myself, and a few others I know, have prepared a detailed table with columns as date in/ out, reason for visit, pg no..of stamp.on PP, explaining the stamps on our respective pp including the airports we're checking in/out in transits and the stamps we receive by immigration officers onboard at anchorage. Basically you would have to cover each stamp, however as you've mentioned there may be few countries where you might have entered which don't reveal their stamps so you can skip those, but make sure you mention Australia, US, and Canada if you've even passed through as I've heard they have tie ups with security officers there.
Be very careful and avoid making mistakes.
If you wish, I can have you added in a telegram group a few of us seafarers aspiring immigration have made. Some guys are very resourceful and will guide you. Also there's a group on Fb called express entry with legal falcon, you can put your queries up there and tag Manmeet Rai. He will definitely respond with his expertise advise in some hrs. I wish you all the very best.
Drop your number down here if you wish to be added to the telegram group, I'll notify you after adding you so that you can delete your no. on this thread there after.
Hello John,

Thanks for that reply. It cleared a lot of my doubts. I will compile all this data.
 
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