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nri7777

Hero Member
Nov 2, 2019
286
86
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
0121
Doc's Request.
NA
Nomination.....
NA
AOR Received.
23-12-2019
Heartiest thanks! Now it's clear beyond doubt. Best part: "Agent wont be notified as well ". Actually my representative has discouraged me regarding raising a webform before 6months.
never trust your agent/ representative blindly, you can go ahead and raise a webform and enter your own email address, it wont slow or expedite your application. Also don't forget to share the reply with us. :D
 
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nri7777

Hero Member
Nov 2, 2019
286
86
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
0121
Doc's Request.
NA
Nomination.....
NA
AOR Received.
23-12-2019
1st webform reply (4 Mar):

We verified the information on file and can confirm that:

  • The background verifications have not been initiated.
  • Your application is currently being processed at the Case Processing Centre (CPC-O) in Ottawa, Ontario.

2nd webform reply (23 Apr):

You will find below useful information that we hope will help understand the process and current status of your application for permanent residence:

  • The eligibility review is valid.
  • The security background verification has not been initiated.
  • The criminal background verification has not been initiated.
Furthermore, we verified the information you provided and can confirm that your file is currently located at the Case Processing Centre - Ottawa, Ontario.

and with the help of GCMS I could see that the eligibility is met but everything else is pending. :oops::oops: anyone with the same status?

aor- 23Dec fsw(O)
 

Niharika99

Newbie
May 7, 2020
6
2
never trust your agent/ representative blindly, you can go ahead and raise a webform and enter your own email address, it wont slow or expedite your application. Also don't forget to share the reply with us. :D
Thank you indeed! Yup I'll share the webform reply.
 
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Renalpe

Star Member
Nov 10, 2019
140
70
Philippines
Guys i just want to ask. We get a little bit portion of our POF due to an emergency illness of a family member. My questions are:

1. will the Canada immigration ask again for bank certificate post AOR?

2. Are they going to call the bank during the background check?

3. Is there a possiblity that we can be rejected?

We plan to return the money the soonest. Our AOR is December 28, 2020, still waiting for MEP and BIL.

Thanks for the answer.
I also want to ask, do we need to present the exact POF declared on AOR when we land on CANADA, just in case we are lucky given the PPR?
 

saveslife10

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Apr 1, 2019
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I also want to ask, do we need to present the exact POF declared on AOR when we land on CANADA, just in case we are lucky given the PPR?
As what I have read on many forums, you need to have the documents of POF depending on the number of family members as the Immigration officers might do the random check, at least you're prepared..
 
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Renalpe

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Nov 10, 2019
140
70
Philippines
As what I have read on many forums, you need to have the documents of POF depending on the number of family members as the Immigration officers might do the random check, at least you're prepared..
No i mean, you presented POF exceeding the minimum amount, but when you land can you present the minimum only? For example. the minimum is 15K , you submitted POF of 17K, then when you land, can you only present the 15k? thanks!
 

MiniArora

Star Member
Mar 17, 2019
129
10
Hi
To all who managed to call IRCC from outside canada, kindly help.
I downloaded text app a d it issued me a US number. It says that I can call Canada and US using that number. Still when I dial IRCC customer care number, it juts keeps ringing. Can anyone assist ?
Thanking in advance
 

vis.sneha

Hero Member
Sep 17, 2019
273
97
NOC Code......
1221
Nomination.....
05-11-2019
AOR Received.
27-12-2019
Med's Done....
20-01-2020
Heartiest thanks! Now it's clear beyond doubt. Best part: "Agent wont be notified as well ". Actually my representative has discouraged me regarding raising a webform before 6months.
yea.. my agent too. I was too curious n impatient. So did it anyways.
 

Lithin

Star Member
Jul 1, 2018
76
29
Toronto
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
AOR Received.
23-12-2019
Hi All,

Just want to update the latest updates on our application.
We got the atip notes for my girlfriend's application which was requested on April 12th, and also got the response to web form raised on 5th May.

AOR: 23rd December 2019
Program: FSW - O
Webform Response
  • Your application currently meets the eligibility requirementsunder the immigration program for which you have applied,,
    • you may be contacted via your account if additional information is needed.
· The security background verification has not been initiated.
. The criminal background verification has not been initiated.

GCMS Notes
Created Date: 2020/01/30
Office: Centralized Intake Office
A11.2 - CASE PROCESSING AGENT: Lock-in Date: 2019-12-23

Having analyzed this application based on the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file, I make the following recommendation.

MI3 A11.2:

Met R75: FSW MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS - Met R76: SELECTION CRITERIA - FSW POINTS: APPEARS TO MEET R76: SELECTION CRITERIA - FUNDS: APPEARS TO MEET FSW points total: 70 Ready to Finalize RPRF:

Complete Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) CRS Score at invitation to apply (ITA) 472 CRS points minimum score for round: 471 CRS score at application (APR): 472 Total CRS Points Assessed: 472 I have reviewed the following for CRS points: PA gained points as SINGLE at ITA and APR PA gained points for 3+ year(s) Foreign Work Experience with

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What is interesting to know is that the file was cleared by processing agent on January end itself, and was moved to Ottawa on February 19th. Hope its just waiting for final approval from officer. I don't see any red flags as of now. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
 

GG12345

Hero Member
Sep 27, 2019
492
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Hi All,

Just want to update the latest updates on our application.
We got the atip notes for my girlfriend's application which was requested on April 12th, and also got the response to web form raised on 5th May.

AOR: 23rd December 2019
Program: FSW - O
Webform Response
  • Your application currently meets the eligibility requirementsunder the immigration program for which you have applied,,
    • you may be contacted via your account if additional information is needed.
· The security background verification has not been initiated.
. The criminal background verification has not been initiated.

GCMS Notes
Created Date: 2020/01/30
Office: Centralized Intake Office
A11.2 - CASE PROCESSING AGENT: Lock-in Date: 2019-12-23

Having analyzed this application based on the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file, I make the following recommendation.

MI3 A11.2:

Met R75: FSW MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS - Met R76: SELECTION CRITERIA - FSW POINTS: APPEARS TO MEET R76: SELECTION CRITERIA - FUNDS: APPEARS TO MEET FSW points total: 70 Ready to Finalize RPRF:

Complete Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) CRS Score at invitation to apply (ITA) 472 CRS points minimum score for round: 471 CRS score at application (APR): 472 Total CRS Points Assessed: 472 I have reviewed the following for CRS points: PA gained points as SINGLE at ITA and APR PA gained points for 3+ year(s) Foreign Work Experience with

------------------------------------------------------------

What is interesting to know is that the file was cleared by processing agent on January end itself, and was moved to Ottawa on February 19th. Hope its just waiting for final approval from officer. I don't see any red flags as of now. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
CIO makes an initial review (kind of R10 completeness check) & then CPO review it thoroughly during Eligibility review phase.
 

Lithin

Star Member
Jul 1, 2018
76
29
Toronto
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
AOR Received.
23-12-2019
CIO makes an initial review (kind of R10 completeness check) & then CPO review it thoroughly during Eligibility review phase.
I don't think that is always true, as you can see at the CIO itself r75 and r76 was checked.
 

Lithin

Star Member
Jul 1, 2018
76
29
Toronto
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
AOR Received.
23-12-2019
I'm not sure what CPO is, do you mean CPC?. Maybe you wanna checkout the post by legalfalcon.

Starting a new thread for all those who intend or have received their AoR in DECEMBER 2019, or anticipate filing their application in DECEMBER 2019.

Sharing some useful info here:

• 6 months processing time


IRCC states that most applications are processed within 6 months or less. The 6 months processing time starts when your application meets the completeness check and NOT from the AoR date. The completeness check is the first stage of the application processing, and usually happens around when your medicals are passed. To know the exact date of the completeness check (R10), you will need to see your GCMS notes.

• Tracking your application

Unfortunately the only thing that you see is your MyCIC account are:

a. Review of eligibility - Will continue to be in progress until you receive the COPR
b. Review of medical results - Will change to the date when the Medicals are passed, usually 20-45 days post AOR.
c. Review of additional documents - Will show "We do not need additional documents," unless you receive any documents request and submit documents, when it will change.
d. Interview - For most this is remain as "[Y]ou do not need an interview. We will send you a message if this changes"
e. Biometrics - Will change when you are requested for biometrics and later when you have submitted the biometrics
f. Background check - Will change twice for most applicants. First it will change in the initial few weeks, and then go back to not applicable and later in the processing again change to, "we are processing your background check. We will send you a message if we need more information." This happens because criminality and security are both a part of BGC, and when these checks happen, the status changes. It will continue to be in progress the second time until you receive the COPR.
g. Final decision - This will remain the same until you receive the COPR.


There has been a growing trend of speculation where change of status on MyCIC has been attributed to eligibility being passed, etc. The whole NA, IP IP2 is speculation and has no bearing on determining which stage your application is at. While any change of status is a good sign, but merely relying on NA and IP is not the correct way.

Most applicants will find it irrelevant, as their applications will be processed and approved within the first 3-4 months. It is those who wait for more than 4 months, where things go crazy as they keep relying on NA, IP etc, and see no movement or progress. Many other are stuck on so called IP2, and the PPR never seems to come.

So put these speculative theories to rest. As per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, regulations and the ministeral instructions every application goes through the following stages:

R10 (Completeness check)
Medicals
Criminality
A11.2 Eligibility (The most important stage)
Security


To read more on each stage click here. While most applicants will not need to go this deep, but for those who have concerns about the application or it is taking too long should see which stage they are at. Also, the only way to determine the stage is by GCMS notes. To read more on GCMS notes, see the thread here.

• How to send a Case Specific Enquiry / Webform -

During the processing fo your application you may need to update your application and send additional documents. You can send updates and documents by webform (CSE) using the link - https://secure.cic.gc.ca/enquiries-renseignements/canada-case-cas-eng.aspx

When IRCC asks for any additional documents, and there is no upload slot in your MyCIC account, you will then once again have to send those documents via CSE using the link above.

You can also use this link to enquire about the status of your application if it exceeds 6 months.


• Visa Office

There has been an obsession of finding which visa office the application is at. Many threads on this forum start with explaining how to find your visa office. Let's get to the crux of it. Finding the visa office was very relevant pre- express entry. Even after the introduction of express entry in 2015, the same practice was followed which usually was for the paper based application, but that is no longer the case. Earlier all application followed the following trajectory:

Central Intake Office - Case Processing Centre - Local Visa Office

However, this has radically changed and for all express entry, all application follow the following:

1. Central Intake Office - The R10 (completeness check) is done at the Central Intake Office for all classes (FSW / PNP / CEC). Now even the criminality and medicals are done at CIO.

2. Case Processing Centre - These are 4 CPCs in Canada

CPC in Edmonton


CPC in Mississauga

The case processing centre in Mississauga processes applications to sponsor family members living in Canada and abroad.

CPC and CIO in Sydney


CPC in Ottawa

The case processing centre office in Ottawa (CPC-O) processes:

visitor visa (temporary resident visa) applications from within Canada for applicants with valid status (students or temporary foreign workers only).
permanent resident visa applications from the United States and Canada, after they have been received and deemed complete by CPC-M or CIO-S.


OSC in Ottawa
The Operations Support Centre (OSC) processes the following applications:

International Experience Canada work permits
In-Canada temporary resident applications submitted online
Verification of Status (VOS)
Replacement of valid temporary resident documents
Amendment of immigration documents and of valid temporary resident documents


Local Visa Office - This is the office where you will be asked to submit your passport after your application has been approved. Usually the consulate in your home country.

These days all application after starting at CIO (where R10 is met), either start the processing of eligibility at CIO itself, or move to CPC (wither Ottawa, Sydney, or Vegreville), or are straight sent to the LVO. The trend has been to complete most of the processing between CIO and CPC. Since the applications are electronically stored, there is no movement of physical files.

SUGGESTION - There is no point sending emails to ask which VO your application is at, as that process is moot since the eligibility can even start at CIO. So save yourself some time and efforts and also save the human resources of IRCC and stop sending emails. Even if you know which VO your application is at, it means nothing. Most applications which are processed within weeks and get PPR, are processed at CIO, and this is a much faster way.

A few applications will see eligibility passed, and then go to not started when the application is sent to the LVO. This is because the final review is done at the LVO, and the local agent may decide to conduct additional review, or identification before the eligibility is finally set to PASSED.


ECAS (Electronic Client Application Status) -


This was the most important tool pre EE to track an application and provided much more in-depth status than what MyCIC does. However, after the IRCC moved to the Global Case Management System (AKA GCMS) applications are no longer linked to ECAS.

So there is no point going there and checking.

• Letter of Explanation -

As the name suggests, the LoE is exact what it sounds like. It is not an idea for the documents and you do not have to explain each document you are submitting in your application.

The simple rules to follow for LoE -

  • Should be 1-2 pages in length. If you cannot explain it in 1-2 pages, it is probably not worth it.
  • Only use LoE to explain an issue. Eg. you could not obtain a reference letter on letterhead, could not meet PoF 6 months avg balance, seeking exemption or extension from PCC, or to explain something in your application which is not clear.
  • IRCC Agents do read LoE, but if its too long and not to the point, it loses its importance.
  • You DO NOT need an index for your documents. There are placeholders for the documents just put each document there and when it is stored on the IRCC system it is names and stored in an organized way.

SOME USEFUL LINKS:

**Guide to Landing and Setteling** - https://goo.gl/8vQzcd
**Proof of Funds** - https://goo.gl/mPejMN
**Medicals** - https://goo.gl/Xpmj5e
**Age and EE** - https://goo.gl/u8bqAU
**Stages of EE Application ** - https://goo.gl/AmdtgR
**GCMS Notes** - https://goo.gl/Jhk1Un
**Keep GCMS Notes Safe** - https://goo.gl/97J7AT
**Add Spouse to app** - https://goo.gl/ZgRP6C
**PNP and its obligations** - https://goo.gl/XUva1e

All the best!!


THESE ARE MY VIEWS AND YOU DO NOT HAVE TO SUBSCRIBE TO THESE. IF YOU HAVE CONTRARY VIEWS, JUST IGNORE IT AND DO WHAT YOUR CONSULTANT ASKED YOU, OR WHAT YOU DEEM FIT.
 
May 6, 2020
10
2
Got a GU in early April and called IRCC today. I got the following update;
Eligibility - Passed
Criminality - Passed
Security - Passed
Background Verification - Passed
Medical - Passed

AOR Dec 10, FSW-O
I am on the same boat as you. So what are the next steps?
 

mnsa24

Full Member
Oct 22, 2018
37
3
Hi everyone,

I just got a message from ircc regarding my eligibility status. it says "eligibility review is valid". If someone has encountered this message from them before, please let me know. I appreciate your help. Thank you.
What is your visa office