NOC code issue

[Goku]

I didnt receive PM yet! Can you please resend it.

I saw that program, and my ielts is good enough to apply. My employer will give me permanent job offer for sure. But I gain my work experience under open work permit, so Im not sure if I can apply.
Also, my WP expires on may 31st so I dont have time to do credential assessment

Why are You thinking of applying when You applied under CEC already?

Just to be on safer side. I meet every requirement expect arranged employment. Even if I don't include arrange employment I end up at 82 points. I am just not sure if I can apply because I am on open work permit. I haven't got LMO.

 

[ljiljka007]

Just to be on safer side. I meet every requirement expect arranged employment. Even if I don't include arrange employment I end up at 74 points. I am just not sure if I can apply because I am on open work permit. I haven't got LMO.

Lol me too, Im on Open work permit too

I'll go and see a laweyer in next few days, and ask for advice. Regarding to CEC, and FSW program too.

Where are You located, Goku?

 

[Hope1957]

No you cannot apply under Federal Skilled Worker program if you don't have a LMO, as you are currently on an open work permit. Your application will not be placed into processing.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-who-instructions.asp?expand=arranged#arranged

Look at your PNP option.

Jes: Can I apply under Federal Skilled Workers program even if I have open work permit?

 

[ljiljka007]

No you cannot apply under Federal Skilled Worker program if you don't have a LMO, as you are currently on an open work permit. Your application will not be placed into processing.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-who-instructions.asp?expand=arranged#arranged

Look at your PNP option.

I thought so. Thank You for the help

 

[Hope1957]

ljiljka007,

If you have more than 6 months left on your work permit, you can move to another province (if you are currently living in Ontario) and apply under their PNP. Bear in mind that it takes some time to receive your nomination and that you can apply for your BOWP only after you receive your nomination or AOR from CIO.

Alternatively, you can check with your employer if they will apply for LMO on your behalf. If so, then you can extend your stay and possibly apply for PR under PNP (under your current province).

 

[Hope1957]

Goku,

If the cap for your occupation that you choose for your FSW has not reached, then you can apply under FSW. However, note that this will close on April 30, 2014.

Just to be on safer side. I meet every requirement expect arranged employment. Even if I don't include arrange employment I end up at 74 points. I am just not sure if I can apply because I am on open work permit. I haven't got LMO.

 

[ljiljka007]

ljiljka007,

If you have more than 6 months left on your work permit, you can move to another province (if you are currently living in Ontario) and apply under their PNP. Bear in mind that it takes some time to receive your nomination and that you can apply for your BOWP only after you receive your nomination or AOR from CIO.

Alternatively, you can check with your employer if they will apply for LMO on your behalf. If so, then you can extend your stay and possibly apply for PR under PNP (under your current province).

My work permit expires on may 31st, so there's no time for moving. I guess I'll have to talk about my reference letter with my boss. Seems like my job is something between 1211 and 1215, since I work in trucking company. Im not sure If I can put both of those NOC codes in my reference letter.

 

[Goku]

Goku,

If the cap for your occupation that you choose for your FSW has not reached, then you can apply under FSW. However, note that this will close on April 30, 2014.

The only part thats confusing me is whether I need LMO or not? and another thing I heard is you can apply without LMO if you are under categories they introduced (specific occupations not every occupation in O,A & B). If its not mentioned then I need LMO. Can someone confirm this?

 

[jes_ON]

Yes I do, but situation is little bit diferent in my case since its a trucking company. So office staff are dispachers, and most of our emloyers are truck drivers. I am something like "bridge" between them.

Would NOC 7305 work for you?

http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/NOC/2011/ProfileKeyword.aspx?val=7&val1=7305&val11=trucking&val12=0&val13=0&val14=&val15=0&val16=0

 

[ljiljka007]

Would NOC 7305 work for you?

http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/NOC/2011/ProfileKeyword.aspx?val=7&val1=7305&val11=trucking&val12=0&val13=0&val14=&val15=0&val16=0

You are right, Jes! I was checking other codes, and 7305 is perfect NOC code for me. It explaines exactly what my job is.

I need to wait till may 6, and I'll apply under 7305 NOC class.

Thanks for the help!

 

[Gary27]

A little bit off topic but I see my NOC code is 2174 and my colleague's NOC is 2171. We are doing the same work and company applied it different NOC codes for us. Any idea how advantageous or disadvantageous is that?

 

[jes_ON]

You are right, Jes! I was checking other codes, and 7305 is perfect NOC code for me. It explaines exactly what my job is.

Great! Now the trick is to make what your manager wrote look a little bit more like the NOC. You can show your manager the NOC, but what he writes cannot be identical, it cannot be cut-and-paste. You can tailor it to your exact situation. But the supervisory duties do have to be made more clear. Good luck!

 

[Hope1957]

If you are on an open work permit, you require a LMO to apply under Federal skilled worker - arranged employment stream. There are no exceptions to this rule. However, if your occupation from your previous work experience falls under the 24 eligible occupations for FSW and the cap has not been filled, you can apply under FSW (not arranged employment stream).

Since you have already received your AOR for CEC, I don't see why you'd want to waste your time and money on applying under FSW. It takes longer and there are more documents to submit. Just wait for your CEC to work out.

The only part thats confusing me is whether I need LMO or not? and another thing I heard is you can apply without LMO if you are under categories they introduced (specific occupations not every occupation in O,A & B). If its not mentioned then I need LMO. Can someone confirm this?

 

[gta88]

Great! Now the trick is to make what your manager wrote look a little bit more like the NOC. You can show your manager the NOC, but what he writes cannot be identical, it cannot be cut-and-paste. You can tailor it to your exact situation. But the supervisory duties do have to be made more clear. Good luck!

@jes_ON
Hi there,
If a person owns and manages a transportation and logistics business since last 25 years back home, (42yrs old) could he immigrate under NOC 7305 (NOC B) on a LMIA based work permit? Currently, he is managing operations of around 20 truck drivers. Any loop hole or word of caution?

 

[jes_ON]

@jes_ON
Hi there,
If a person owns and manages a transportation and logistics business since last 25 years back home, (42yrs old) could he immigrate under NOC 7305 (NOC B) on a LMIA based work permit? Currently, he is managing operations of around 20 truck drivers. Any loop hole or word of caution?

It is not clear if you are asking about a work permit or to immigrate as a permanent resident (PR)?

Note that since the person in question owns the business, it will be considered self-employment. Self-employment counts as foreign work experience, but it can be more challenging to document for PR applications.