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Step-brother (not half-brother) and getting 15 points in express entry program

ehsan sadeghi

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Sep 9, 2019
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Can I get 15 points by my step brother in express entry program? It's not my half brother and we don't have a common parents. Actually we have a common step parent. I mean his father is my step-father and we have different mother.
It seems hat there is a discrepancy in below text:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/crs-tool.asp
10) Do you or your spouse or common law partner (if they will come with you to Canada) have at least one brother or sister living in Canada who is a citizen or permanent resident?

Note: to answer yes, the brother or sister must be:

  • 18 years old or older
  • related to you or your partner by blood, marriage, common-law partnership or adoption
  • have a parent in common with you or your partner
A brother or sister is related to you by:

  • blood (biological)
  • adoption
  • marriage (step-brother or step-sister)

There are discrepancy between "have a parents in common" and "step-brother or step-sister".
 
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Hi
Can I get 15 points by my step brother in express entry program? It's not my half brother and we don't have common parents. Actually we have a step parent. I mean his father is my step-father and we have different mother.
It seems hat there is a discrepancy in below text:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/crs-tool.asp
10) Do you or your spouse or common law partner (if they will come with you to Canada) have at least one brother or sister living in Canada who is a citizen or permanent resident?

Note: to answer yes, the brother or sister must be:

  • 18 years old or older
  • related to you or your partner by blood, marriage, common-law partnership or adoption
  • have a parent in common with you or your partner
A brother or sister is related to you by:

  • blood (biological)
  • adoption
  • marriage (step-brother or step-sister)

There are discrepancy between "have a parents in common" and "step-brother or step-sister".
There is no discrepancy. Step-brothers and step-sisters are accepted if you have one parent in common. Since you have no parents in common with your step-brother, you don't qualify for the 15 points.
 
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canuck_in_uk

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Hi
Can I get 15 points by my step brother in express entry program? It's not my half brother and we don't have a common parents. Actually we have a common step parent. I mean his father is my step-father and we have different mother.
It seems hat there is a discrepancy in below text:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/crs-tool.asp
10) Do you or your spouse or common law partner (if they will come with you to Canada) have at least one brother or sister living in Canada who is a citizen or permanent resident?

Note: to answer yes, the brother or sister must be:

  • 18 years old or older
  • related to you or your partner by blood, marriage, common-law partnership or adoption
  • have a parent in common with you or your partner
A brother or sister is related to you by:

  • blood (biological)
  • adoption
  • marriage (step-brother or step-sister)

There are discrepancy between "have a parents in common" and "step-brother or step-sister".
Interesting. It is impossible for step-siblings to have a biological parent in common. And yet, step-siblings are specifically listed, along with a relationship by marriage being accepted. This leads me to believe that IRCC is not just referring to a biological parent in common but also a parent in common by marriage, i.e. your step-father, and therefore you would qualify for the points.

That's just my opinion though.
 

mandiebraxton

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Step sibling relationship could either be through blood or through marriage as per the definition. The condition though is that the parents should be together at the time of application. I believe OP can claim points for the step-brother. In fact I’m helping by hubby’s step sister (through marriage and no biological connection) apply and claim the 15 points.
For proof of relationship, we provided marriage certificate between my hubby’s dad and his current wife ( sis’ mom), hubby’s birth cert ( with his dad’s name on it) and sis’ birth cert ( with her mom’s name on it). We will see how it goes.
 
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canuck_in_uk

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Step sibling relationship could either be through blood or through marriage as per the definition. The condition though is that the parents should be together at the time of application. I believe OP can claim points for the step-brother. In fact I’m helping by hubby’s step sister (through marriage and no biological connection) apply and claim the 15 points.
For proof of relationship, we provided marriage certificate between my hubby’s dad and his current wife ( sis’ mom), hubby’s birth cert ( with his dad’s name on it) and sis’ birth cert ( with her mom’s name on it). We will see how it goes.
Step-siblings can't be related by blood. If they are related by blood, they are either half-siblings or full siblings.

How far along is your sister-in-law's app?
 

mandiebraxton

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Step-siblings can't be related by blood. If they are related by blood, they are either half-siblings or full siblings.

How far along is your sister-in-law's app?
Right...I was trying to indicate sibling relationship could be either thru blood or marriage. We received OAR on Sep 3, so very early yet.
 

ehsan sadeghi

Newbie
Sep 9, 2019
7
1
Interesting. It is impossible for step-siblings to have a biological parent in common. And yet, step-siblings are specifically listed, along with a relationship by marriage being accepted. This leads me to believe that IRCC is not just referring to a biological parent in common but also a parent in common by marriage, i.e. your step-father, and therefore you would qualify for the points.

That's just my opinion though.
Thank you for your guidance. I agree with you and I think it should be OK. But I'm not sure. How can I make sure about it !!? It's critical point for me and without it I will not qualify for express entry program. Actually without it trying for express entry program is just wasting time for me.
 

ehsan sadeghi

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Sep 9, 2019
7
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There is no discrepancy. Step-brothers and step-sisters are accepted if you have one parent in common. Since you have no parents in common with your step-brother, you don't qualify for the 15 points.
Thank you for response. Actually it's my question. If we had a common father, he would be my half-brother (not step-brother).
 

ehsan sadeghi

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Sep 9, 2019
7
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Step sibling relationship could either be through blood or through marriage as per the definition. The condition though is that the parents should be together at the time of application. I believe OP can claim points for the step-brother. In fact I’m helping by hubby’s step sister (through marriage and no biological connection) apply and claim the 15 points.
For proof of relationship, we provided marriage certificate between my hubby’s dad and his current wife ( sis’ mom), hubby’s birth cert ( with his dad’s name on it) and sis’ birth cert ( with her mom’s name on it). We will see how it goes.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Please inform us about the result. Good luck.
 

canuck_in_uk

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Thank you for your guidance. I agree with you and I think it should be OK. But I'm not sure. How can I make sure about it !!? It's critical point for me and without it I will not qualify for express entry program. Actually without it trying for express entry program is just wasting time for me.
Most sure-fire way to find out is to just apply and see what they say.
 
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Hi
Can I get 15 points by my step brother in express entry program? It's not my half brother and we don't have a common parents. Actually we have a common step parent. I mean his father is my step-father and we have different mother.
It seems hat there is a discrepancy in below text:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/crs-tool.asp
10) Do you or your spouse or common law partner (if they will come with you to Canada) have at least one brother or sister living in Canada who is a citizen or permanent resident?

Note: to answer yes, the brother or sister must be:

  • 18 years old or older
  • related to you or your partner by blood, marriage, common-law partnership or adoption
  • have a parent in common with you or your partner
A brother or sister is related to you by:

  • blood (biological)
  • adoption
  • marriage (step-brother or step-sister)

There are discrepancy between "have a parents in common" and "step-brother or step-sister".
If your parents are married and his biological father is your step-father and currently married with your biological mother, you can claim points for him.
 
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ehsan sadeghi

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Sep 9, 2019
7
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If your parents are married and his biological father is your step-father and currently married with your biological mother, you can claim points for him.
Great. I'm really happy to hear that. Thanks a lot.
You mean you have a same condition and achieve 15 points for your steb-sibling (not half-sibling)?