December 2018 AOR - join here

[Let the fat lady sing]

Hello Fellow Candidates,
If there is anyone here who is a resident of UAE, then please help me with the below query.
My wife is the primary applicant along with me and our two small kids (5 & 2 years old). We are residents of UAE and are Citizens of India.
Our AoR is 23rd Jan 2019. Medicals passed on 1st March and Bio done on 3rd Mar. Since then No Updates.

Our elder son's UAE residency visa expires on 14th June and today I applied for his visa renewal which will be renewed in the next few days.
QUESTION - once i get the new visa stamped, do i need to inform IRCC about this? Because technically after 14th June, on record they will have an expired UAE residency visa, and whenever an officer looks into our file, will he require to see his renewed visa stamp ?

PLEASE HELP.

Best Regards

 

[RayBear]

Hello Fellow Candidates,
If there is anyone here who is a resident of UAE, then please help me with the below query.
My wife is the primary applicant along with me and our two small kids (5 & 2 years old). We are residents of UAE and are Citizens of India.
Our AoR is 23rd Jan 2019. Medicals passed on 1st March and Bio done on 3rd Mar. Since then No Updates.

Our elder son's UAE residency visa expires on 14th June and today I applied for his visa renewal which will be renewed in the next few days.
QUESTION - once i get the new visa stamped, do i need to inform IRCC about this? Because technically after 14th June, on record they will have an expired UAE residency visa, and whenever an officer looks into our file, will he require to see his renewed visa stamp ?

PLEASE HELP.

Best Regards

I would say you should provide them with the new visa by raising a CSF as you're right that this might raise questions otherwise.

 

[Shahanastar]

Hello Fellow Candidates,
If there is anyone here who is a resident of UAE, then please help me with the below query.
My wife is the primary applicant along with me and our two small kids (5 & 2 years old). We are residents of UAE and are Citizens of India.
Our AoR is 23rd Jan 2019. Medicals passed on 1st March and Bio done on 3rd Mar. Since then No Updates.

Our elder son's UAE residency visa expires on 14th June and today I applied for his visa renewal which will be renewed in the next few days.
QUESTION - once i get the new visa stamped, do i need to inform IRCC about this? Because technically after 14th June, on record they will have an expired UAE residency visa, and whenever an officer looks into our file, will he require to see his renewed visa stamp ?

PLEASE HELP.

Best Regards

There is no harm providing it although it was valid at the time of AOR.

 

[Maya1515]

IRCC is turning people into poets,
They need to know about this,

We should have all the haikus and poems here compiled and send everything to them.

 

[Saoussane]

Thank you for replying Maya,

Hey Saoussane,

Two fellows from Morocco had told me there was no change whatsoever in their profile status. They had always the format of an ip2 since medicals. Security check was processing from the beginning because of biometrics. So there was no way to know when this last step had started, unlike applicants from some other countries.
HOWEVER they had two of the said "ghost updates" before they got the PPR: the first one about 1 week before the second one, and PPR after 1 or 2 days from this second.
That's the pattern they experienced.

 

[Abhiancha]

Wow! that felt really awesome!
Just got an update - current status - IP2!

 

[Mallika S]

Joined the 180+ club officially. I just called up ircc and after being disconnected three times, got hold of an agent in the Fourth try. He was really nice but couldn't be of much help as he couldn't see anything against my profile.

Eligibility under process
All bg checks under process
Primary vo is Edmonton
The only new thing I knew today was my secondary vo which is Vancouver.
Both insanely fast VOs helping out each other.
I asked him if there were any red flags marked or any reviews required, and he said he couldn't see any of the intetnal notes.

He said there isn't anything mentioned but most of the case officers said many cases require more than six months and it's just a matter of time.
Out of curiosity i asked about the status using uci of wp extension and I was told it's still in process. I received my wp in hand last week. So I guess agents really have no idea what's going on in the background. Even after approval and issue i don't know how it's being told as in progress
Totally disappointed. The system is flawed and inefficient to the core. Nothing against them but I feel pain and anxiety when i see later aors receiving pprs and many of us still waiting in the dark. At least they should make it a bit transparent and let us know what is being done in the background. My application is still with Edmonton. I don't know when it will get to Vancouver and when i will get the slot for landing interview. There is a backlog for landing intetrview slots too.. ircc totally messed up my plans..

 

[KatherineNunes]

Wow! that felt really awesome!
Just got an update - current status - IP2!

@Abhiancha Congratulations....its good to see someone getting updates.

I am still waiting
AOR Dec 13
Background check not started
GCMS notes states all clear

 

[Abhiancha]

@Abhiancha Congratulations....its good to see someone getting updates.

I am still waiting
AOR Dec 13
Background check not started
GCMS notes states all clear

Thank you!. If notes are all clear, just like in my case - Its purely down to luck, where we are in the pile that is alloted to a specific review officer. It can come any day
All the best

 

[pavan23]

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Hello Fellow Candidates,
If there is anyone here who is a resident of UAE, then please help me with the below query.
My wife is the primary applicant along with me and our two small kids (5 & 2 years old). We are residents of UAE and are Citizens of India.
Our AoR is 23rd Jan 2019. Medicals passed on 1st March and Bio done on 3rd Mar. Since then No Updates.

Our elder son's UAE residency visa expires on 14th June and today I applied for his visa renewal which will be renewed in the next few days.
QUESTION - once i get the new visa stamped, do i need to inform IRCC about this? Because technically after 14th June, on record they will have an expired UAE residency visa, and whenever an officer looks into our file, will he require to see his renewed visa stamp ?

PLEASE HELP.

Best Regards

Hey,Yes you have to raise a CSE and inform them about the Visa update once you receive it

 

[Loyaltocanada]

Joined the 180+ club officially. I just called up ircc and after being disconnected three times, got hold of an agent in the Fourth try. He was really nice but couldn't be of much help as he couldn't see anything against my profile.

Eligibility under process
All bg checks under process
Primary vo is Edmonton
The only new thing I knew today was my secondary vo which is Vancouver.
Both insanely fast VOs helping out each other.
I asked him if there were any red flags marked or any reviews required, and he said he couldn't see any of the intetnal notes.

He said there isn't anything mentioned but most of the case officers said many cases require more than six months and it's just a matter of time.
Out of curiosity i asked about the status using uci of wp extension and I was told it's still in process. I received my wp in hand last week. So I guess agents really have no idea what's going on in the background. Even after approval and issue i don't know how it's being told as in progress
Totally disappointed. The system is flawed and inefficient to the core. Nothing against them but I feel pain and anxiety when i see later aors receiving pprs and many of us still waiting in the dark. At least they should make it a bit transparent and let us know what is being done in the background. My application is still with Edmonton. I don't know when it will get to Vancouver and when i will get the slot for landing interview. There is a backlog for landing intetrview slots too.. ircc totally messed up my plans..

Did they tell you any expected dates or bring forward date? Did they say anything about the delays in Edmonton and Vancouver?

 

[anas_alam]

Joined the 180+ club officially. I just called up ircc and after being disconnected three times, got hold of an agent in the Fourth try. He was really nice but couldn't be of much help as he couldn't see anything against my profile.

Eligibility under process
All bg checks under process
Primary vo is Edmonton
The only new thing I knew today was my secondary vo which is Vancouver.
Both insanely fast VOs helping out each other.
I asked him if there were any red flags marked or any reviews required, and he said he couldn't see any of the intetnal notes.

He said there isn't anything mentioned but most of the case officers said many cases require more than six months and it's just a matter of time.
Out of curiosity i asked about the status using uci of wp extension and I was told it's still in process. I received my wp in hand last week. So I guess agents really have no idea what's going on in the background. Even after approval and issue i don't know how it's being told as in progress
Totally disappointed. The system is flawed and inefficient to the core. Nothing against them but I feel pain and anxiety when i see later aors receiving pprs and many of us still waiting in the dark. At least they should make it a bit transparent and let us know what is being done in the background. My application is still with Edmonton. I don't know when it will get to Vancouver and when i will get the slot for landing interview. There is a backlog for landing intetrview slots too.. ircc totally messed up my plans..

Well A Time for Everything . . . and
Everything in its Time

 

[Mallika S]

Did they tell you any expected dates or bring forward date? Did they say anything about the delays in Edmonton and Vancouver?

Nope they didn't tell me any dates. Just that it will take longer than usual processing times.

 

[RayBear]

Did they tell you any expected dates or bring forward date? Did they say anything about the delays in Edmonton and Vancouver?

There is literally no one who has this information. Here or there. The best we can do here is estimate and hope.

 

[derkdsou]

Yes, in January I did find that there might be no correlation between an ETH and a prolonged processing based on the experience of candidates whose applications were either approved in 2018 or still pending beyond six months. But there were a number of things I didn't know then that I know now. Indeed, a number of candidates will be delayed due to The Great Backlog regardless of having an ETH or not, but there are ways in which IRCC treats the applications of candidates that have multiple PCCs and/or ETHs that leads me to believe the following:

1. IRCC/CBSA authenticate every single PCC with the issuing authority - PCCs are authenticated in batches and this explains why we observe a "PPR rain" from certain VOs.

2. Trivial as it sounds, IRCC/CBSA actually comb through your passport(s) to match your travel dates with entry and exit stamps and/or other data available to them from foreign governments. I used to think surely they don't have the time for that...maybe they randomly select, say, every 10th candidate for a thorough vetting - this is not the case! We have seen several cases of applicants here who received ADRs for not reporting something minute like the correct Schengen exit port or a trip they had not listed but for which they had stamps in their passport. Since it took me about 36 hours to compile my list (about 115 trips total), I imagine it would take an IRCC officer the same amount of time to independently reproduce my travel history and then corroborate that with what I submitted. I can't think of another explanation for how razor sharp IRCC have been when someone has missed a stamp or a trip.

3. IRCC/CBSA look at the candidate's overall travel profile to find suspicious patterns. I don't know what their algorithms are programmed to flag, but I'd be surprised if travel in unstable regions of the Middle East, Africa or Latin America are treated with particular joy.

4. CBSA also quizzes certain foreign governments to find out more about your travel there. Again, we can't have enough information on why they pick certain trips to investigate or how they arrive at their conclusions, but I imagine this is standard practice for a thorough vetting.

All of these factors add time to the usual processing sequence. I've realized that security cannot "start" without criminality having been passed, and eligibility won't be promoted to passed until at least the medicals and criminality have been passed.

I have found no particular evidence based on MyImmiTracker data that there is a bias toward candidates that are single or have multiple dependents. There is also no evidence pointing toward a bias for certain NOCs or candidates with higher CRS scores. Any biases we presume for countries of residence (such as the US) actually tie back to the background check process I have explained above. Because there is a high level of information sharing between the US and Canada, a candidate presently living in the US is looked at most favorably compared to any other region, and US residents are also likely approved faster because the FBI reauthenticates PCCs faster than Scotland Yard or the Indian Police, for example.

With the way MyImmiTracker is presently structured, we can't control for the number of PCCs or ETH because this information is not recorded - not only should we track the number of PCCs, we should also put down the names of the issuing countries and also the number of trips reported. We could then start to make some sense of the data.

8 days to go.
Apart from hibernating for couple of weeks. I don't see any other way to curb my anxiety or frustration levels.

@derkdsou
I remember a while back seeing your analysis on this specific topic of extensive travel history cases. Didn't you observe that there was actually no correlation with respect to that. Maybe, its just that these are some of the cases lying in the stack of a lazy officer waiting to get picked? The reason why i say that is, the % of unprocessed files crossing 6 months is still at an unprecedented high since they have started EE. May be we got in to this at an unfortunate time, where IRCC didn't have a clue on how to staff their offices as per the invites they are sending (Or it can be that they have budget issues in hiring more workers). Earlier the timelines used to be between 3 to 6 months (where people applied around a similar period used to get PPRs across a spread of 2 months), now it became 5 to 8 months (This i guess has been already brought up here multiple times, but our minds somehow cant go beyond that stupid irrelevant progress bar on our profiles)

That's the most positive way i can think of the current situation!

Yes, 4 PCCs and single applicant here! I'm kinda scared now. @Pura Vida has 5 PCCs! All of us with extensive travel history should assemble and see if it actually affects the processing time. While we're at it, I am also slightly worried that providing 11 LOEs (which were absolutely necessary, I kept them super short and precise, made an index for easy reading etc) might be another reason for the delay. Any on else with so many LOEs?

I was really hopeful I'd be able to make it by maximum 5 months. Now I have no clue. The more I look forward, the more anxious I get. On immitracker, 11 out of 19 people who applied from UAE have their PPR for Dec AOR (active cases). One even got it yesterday. Let's just hope for the best.

Meanwhile, a poem for you all.

Oh dear PPR, why you so far?
Made a wish upon a shooting star,
Sang a sad song with my guitar,
An old one from my repertoire.

Every day I check my account,
Even a small update is paramount,
I see none, the days I count,
Yet in my hopes, there's no discount.

I hope everyone gets this golden mail,
Faster though, not at the speed of a snail,
And then joy and happiness shall prevail,
For sure, I'll buy you all a nice cocktail.

So keep your hopes high, don't let it die,
Game face on, let me hear your battle cry,
No doubt, you'll definitely qualify,
And to Canada we all will soon fly.