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Ray of Hope - 119th Draw

derkdsou

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Oct 3, 2018
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Hi all, I know that trying to improve on your CRS score is on everyone's mind here. In this changing climate, consider taking a closer look at the several Provincial Nominee Porgrams (PNP). It may be that either you or your spouse have worked or are working in an NOC that is of interest to a province. As you already know, a PNP nomination gives you a boost of 600 points and a guaranteed invitation in the next round. I also know that French is of interest to some of the provinces, including ON.

There is another matter of serious potential consequence to the Express Entry program: The upcoming federal elections in October. At the start of the year, the opinion polls where showing the Liberals neck-to-neck with the Conservatives, but after a number of scandals Trudeau and his party are quite bruised and are trailing the Conservatives by 7 percentage points in the overall CBS poll of polls. The present likelihood of the Liberals winning more seats than the Conservatives is very low. Nobody knows exactly what will happen to the EE program with the Conservatives in power, but it could mean they either sharply reduce the number of ITAs or increase the processing time back to years (not months) to dissuade people from applying. I really hope the drawbridge to Castle Canada doesn't go up in October, but I would like you all to aim for an ITA before that if possible.

My old post with the rest of the advice is pasted below for reference:

Hi all, as someone who is waiting for their PPR to come through, I believe the period between creating an EE profile and waiting for an ITA is the most stressful and nerve-wracking. The stress that follows after an ITA is different because you have more certainty over the process and timelines.

It appears that IRCC have decided to hold draws every couple of weeks at 3,350 invites per round, and the trend is holding at 450+ since the end of January. If you are stuck in the 430s and 440s, I would like to offer you some humble advice: a) try to improve your CRS score (suggestions below), and b) create a profile and join the pool as quickly as you can so you don't miss a back-to-back draw like the one on 30th Jan (438).

Here are some ways in which you can increase your CRS score:

1. If you're married, calculate your CRS score by switching the primary candidate as either the husband or the wife. It might make a huge difference!

2. Try to achieve the highest band in each of the four sections of IELTS:
Listening: 8.5/9, Reading: 8/9, Writing: 7.5/9, Speaking: 7.5/9

3. If you already speak some French, there is a total of 54 points available for scoring in the highest bands of either the TEF or TCF Canada. Even if you are able to score up to NCLC 7 or above in any of the sections that's an extra 3 points per section, and an additional 30 points if you hit NCLC 7 in each of the four sections! If you don't speak French now and really need some extra points, consider learning French formally for a year or longer. The TEF/TCF are not easy to "hack".

4. If you have the luxury of time or money, consider getting a second certificate/degree that will be recognized by any of the ECA bodies (such as WES, IQAS, etc.) as either a second certificate/diploma of one year or more (33 additional points) or a master's (40 additional points). Be forewarned that many postgraduate diplomas from India are not recognized as a master's degree and some may not even be recognized as a second certificate, so be sure to research this area thoroughly.

Good luck, and I hope you find yourself invited in the next round!
 

Not_Your_Donkey_Kong

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I am bit confused, I am at 457 with CEC class 1 year Canadian exp , bachelors and 2 years study in Canada,
My ielts score was: 7 , L 8 S 7 R and W 6 , If I am thinking to re-write Ielts exam again, the next date avail is June 29 and the result would be out by July 12 , + $315 + day off from Work, + mental stress.
Not pretty sure if June 29 is avail now or not anymore,

1.Not sure Should I book the exam? As if I do , I would be still on hold fr 3 draws?
2.Or Should I wait for the next 3 draws - Chances of CRS between 455+/- ?
3. Wait for June 12 draw and see what could we predict?
4. Any of your Opinion?
Additional guidance would be appreciated

Thanks In advance.
457 will pass by the end of July, maybe sooner. If you can wait till then, i.e you aren't losing any points due to birthday or IELTS expiration, then do wait. 457 is a very good score. No iota of doubt that it won't get through (unless CIC choses to implement a three week draw again, but that is highly improbable).
 

Not_Your_Donkey_Kong

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Hi all, I know that trying to improve on your CRS score is on everyone's mind here. In this changing climate, consider taking a closer look at the several Provincial Nominee Porgrams (PNP). It may be that either you or your spouse have worked or are working in an NOC that is of interest to a province. As you already know, a PNP nomination gives you a boost of 600 points and a guaranteed invitation in the next round. I also know that French is of interest to some of the provinces, including ON.

There is another matter of serious potential consequence to the Express Entry program: The upcoming federal elections in October. At the start of the year, the opinion polls where showing the Liberals neck-to-neck with the Conservatives, but after a number of scandals Trudeau and his party are quite bruised and are trailing the Conservatives by 7 percentage points in the overall CBS poll of polls. The present likelihood of the Liberals winning more seats than the Conservatives is very low. Nobody knows exactly what will happen to the EE program with the Conservatives in power, but it could mean they either sharply reduce the number of ITAs or increase the processing time back to years (not months) to dissuade people from applying. I really hope the drawbridge to Castle Canada doesn't go up in October, but I would like you all to aim for an ITA before that if possible.

My old post with the rest of the advice is pasted below for reference:
Conservatives won't do anything to skilled immigration. They aren't against it. In fact, their policy is rather about simplifying the process for skilled immigrants and to reduce the processing times for such immigration.

However, they do are highly vocal against refugee protection, asylum seekers, and illegal immigration.

Reducing the number of skilled immigrants is the last thing they 'd want to do, in fact Andrew Scheer even went as far to say that it has been Trudeau who has convinced the average canadian that immigration levels should be reduced.
The best they 'd do, I believe, is reduce the target set for family class and refugees.
 

Eddiesol

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Mar 22, 2019
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Hi all, I know that trying to improve on your CRS score is on everyone's mind here. In this changing climate, consider taking a closer look at the several Provincial Nominee Porgrams (PNP). It may be that either you or your spouse have worked or are working in an NOC that is of interest to a province. As you already know, a PNP nomination gives you a boost of 600 points and a guaranteed invitation in the next round. I also know that French is of interest to some of the provinces, including ON.

There is another matter of serious potential consequence to the Express Entry program: The upcoming federal elections in October. At the start of the year, the opinion polls where showing the Liberals neck-to-neck with the Conservatives, but after a number of scandals Trudeau and his party are quite bruised and are trailing the Conservatives by 7 percentage points in the overall CBS poll of polls. The present likelihood of the Liberals winning more seats than the Conservatives is very low. Nobody knows exactly what will happen to the EE program with the Conservatives in power, but it could mean they either sharply reduce the number of ITAs or increase the processing time back to years (not months) to dissuade people from applying. I really hope the drawbridge to Castle Canada doesn't go up in October, but I would like you all to aim for an ITA before that if possible.

My old post with the rest of the advice is pasted below for reference:
The conservatives won't target ee they are more likely to target illegal immigrants and refugees
 

Queenslander88

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Jun 26, 2018
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Conservatives won't do anything to skilled immigration. They aren't against it. In fact, their policy is rather about simplifying the process for skilled immigrants and to reduce the processing times for such immigration.

However, they do are highly vocal against refugee protection, asylum seekers, and illegal immigration.

Reducing the number of skilled immigrants is the last thing they 'd want to do, in fact Andrew Scheer even went as far to say that it has been Trudeau who has convinced the average canadian that immigration levels should be reduced.
The best they 'd do, I believe, is reduce the target set for family class and refugees.
Very true, they are just against refugees and illegal migrants..
 

derkdsou

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Oct 3, 2018
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I appreciate that. I'm no pundit on Canadian politics but it was Trudeau's government that introduced Express Entry in 2015 and it is open to being overhauled (too many quotes and ministers to reference). The Conservatives will not carry on with business as usual - that's for sure - but what they actually shake up is something we can only know this winter. I wish I could gaze into a crystal ball and tell you they won't cut back on the number of ITAs, but they very likely will. I'm just saying I wouldn't take my chances, that is all.

Conservatives won't do anything to skilled immigration. They aren't against it. In fact, their policy is rather about simplifying the process for skilled immigrants and to reduce the processing times for such immigration.

However, they do are highly vocal against refugee protection, asylum seekers, and illegal immigration.

Reducing the number of skilled immigrants is the last thing they 'd want to do, in fact Andrew Scheer even went as far to say that it has been Trudeau who has convinced the average canadian that immigration levels should be reduced.
The best they 'd do, I believe, is reduce the target set for family class and refugees.
 

Not_Your_Donkey_Kong

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I appreciate that. I'm no pundit on Canadian politics but it was Trudeau's government that introduced Express Entry in 2015 and it is open to being overhauled (too many quotes and ministers to reference). The Conservatives will not carry on with business as usual - that's for sure - but what they actually shake up is something we can only know this winter. I can't gaze into the crystal ball and tell you they won't cut back on the number of ITAs, but they very likely will. I'm just saying I wouldn't take my chances, that is all.
Yes! Future is full of surprises, but politics, oh no, that's shrewd but predictable (at least the policies are).
What I believe will happen is that if conservatives gain power, the first thing they 'd do is crack down on illegal immigration and then on refugees. This 'd be heavy and widely publicised (just to convince the public that they are actually up to some good and keeping their word).

As far as EE is concerned, they 'd retain status quo, at least till the later half of 2020. Then if they feel losing ground, they 'd alter that too, reduce the immigration targets that is. And if that too fails, then they ll revamp the entire system with something more suited to the conservative vision.

Now I am not relying on any solid evidence for hypothesising such, rather just on two principles that govern the working of a seasoned political mind, which are, prudence and caution.
No shrewd politician lays bare all his cards at once. They have to keep something with them to give them momentum before the next election. Politics is just like that, a long term game fulfilled by short term policies. Haha.
 
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derkdsou

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Watching House of Cards much? ;)

Yes! Future is full of surprises, but politics, oh no, that's shrewd but predictable (at least the policies are).
What I believe will happen is that if conservatives gain power, the first thing they 'd do is crack down on illegal immigration and then on refugees. This 'd be heavy and widely publicised (just to convince the public that they are actually up to some good and keeping their word).

As far as EE is concerned, they 'd retain status quo, at least till the later half of 2020. Then if they feel losing ground, they 'd alter that too, reduce the immigration targets that is. And if that too fails, then they ll revamp the entire system with something more suited to the conservative vision.

Now I am not relying on any solid evidence for hypothesising such, rather just on two principles that govern the working of a seasoned political mind, which are, prudence and caution.
No shrewd politician lays bare all his cards at once. They have to keep something with them to give them momentum before the next election. Politics is just like that, a long term game fulfilled by short term policies. Haha.
 

ankur92

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Mar 27, 2018
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I appreciate that. I'm no pundit on Canadian politics but it was Trudeau's government that introduced Express Entry in 2015 and it is open to being overhauled (too many quotes and ministers to reference). The Conservatives will not carry on with business as usual - that's for sure - but what they actually shake up is something we can only know this winter. I wish I could gaze into a crystal ball and tell you they won't cut back on the number of ITAs, but they very likely will. I'm just saying I wouldn't take my chances, that is all.
Sir it was conservatives who introduced Express Entry to bring skilled labour to Canada in Jan 2015. Please leave Politics for politicians. We still have 6 months of 2019 left. I hope, CRS score comes down.
 
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ripul

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Quick question:-
Is PF considered as legit proof of funds? I mean has anybody received any objection from CIC if they showed PF as PoF.
I basically have enough funds including PF amount, so going to show only "Bank Account + PF". I can show Mutual Funds as well.
Thanks in advance!
 
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AB17

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Conservatives wont tamper with express entry policy. Its the most elaborative white washed scheme to make money. The newly onboard skilled Immigrants contribute in net effect to the economy.
 

13nitinsharma

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Quick question:-
Is PF considered as legit proof of funds? I mean has anybody received any objection from CIC if they showed PF as PoF.
I basically have enough funds including PF amount, so going to show only "Bank Account + PF". I can show Mutual Funds as well.
Thanks in advance!
Yes, EPF can be used as Proof of Funds followed by a certificate from that financial institution including the withdraw-able amount.

Please refer to the below thread with complete procedure on how to get PF balance certificate and A/C statement:
https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/procedure-to-get-pf-balance-certificate-and-a-c-statement-from-pf-office-india.412640/
 
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