Validation of COPR, not all family members will come, future sponsorship

[LakeOntario]

Dear members,

We have got COPRs issued for me and 3 dependents (wife and two children 1 and 4 years old) valid till 6th of November 2018. At the moment we can not move to Canada permanently, so we are planning short landing just to validate COPR and then after a couple a days go back to Europe. And due to the fact, that our first visit to Canada will not be long, we do not want to travel with our younger child.
Questions are:
1. Will it be problem to do so? I mean if CBSA officer can refuse to confirm our PR status if we will not come all together?
2. If not, is it difficult to sponsor our younger child in future, after we will get our PR?
3. To apply for child sponsorship is it necessary for this child being present in Canada?

Thank you for you answers

 

[scylla]

Dear members,

We have got COPRs issued for me and 3 dependents (wife and two children 1 and 4 years old) valid till 6th of November 2018. At the moment we can not move to Canada permanently, so we are planning short landing just to validate COPR and then after a couple a days go back to Europe. And due to the fact, that our first visit to Canada will not be long, we do not want to travel with our younger child.
Questions are:
1. Will it be problem to do so? I mean if CBSA officer can refuse to confirm our PR status if we will not come all together?
2. If not, is it difficult to sponsor our younger child in future, after we will get our PR?
3. To apply for child sponsorship is it necessary for this child being present in Canada?

Thank you for you answers

It's not a problem - however you may regret this later since it will complicate a future move to Canada. To sponsor your child in the future, you or your spouse will need to be in Canada. The child does not have to be in Canada. At the time you sponsor, you will have to meet the residency obligation and processing will take around six months. The individual sponsoring the child will need to remain in Canada while the application is being processed.

Best option by far is to take your child now. But again, you don't have to.

 

[LakeOntario]

Thank you, Scylla, for the detailed answer. At present we just do not want to travel with both children at once. What you think about such a procedure:
We will land with older child, then, not waiting for PR cards, come back to Europe. After that before COPR expiring, we will travel with the younger one. I know that there is an obligation to have PR card or PR travel document, when flying to Canada, but as we have citizenship of visa-exempt country, we can have eTA and therefore travel to Canada on this basis. I have read a thread here, that someone did really travel with eTA after COPR was validated but still without PR card. So that mean that not in every case eTA is automatically canceled after PR landing procedure is complete.
Question is if we will be required by CBSA officer in the airport to show our PR cards during the process of younger child's COPR validation?
Or travel to US and than to provide COPR validation on US/Canada border, I have read that PR card is not needed while traveling by car?
Thank you

 

[scylla]

Thank you, Scylla, for the detailed answer. At present we just do not want to travel with both children at once. What you think about such a procedure:
We will land with older child, then, not waiting for PR cards, come back to Europe. After that before COPR expiring, we will travel with the younger one. I know that there is an obligation to have PR card or PR travel document, when flying to Canada, but as we have citizenship of visa-exempt country, we can have eTA and therefore travel to Canada on this basis. I have read a thread here, that someone did really travel with eTA after COPR was validated but still without PR card. So that mean that not in every case eTA is automatically canceled after PR landing procedure is complete.
Question is if we will be required by CBSA officer in the airport to show our PR cards during the process of younger child's COPR validation?
Or travel to US and than to provide COPR validation on US/Canada border, I have read that PR card is not needed while traveling by car?
Thank you

Once you have landed and become PRs, your eTAs will be invalid and you'll no longer be able to use them to travel. You will need either valid PR cards or PRTDs to return to Canada. Ignore the thread you've read. We've seen one case here where someone was still able to fly on the eTA (and it was when the eTA system was first introduced and the process was relatively new). Everyone else has found theirs have been invalidated automatically. Assume you won't be able to fly directly to Canada without a valid PR card or PRTD.

Yes - the other option would be to fly to the US and re-enter Canada by land using a private vehicle. You can do this without a PRTD or PR card.

 

[canuck78]

Your 1 year old can travel for free. Might as well do it even though it may not be fun. I'd just keep everyone on European time for the couple of days. If you bring your child to Canada and sponsor them they won't have health insurance for that period. Obviously you're going to do what works for your family but my opinion.