Temporary work permit -> study permit -> residence?

[ionutbaboi]

Thank you for the advice.

@vensak it is not about the money. It's about making a life for myself outside of Europe which is going down the drain but mainly about practicing common law - the type of law you and US have, and to some resemblance, UK. It's been my passion and my dream all my adult life.

And US is out of the question, at least for now since that country seems to not be faring that well either, internally.

Also I see that LLM's can be either 12 months or 24 months (part-time). If I go for the part-time ones I will be getting a 2 year study permit I assume right?

 

[canuck78]

Thank you for the advice.

@vensak it is not about the money. It's about making a life for myself outside of Europe which is going down the drain but mainly about practicing common law - the type of law you and US have, and to some resemblance, UK. It's been my passion and my dream all my adult life.

And US is out of the question, at least for now since that country seems to not be faring that well either, internally.

Would be careful about romanticizing Canada too much. We also have problems as a country. There are also a huge surplus of law graduates and getting an articling position may be very difficult. The whole law industry is actually in a transition period due to automation and outsourcing of research.

 

[ionutbaboi]

Would be careful about romanticizing Canada too much. We also have problems as a country. There are also a huge surplus of law graduates and getting an articling position may be very difficult. The whole law industry is actually in a transition period due to automation and outsourcing of research.

I'm patient. Wouldn't mind doing years of other jobs until I can work my way to a novice law position. Wouldn't mind being an office assistant and help with filing and redacting.

As opposed to the law industry in Romania, where I can't even begin to explain what's going on here.. Canada with all its flaws still is a more suitable option. I also like the cold.

 

[vensak]

so. technically you can still apply for a USA green card lottery (it is not scrapped from what I know).
And you made me laugh there.

USA or Canada is no paradise where only good things happens and everybody lives happily ever after.
Soo.. with that said go for that working holiday. 1 year of such experience will give you some idea about how the real life here is.

On a side rest assured that there are really plenty people on this forum who would trade your situation without hesitation (like access to 28 countries job markets and other nice perks that comes with it). And even those that have H1B visa in USA or student visa / work visa in Canada.

And additionally common law system is not a blessing, it is more like nightmare, since in most cases it force you to use lawyers so that they can search in history if there was a similar case and how it was decided.
Also some little things like orthopedics, dental, or optometrists are not free at all here. Education is hyper expensive when compared your market.
Phone bills and internet bills are over the roof.
And those are just some nice things to get here.
You can also forget that you had any law school in Europe, that one is not transferable unless you are specifically hired to deal with that market.
So if you want to get back to that business you can either go for paralegal which is not that much (but it can be done faster) or then you have to go for the studies all over only to find out just how hard is it to start without proper social connections.

That marketing that you have might be transferable, but you need several years of experience to go with to be able to hit something.
Other than that you will be starting on basic positions here.

 

[scylla]

Thank you for the advice.

@vensak it is not about the money. It's about making a life for myself outside of Europe which is going down the drain but mainly about practicing common law - the type of law you and US have, and to some resemblance, UK. It's been my passion and my dream all my adult life.

And US is out of the question, at least for now since that country seems to not be faring that well either, internally.

Also I see that LLM's can be either 12 months or 24 months (part-time). If I go for the part-time ones I will be getting a 2 year study permit I assume right?

If you study part time - you will not be able to work while you study and will not qualify for a work permit after you complete your studies. If you want PR, the program you take needs to be full time.

My biggest recommendation to you is to take a break from posting here and really dedicate time to researching all of this on the official CIC web site. Many of the questions you are asking are extremely basic. There's really no short cut to doing research if you are serious about coming here - apart from hiring a lawyer to assist you.

 

[vensak]

if you are really up to that work permit without LMIA, there is a way.
But you have to speak French decently (and in your case learning that language should not be that difficult).
Search for Mobilite Fracophone
If you can prove that you are French speaker that would be either native speaker or have French on level CBL 7 from all 4 skills (TEF Canada), then they can approve closed working visa without going through LMIA.
That one, Nafta exchanges and intercompany transfers are LMIA exempt.
But you still need to have a valid offer from an employer. And since most employers do not know that such way exists, they will not consider you.
On a serious note, find website of Canadian Embassy in France, they have all kind of webinars and best information about what is so happening around Europe.
Also if you get express entry profile you might get invited to a yearly event that is in Paris and Brussel - destination Canada. There will be all provinces there and some potential employers.

 

[ionutbaboi]

so. technically you can still apply for a USA green card lottery (it is not scrapped from what I know).


That marketing that you have might be transferable, but you need several years of experience to go with to be able to hit something.
Other than that you will be starting on basic positions here.

Fully aware of that. Warehouses, Call Centers, did my digging. And a paralegal job is what I had in mind, not to be a practicing lawyer. I am aware of my handicap. But with a decent paralegal position and a bit of brains and hard work I should be able to at least lead a decent life, even if without extravagance or luxuries.

Yeah, the internet speed you got there is a downside considering I come from the fastest internet in the world and we pay like 5$ per month for it. Also unlimited phone nationally and internationally is around 8$. I know yours go in the hundreds.

Also Alberta, the region I am aiming for, Calgary in particular is very similar to my home town. I do not like busy towns and busy streets. I like the mountains, the cold air and the perspective of building a house, in time, and not have people try to break in to mug or kill me during the night.

 

[ionutbaboi]

if you are really up to that work permit without LMIA, there is a way.
But you have to speak French decently (and in your case learning that language should not be that difficult).
Search for Mobilite Fracophone

Thanks for this. I did study 8 years of French but I need to really catch up on it to be decent.

 

[vensak]

Fully aware of that. Warehouses, Call Centers, did my digging. And a paralegal job is what I had in mind, not to be a practicing lawyer. I am aware of my handicap. But with a decent paralegal position and a bit of brains and hard work I should be able to at least lead a decent life, even if without extravagance or luxuries.

Yeah, the internet speed you got there is a downside considering I come from the fastest internet in the world and we pay like 5$ per month for it. Also unlimited phone nationally and internationally is around 8$. I know yours go in the hundreds.

Also Alberta, the region I am aiming for, Calgary in particular is very similar to my home town. I do not like busy towns and busy streets. I like the mountains, the cold air and the perspective of building a house, in time, and not have people try to break in to mug or kill me during the night.

Your internet bill here will be 50+ (close to 100) and it still not be very as fast. Phone bills are pain, but then again it depends.
For a paralegal you need again connection. Yes they will happily sell you diploma and then when you will be out of the market, who will hire you? Since there are tons of others seeing it as an acceptable way.
And without those years of experience under others you will not get base of clients and the needed notoriety.
Also rest assured that renting something here is rather expensive. Car is expensive (and that is a must). What you pay for insurance in Europe for a whole year, you will pay here for less than a month.
And when you come to the moment that you want to buy a house, it will cost you 20+ years of back payments to the bank. (not to mention what will be the quality of construction of a house here).

 

[scylla]

Also Alberta, the region I am aiming for, Calgary in particular is very similar to my home town. I do not like busy towns and busy streets. I like the mountains, the cold air and the perspective of building a house, in time, and not have people try to break in to mug or kill me during the night.

FYI - Calgary is quite large (over a million people) and quite busy.

 

[ionutbaboi]

FYI - Calgary is quite large (over a million people) and quite busy.

Yeah, but it's 2 times the size of Bucharest, and we got 4 million there counting students and unregistered people.

Still, you guys have painted a pretty real picture. Thank you for all the info, time and feedback. It surely made me think harder about certain aspects. Thank you all immensely again.