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Applying Inland - TRV Help

marip7

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Hi! I'll be applying indland shortly and my TRV will be expiring next month. I am also sending in an application to extend my stay as a visitor. Do I also need to send in an application for a new TRV as well?

Also? what should I put as "length of intended stay"? Should I say 1 year as that might be the approximate length I might wait for my PR application?
 
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KBH

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I would be hesitant to apply inland with your TRV expiring so soon. If you aren't approved for an extension, you would have to leave the country and your inland app would be void, you'd have to start all over. Are you applying for an OWP as well?
 

marip7

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I would be hesitant to apply inland with your TRV expiring so soon. If you aren't approved for an extension, you would have to leave the country and your inland app would be void, you'd have to start all over. Are you applying for an OWP as well?
Yes I am applying of an OWP. So I would have implied status at least.
 

KBH

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Yes I am applying of an OWP. So I would have implied status at least.
OK, that's good. Yes, you will have implied status, but only once you receive your AOR. Right now that's taking about 8 weeks. Prior to that, you would need to apply to extend your stay as a visitor (not submit a new TRV application) since you are already in Canada. Processing time for that is currently 118 days, and you would be covered with implied status during that time as well.

When exactly are you planning on applying? My recommendation would be to apply for the extension at the same time you submit your application. You are likely to hear back with AOR before you hear back on your extension. That way you would definitely still be in status when they received your OWP app (being in status is a requirement to apply for the OWP). :)
 

marip7

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OK, that's good. Yes, you will have implied status, but only once you receive your AOR. Right now that's taking about 8 weeks. Prior to that, you would need to apply to extend your stay as a visitor (not submit a new TRV application) since you are already in Canada. Processing time for that is currently 118 days, and you would be covered with implied status during that time as well.

When exactly are you planning on applying? My recommendation would be to apply for the extension at the same time you submit your application. You are likely to hear back with AOR before you hear back on your extension. That way you would definitely still be in status when they received your OWP app (being in status is a requirement to apply for the OWP). :)
I'm planning on applying next Monday. My TRV expires on December 13th. Is this enough time?
 

Rob_TO

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OK, that's good. Yes, you will have implied status, but only once you receive your AOR. Right now that's taking about 8 weeks. Prior to that, you would need to apply to extend your stay as a visitor (not submit a new TRV application) since you are already in Canada. Processing time for that is currently 118 days, and you would be covered with implied status during that time as well.

When exactly are you planning on applying? My recommendation would be to apply for the extension at the same time you submit your application. You are likely to hear back with AOR before you hear back on your extension. That way you would definitely still be in status when they received your OWP app (being in status is a requirement to apply for the OWP). :)
This is wrong. OP will be on implied status the second they mail their inland PR app along with OWP app. The OWP app gives immediate implied status.

As long as one has valid status at the time they apply for inland PR/OWP, there is no need to apply for additional extension of visitor status.

Sometimes people apply for visitor status extension also, just as a back-up in case something was wrong in their PR/OWP app and it's returned, they will not suddenly be out of status. But this is entirely optional.
 

KBH

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December 29th, 2017
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January 23rd, 2018
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I'm planning on applying next Monday. My TRV expires on December 13th. Is this enough time?
Yes, that would be fine, as long as you submit your application to extend your stay by then as well.
A mistake a lot of people make is NOT applying to extend their stay, when their TRV or visit will expire before they receive AOR, assuming they will get implied status from their OWP application, and then the application is returned for some reason, then they are not only out of status but also can't apply for OWP unless they are able to restore their status. So definitely submit that extension app and you should be OK.
 

KBH

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December 29th, 2017
VISA ISSUED...
January 23rd, 2018
LANDED..........
Feb 1st, 2018
This is wrong. OP will be on implied status the second they mail their inland PR app along with OWP app. The OWP app gives immediate implied status.

As long as one has valid status at the time they apply, there is no need to apply for additional extension of visitor status.

Sometimes people apply for visitor status extension also, just as a back-up in case something was wrong in their PR/OWP app and it's returned, they will not suddenly be out of status. But this is entirely optional.
With all due respect, I disagree. Apps are getting returned much more frequently in 2017 and I see posts from people at least once a week who assumed they would have implied status due to the OWP app, but then it gets returned and they're totally screwed. You can't actually know that you have implied status until you receive AOR. If your visit or TRV is expiring before you will receive AOR on your app, the prudent and wise choice is to apply for an extension. It saves a ton of trouble, especially with how frequently this has been happening.
 

Rob_TO

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13-07-2012
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18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
With all due respect, I disagree. Apps are getting returned much more frequently in 2017 and I see posts from people at least once a week who assumed they would have implied status due to the OWP app, but then it gets returned and they're totally screwed. You can't actually know that you have implied status until you receive AOR. If your visit or TRV is expiring before you will receive AOR on your app, the prudent and wise choice is to apply for an extension. It saves a ton of trouble, especially with how frequently this has been happening.
No, you have implied status the second you submit any request for status, be it through a visitor extension or an OWP app. This is a simple fact. One does not need to wait for AOR before getting implied status, that is completely wrong.

The only issue is if someone has filled in their PR app or OWP app incorrectly, it may be returned which would then cause the applicant to be out of status. They would then need to submit a restoration of status app along with the next OWP app they submitted.

Again though, if one is confident they've filled in the PR/OWP app correctly and aren't concerned that it will be returned, they don't need to apply for extension of status also, it's entirely optional, although yes it is the most safest option to do. Some people though may prefer to take the risk and save the fee of the visitor extension app.
 
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canuck_in_uk

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Hi! I'll be applying indland shortly and my TRV will be expiring next month. I am also sending in an application to extend my stay as a visitor. Do I also need to send in an application for a new TRV as well?

Also? what should I put as "length of intended stay"? Should I say 1 year as that might be the approximate length I might wait for my PR application?
Hi

The validiy of your TRV has NOTHING to do with your status in Canada. The fact that your TRV is expiring soon means absolutely nothing in terms of applying to extend your status. You do not need to apply for a new TRV.

As said by Rob, you will get Implied Status by submitting the OWP app with the inland PR app. AOR has nothing to do with it. It is your choice if you want to apply for a visitor extension as well, just in case your OWP/PR app is returned.
 

marip7

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When does your actual visitor status expire? Again, TRV validity is something entirely different.
No date was written on the stamp. So I assumed it was until my TRV expires (Dec 13th).

Also, for the extension, what should I say as "length of intended stay"?