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Using job offer letter for ICT WP Extension as proof of LMIA exempt for PR

Anand.Vyas

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Nov 23, 2016
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Hi All,

As per the revised policy for the Express Entry, if we do have a job offer letter for next one more year for ICT Workpermit (LMIA exempt class) we can get additional points.
As per my company policy I'm not going to get a valid job offer letter to prove the same.
But I do have the job offer letter for ICT WP extension, where the company explains everything including the extension for next 24 more months.

Can I use this offer letter to prove that my company is willing to give me job for next 24 more months and there by get additional points for PR?

Please advice,
 

DelPiero07

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Oct 2, 2016
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You are asking a question that nobody knows the answer to, people with ICT work permits just started gaining extra points since the Nov 19th changes. We do not know how strict the officers will be regarding the wording of the job offer.

What I can tell you from the past (for LMIA holders claiming 600 points) is that a lot of them got rejected for not including the right wording (the word "permanent") in their job offer.

Whether this extension you have is going to be sufficient? Again, nobody knows... you can take your chances but there is no guarantee as it is not following IRCC's requirements 100%
 

schemingon

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Feb 19, 2014
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Anand.Vyas said:
Appreciate your help if you can reply here.
Only thing that I can say is that I am in a similar situation and I am not using the extension letter as offer. If you have a decent CRS, will suggest to wait for ITA or go for PNP, unless the expectation from CIC is very clear. Mis representation will be even worser a problem. The best bet is to consult a professional immigration consultant/lawyer.
 

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WP_Jun13

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schemingon said:
Only thing that I can say is that I am in a similar situation and I am not using the extension letter as offer. If you have a decent CRS, will suggest to wait for ITA or go for PNP, unless the expectation from CIC is very clear. Mis representation will be even worser a problem. The best bet is to consult a professional immigration consultant/lawyer.
I am in a similar situation too.

When the employer is not supporting this process we try to explain with the other available documents. Will it be considered as misrepresentation? I believe it's not. We can clearly state all the details in a LOE and let the officer make the decision.

Seniors - Can some one please explain the reason for such a requirement from CIC to provide that additional 50 points? What is the main idea behind that "1 year job offer after getting PR"? if we are currently on a permanent job with another 2 years validity on wp why cant that be considered as an equivalent? any thoughts? In my opinion a current job with validity is more concrete than a future job offer (>6 months in future). I am not questioning the CICs requirement but I am wondering on what basis they would have arrived at this ..

any thoughts?
 

thinkshady

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WP_Jun13 said:
I am in a similar situation too.

When the employer is not supporting this process we try to explain with the other available documents. Will it be considered as misrepresentation? I believe it's not. We can clearly state all the details in a LOE and let the officer make the decision.

Seniors - Can some one please explain the reason for such a requirement from CIC to provide that additional 50 points? What is the main idea behind that "1 year job offer after getting PR"? if we are currently on a permanent job with another 2 years validity on wp why cant that be considered as an equivalent? any thoughts? In my opinion a current job with validity is more concrete than a future job offer (>6 months in future). I am not questioning the CICs requirement but I am wondering on what basis they would have arrived at this ..

any thoughts?
This question has been bugging to all ICT folks, only option I would say is to give it a try with WP extension Offer letter along with LOE and see how it turns up. Nobody has answer to this mate.
 

WP_Jun13

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thinkshady said:
This question has been bugging to all ICT folks, only option I would say is to give it a try with WP extension Offer letter along with LOE and see how it turns up. Nobody has answer to this mate.
Yes. that's right.

In my case I do not even have the WP extension offer letter. I only have the offer of employment number which was submitted for extension.

I am going to put forward all available documents with LOE as I have not done anything wrong and ready to accept the VO decision.
 

vishal_t

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Aug 12, 2015
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Yes this has been bugging all ICT WP holders who have received 50 extra points. The key conditions being: permanent , full time, min 1yr exp with same employer & min 1 yr 'offer' from the same employer after a PR is granted.


The 1 yr condition for the 'offer' i believe is same as the one needed for LMIA too. This put in ICT at par with LMIA. And hence is critical.
 

WP_Jun13

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vishal_t said:
Yes this has been bugging all ICT WP holders who have received 50 extra points. The key conditions being: permanent , full time, min 1yr exp with same employer & min 1 yr 'offer' from the same employer after a PR is granted.


The 1 yr condition for the 'offer' i believe is same as the one needed for LMIA too. This put in ICT at par with LMIA. And hence is critical.
Thanks for the explanation. I am not aware of that offer requirement for LMIA.

my current assignment is valid until end of nov-2017 but my wp is valid until nov-2018. can I use my current assignment letter? It doesn't have "1 year from PR"?
 

vishal_t

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Nobody knows if that would work. As in a case of LMIA where in an employer sponsors the LMIA ( indirectly a PR) and guarantees that he would keep him/her for 1 year.

And now that LMIA is par with ICT ( i.e both get 50 points); i would assume that CIC expects the same offer from employer for ICT case.
 

DelPiero07

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vishal_t said:
Nobody knows if that would work. As in a case of LMIA where in an employer sponsors the LMIA ( indirectly a PR) and guarantees that he would keep him/her for 1 year.

And now that LMIA is par with ICT ( i.e both get 50 points); i would assume that CIC expects the same offer from employer for ICT case.
Correct, whether it is LMIA or ICT the requirements are the same for a valid job offer.

"A valid job offer has to be:

made by one employer
for continuous, paid, full-time work (at least 30 hours a week),
for work that is:
for at least one year after we issue your permanent resident visa
not seasonal
not on a contract basis, and
in a job that is Skill Type 0, or Skill Levels A or B of the 2011 National Occupational Classification (NOC)"

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/offer.asp
 

Mumbai_Maratha

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I think all the ICT holder with extra 50 points, decide and use same format for "Letter of Explanation"...

This would make CIC to rethink and decide the case accordingly.....
 

WP_Jun13

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Mumbai_Maratha said:
I think all the ICT holder with extra 50 points, decide and use same format for "Letter of Explanation"...

This would make CIC to rethink and decide the case accordingly.....
I don't think that's right approach.

I believe CIC should have pretty good idea on our issues. It will be better each of us submit LOE with available documents.