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IMM 5669 Schedule A - CIC asking for the form again, please Help.

vinotintazo

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Feb 9, 2015
Doc's Request.
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AOR Received.
Mar 29, 2015 OWP: April 27, 2015
Med's Done....
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Interview........
SA: April 12, 2016 AIP: April 12, 2016 DM: April 12, 2016 Interview: Waived
LANDED..........
May 3, 2016
Hi,

CIC has requested this form again from the Principal Applicant (my wife), seems we cannot get it right. They asked for it back on March 29th.

Their response was an Incomplete form due to:

For the Schedule A Background / Declaration (IMM5669) form you must provide details for every month and year since the age of 18 or the past 10 years from the date on which your was application received (2015/02/10), whichever is most recent. There can be no gaps in this period of time.

We went over it, seemed we missed a date, and sent it via email.

We just received an Email again, stating the exact same message, so at this point I'm just panicking. :-X.

So I'm going over the form, and just going to ask if each question is correct.


7. Education, No mention on the Letter from CIC
-All information Seems ok for the years
-In the details the order is not specified so we start from Secondary, up untill University.

8. Personal History. Probably the section that's wrong
-10 years ago, my wife was 16, so we started since she was 18 (is more recent)
-We included personal history up untill the date we submitted the form (Feb 10th 2015), this is ok?
-Order states to start from the most recent (we started from the oldest activity) ** probably wrong will change it to start with most recent activity, in this case first activity should be, from YYYY/MM to Present or 2015/02 ?**
-We included, studies, unemployment, employment, we did not include travels. She did travel to Mexico/US to meet me about 3 times in this period. for up to two weeks each time. ** probably wrong will include travel outside of the country, if it doesnt fit, will include aditional page. **

8, 10, 11
-I put None in every non-date box as it does not apply to my wife.


12. Addresses
-Order not specified, so we started since her 18th birthday. up untill date of application submition (2015/02)

Declaration of applicant
-She signs it, and puts today's date on it.

Deliver to CIC
-I'm assuming they received the 2nd copy of this form (requested back in March 29th).
-We printed the document, signed, scanned it and sent it Via EMAIL, as per their instructions in the Letter they sent us.

it says the following.

The requested documents/information and a copy of this letter must be submitted within 30 days from the date of this letter.

Failure to provide the required documents with all required information may result in the refusal of your application for permanent residence. Should this occur, no further consideration will be given to your request for permanent residence unless a new application, including fees, is submitted.

Please send the documents/information to:

Attention: Application Advancement – INLAND SCLP

Email: CPCM-EXTCOM @ cic.gc.ca


-That means we sent every requested Doc, via Email right?

Any help or suggestions with this form I would greatly appreciate it, if you think I'm filling it right/wrong please let me know, I dont want to 2 months again, for them to tell me I filled it wrong.

Thanks! :)
 

GustavesF

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The only piece of this I'm able to contribute is that when you print the form, print the final date as blank, then fill it in by hand with the word "PRESENT".
For some ridiculous reason they don't understand anything other than the word "PRESENT" as the final date.

I can't really answer anything else.
 

vinotintazo

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Jul 6, 2013
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CPC Mississauga
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Feb 9, 2015
Doc's Request.
May 2, 2015 (Forms with Typos)
AOR Received.
Mar 29, 2015 OWP: April 27, 2015
Med's Done....
Nov 9, 2014 (Upfront)
Interview........
SA: April 12, 2016 AIP: April 12, 2016 DM: April 12, 2016 Interview: Waived
LANDED..........
May 3, 2016
GustavesF said:
The only piece of this I'm able to contribute is that when you print the form, print the final date as blank, then fill it in by hand with the word "PRESENT".
For some ridiculous reason they don't understand anything other than the word "PRESENT" as the final date.

I can't really answer anything else.
I will do this, Will leave Present Dates empty, and write them by hand once Printed.

Thanks for your help.
 

Amalthea

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Interview........
waived
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waived
VISA ISSUED...
29-05-2015
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18-06-2015
vinotintazo said:
I will do this, Will leave Present Dates empty, and write them by hand once Printed.

Thanks for your help.
I'm going to edit out identifying info and post a picture of my dates for you, sorry they're giving you sooo much grief over this. One sec.
 

Mandy413

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Jun 1, 2015
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Hi,

We, too, received two e-mails regarding information missing from form IMM5669. The first time we looked it over, it seemed fine, adjusted a few things to make them more clear and re-submitted. Turns out it was still not complete. I called CIC and the woman that helped me was very helpful in outlining what was missing. Turns out the dates between schooling and personal history also need to be mentioned, which meant we were missing a whole 7 years of information. We made a spreadsheet outlining these dates, and basically added all travel/occupation for that time, and resubmitted that. Since then we have not had any update from CIC.

We didn't have any trouble with the date being 'present', we just put the date we originally sent in the application. At least she didn't mention that being an issue over the phone.

Hope that helps a bit!
 

vinotintazo

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Jul 6, 2013
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Category........
Visa Office......
CPC Mississauga
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Feb 9, 2015
Doc's Request.
May 2, 2015 (Forms with Typos)
AOR Received.
Mar 29, 2015 OWP: April 27, 2015
Med's Done....
Nov 9, 2014 (Upfront)
Interview........
SA: April 12, 2016 AIP: April 12, 2016 DM: April 12, 2016 Interview: Waived
LANDED..........
May 3, 2016
Mandy413 said:
Hi,

We, too, received two e-mails regarding information missing from form IMM5669. The first time we looked it over, it seemed fine, adjusted a few things to make them more clear and re-submitted. Turns out it was still not complete. I called CIC and the woman that helped me was very helpful in outlining what was missing. Turns out the dates between schooling and personal history also need to be mentioned, which meant we were missing a whole 7 years of information. We made a spreadsheet outlining these dates, and basically added all travel/occupation for that time, and resubmitted that. Since then we have not had any update from CIC.

We didn't have any trouble with the date being 'present', we just put the date we originally sent in the application. At least she didn't mention that being an issue over the phone.

Hope that helps a bit!
Thanks for your reply.

Did you send the forms via Email?

I called CIC, but the lady told me they cannot help me fill out the form, she said she will send me an Email, with information about where to get help - Never got the email :(

So I'm kinda stuck, noone cant tell me whats wrong with the form, or help me fill it up.
 

Amalthea

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Ottawa
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
23-09-2014
AOR Received.
12-11-2014
Med's Done....
08-07-2014
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
waived
VISA ISSUED...
29-05-2015
LANDED..........
18-06-2015
Mandy is correct. -All- dates have to be accounted for, so if they were unemployed for 2 months, they have to write that time period in. There can't be any "gaps" in the dates.

I started from when I was 18 as well, since I'm 24. I also made sure all the dates overlapped - ie 05/2009 - 07/2009, then 07/2009-10/2009, 10/2009 - 05/2012 etc

Hope this helps. Here's what my table looks like. I just wrote on the question to "Please See Attached Page"

http://puu.sh/i8SHz/2158e054a5.png
 

vinotintazo

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Jul 6, 2013
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Visa Office......
CPC Mississauga
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Feb 9, 2015
Doc's Request.
May 2, 2015 (Forms with Typos)
AOR Received.
Mar 29, 2015 OWP: April 27, 2015
Med's Done....
Nov 9, 2014 (Upfront)
Interview........
SA: April 12, 2016 AIP: April 12, 2016 DM: April 12, 2016 Interview: Waived
LANDED..........
May 3, 2016
Amalthea said:
Mandy is correct. -All- dates have to be accounted for, so if you were unemployed for 2 months, you have to write that time period.

I started from when I was 18 as well, since I'm 24. I also made sure all the dates overlapped - ie 05/2009 - 07/2009, then 07/2009-10/2009, 10/2009 - 05/2012 etc

Hope this helps. Here's what my table looks like. I just wrote on the question to "Please See Attached Page"

http://puu.sh/i8SHz/2158e054a5.png
Thanks :D, will look at this :)

Since you made a spreadsheet, did you put anything in the actual form for Question 8? or did you fill both and continued on the scanned img.?

Edit: I just read you put "Please See Attached Page". easy enough.

That's very helpfull thanks.
 

Mandy413

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Jun 1, 2015
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vinotintazo said:
Thanks for your reply.

Did you send the forms via Email?

I called CIC, but the lady told me they cannot help me fill out the form, she said she will send me an Email, with information about where to get help - Never got the email :(

So I'm kinda stuck, noone cant tell me whats wrong with the form, or help me fill it up.
Yes, we submitted both times via e-mail. I have since called CIC and haven't been so lucky with someone so helpful. My best advice would be to (for your own reference) to make one big table of all of the tables you have information in, that way it's easy to see if you have a gap in time that you're not seeing when they're all separate.
 

vinotintazo

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Jul 6, 2013
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Visa Office......
CPC Mississauga
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Feb 9, 2015
Doc's Request.
May 2, 2015 (Forms with Typos)
AOR Received.
Mar 29, 2015 OWP: April 27, 2015
Med's Done....
Nov 9, 2014 (Upfront)
Interview........
SA: April 12, 2016 AIP: April 12, 2016 DM: April 12, 2016 Interview: Waived
LANDED..........
May 3, 2016
Mandy413 said:
Yes, we submitted both times via e-mail. I have since called CIC and haven't been so lucky with someone so helpful. My best advice would be to (for your own reference) to make one big table of all of the tables you have information in, that way it's easy to see if you have a gap in time that you're not seeing when they're all separate.
Thanks, thats a good idea :)
 

vinotintazo

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Feb 9, 2015
Doc's Request.
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AOR Received.
Mar 29, 2015 OWP: April 27, 2015
Med's Done....
Nov 9, 2014 (Upfront)
Interview........
SA: April 12, 2016 AIP: April 12, 2016 DM: April 12, 2016 Interview: Waived
LANDED..........
May 3, 2016
Amalthea said:
Mandy is correct. -All- dates have to be accounted for, so if they were unemployed for 2 months, they have to write that time period in. There can't be any "gaps" in the dates.

I started from when I was 18 as well, since I'm 24. I also made sure all the dates overlapped - ie 05/2009 - 07/2009, then 07/2009-10/2009, 10/2009 - 05/2012 etc

Hope this helps. Here's what my table looks like. I just wrote on the question to "Please See Attached Page"

http://puu.sh/i8SHz/2158e054a5.png
Should I start with the most recent activity as per. The application?
 

28january

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Similar situation here, they are asking me to redo schedule A based on Q. 8 - Personal History.

My question is, when i started working, what does my status become? I have "Visitor" from the date I entered until the date that I got my OWP. "Worker"? "OWP"?
 

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Med's Request
17.03.215
Med's Done....
18.03.2015
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
04.05.2015
VISA ISSUED...
15.05.2015 in hand 29.05.2015
LANDED..........
01.06.2015
This is what we put:

Supplementary document to Schedule A Background Declaration: Section 8

October 2014 – Present : Unemployed. Work permit expired
October 2012-October 2014: Service Tech ABC Comany, XYZ Canada
April 2010- October 2014: Service Tech 123 Company ABC Mountain, Canada
February 2010- April 2010: Trades Person, HKM Company, XYZ Canada
December 2009- January 2010: Labourer XYZ Canada

October 2009-December 2009: Unemployed. Vacationing in Canada, Jane Doe Canada, XYZ Canada
September 2009 – October 2009: Unemployed Home city UK
April 2009 – September 2009: Trades Person, Capital City UK
December 2008- April 2009: Trades Person, Capital City UK
December 2007- December 2008: Trades Person, self employed, home town UK
May 2007-December 2008: Trades Person Capital City UK
July 2006-May 2007: Trades Person, QRS UK
June 2005- July 2006: Unemployed, Home City UK
March 2005- June 2005: Service Tech, HRS UK
November 2004- March 2005: Unemployed, Traveling Europe.
May 2004 – November 2004: Service Tech Capital City UK
 

Nielpilar

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vinotintazo said:
Hi,

CIC has requested this form again from the Principal Applicant (my wife), seems we cannot get it right. They asked for it back on March 29th.

Their response was an Incomplete form due to:

For the Schedule A Background / Declaration (IMM5669) form you must provide details for every month and year since the age of 18 or the past 10 years from the date on which your was application received (2015/02/10), whichever is most recent. There can be no gaps in this period of time.

We went over it, seemed we missed a date, and sent it via email.

We just received an Email again, stating the exact same message, so at this point I'm just panicking. :-X.

So I'm going over the form, and just going to ask if each question is correct.


7. Education, No mention on the Letter from CIC
-All information Seems ok for the years
-In the details the order is not specified so we start from Secondary, up untill University.

8. Personal History. Probably the section that's wrong
-10 years ago, my wife was 16, so we started since she was 18 (is more recent)
-We included personal history up untill the date we submitted the form (Feb 10th 2015), this is ok?
-Order states to start from the most recent (we started from the oldest activity) ** probably wrong will change it to start with most recent activity, in this case first activity should be, from YYYY/MM to Present or 2015/02 ?**
-We included, studies, unemployment, employment, we did not include travels. She did travel to Mexico/US to meet me about 3 times in this period. for up to two weeks each time. ** probably wrong will include travel outside of the country, if it doesnt fit, will include aditional page. **

8, 10, 11
-I put None in every non-date box as it does not apply to my wife.


12. Addresses
-Order not specified, so we started since her 18th birthday. up untill date of application submition (2015/02)

Declaration of applicant
-She signs it, and puts today's date on it.

Deliver to CIC
-I'm assuming they received the 2nd copy of this form (requested back in March 29th).
-We printed the document, signed, scanned it and sent it Via EMAIL, as per their instructions in the Letter they sent us.

it says the following.

The requested documents/information and a copy of this letter must be submitted within 30 days from the date of this letter.

Failure to provide the required documents with all required information may result in the refusal of your application for permanent residence. Should this occur, no further consideration will be given to your request for permanent residence unless a new application, including fees, is submitted.

Please send the documents/information to:

Attention: Application Advancement – INLAND SCLP

Email: CPCM-EXTCOM @ cic.gc.ca


-That means we sent every requested Doc, via Email right?

Any help or suggestions with this form I would greatly appreciate it, if you think I'm filling it right/wrong please let me know, I dont want to 2 months again, for them to tell me I filled it wrong.

Thanks! :)
Sir ask ko lang nung natanggap nyo yang email na yan may file number na po ba kayo?nuon? Kamusta na po papel nyo ngyon?
 

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09-12-2015
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vinotintazo said:
Should I start with the most recent activity as per. The application?
Yes, start from the most recent activity and work backwards until her 18th birthday or 10 years. Be thorough, no gaps and include ALL activities.

I put most recent address first and worked backwards.

Good advice above!

Speedy processing!
 
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