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I have to get my Pakistani degree evaluated from WES (I know I should have done this earlier ???). WES's website suggests that Secondary and post secondary documents be sent to them directly by the issuing institution. I have gone through HEC's website and quite understand their process of attestation and sealing the envelop.

Below is what I know the documents that need to be submitted to the HEC for the attestation of degree:

Copy of Computerized National Identity Card
Original Certificate of Matriculation
Original Certificate of Intermediate
Original transcripts and the degree

Questions: - Will they return my secondary (Metric and Inter) marksheets and the certificate?
- How long it takes to get the degree attested and sealed from HEC's Karachi office?
- Please let me know of any other information that I may have missed.

With regards to the metric and inter certificates and marksheets attestation, I have no idea what needs to be done. Do I need to submit originals or photocopies to the BISE for attestation? Please provide any relevant information.

I am researching on this forum and google to gather complete information on the entire evaluation process for a Pakistani candidate. If you know this topic has already been discussed, please drop the link below. It will be much appreciated.

Thank you in advance for your help. Good luck!
 

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Nightrocker said:
I have to get my Pakistani degree evaluated from WES (I know I should have done this earlier ???). WES's website suggests that Secondary and post secondary documents be sent to them directly by the issuing institution. I have gone through HEC's website and quite understand their process of attestation and sealing the envelop.

Below is what I know the documents that need to be submitted to the HEC for the attestation of degree:

Copy of Computerized National Identity Card
Original Certificate of Matriculation
Original Certificate of Intermediate
Original transcripts and the degree

Questions: - Will they return my secondary (Metric and Inter) marksheets and the certificate?
- How long it takes to get the degree attested and sealed from HEC's Karachi office?
- Please let me know of any other information that I may have missed.

With regards to the metric and inter certificates and marksheets attestation, I have no idea what needs to be done. Do I need to submit originals or photocopies to the BISE for attestation? Please provide any relevant information.

I am researching on this forum and google to gather complete information on the entire evaluation process for a Pakistani candidate. If you know this topic has already been discussed, please drop the link below. It will be much appreciated.

Thank you in advance for your help. Good luck!
Hello brother I am also seeking the same information, my wife she is in backhome and had done MSc in applied mathematics and BSc both degrees awarded from KU. I shall very much appreciate if you can help me how to get documents attested from HEC and does she have to attest her metric and intermediate marksheet and certificates attested from board of intermediate or everything attest by HEC?
 

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alijumani said:
Hello brother I am also seeking the same information, my wife she is in backhome and had done MSc in applied mathematics and BSc both degrees awarded from KU. I shall very much appreciate if you can help me how to get documents attested from HEC and does she have to attest her metric and intermediate marksheet and certificates attested from board of intermediate or everything attest by HEC?
 

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Hello brother I am also seeking the same information, my wife she is in backhome and had done MSc in applied mathematics and BSc both degrees awarded from KU. I shall very much appreciate if you can help me how to get documents attested from HEC and does she have to attest her metric and intermediate marksheet and certificates attested from board of intermediate or everything attest by HEC?
Hi,

Let's stick together on this forum and hopefully we will get answers. What I have learned from HEC's website is in order to get degree attested, we need to send the originals of metric and intermediate documents. I get confused here, because when I read on WES's website they ask secondary documents to be attested separately from the BISE. So I think we will need two originals of metric and intermediate documents (ones for BISE and others for HEC). This is what I think, I am not quite sure about this.

Good people of this forum please comment. :)
 

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dukhi said:
Is Wes our only option ? what about ICAS?
Their processing times are way too longer - about 8 weeks.
 

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dukhi said:
Whats the processing time of WES?
They state about 20 days on their website, and I have heard many people saying here on the forum that they got their evaluation much quicker.
 

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Nightrocker said:
I have to get my Pakistani degree evaluated from WES (I know I should have done this earlier ???). WES's website suggests that Secondary and post secondary documents be sent to them directly by the issuing institution. I have gone through HEC's website and quite understand their process of attestation and sealing the envelop.

Below is what I know the documents that need to be submitted to the HEC for the attestation of degree:

Copy of Computerized National Identity Card
Original Certificate of Matriculation
Original Certificate of Intermediate
Original transcripts and the degree

Questions: - Will they return my secondary (Metric and Inter) marksheets and the certificate?
- How long it takes to get the degree attested and sealed from HEC's Karachi office?
- Please let me know of any other information that I may have missed.

With regards to the metric and inter certificates and marksheets attestation, I have no idea what needs to be done. Do I need to submit originals or photocopies to the BISE for attestation? Please provide any relevant information.

I am researching on this forum and google to gather complete information on the entire evaluation process for a Pakistani candidate. If you know this topic has already been discussed, please drop the link below. It will be much appreciated.

Thank you in advance for your help. Good luck!

Salam brother,

let me tell you step by step process for HEC attestation and getting the documents in sealed envelope.
I have already gone through this process myself.

You need to have your:
1- NIC copy
2- Original matric certificate
3- Original inter certificate
4- Original university transcript
5- Original University degree

You also need to have two sets of photocopies for each of the above (NIC excluded)
1 set for your sealed envelope and another set for HEC records.

You have to pay the fee for original documents 800 rupees per documents. That will be 1600 rupees.
500 rupees for attestation of photocopies. That will be 1000 rupees.

If you will go to Karachi HEC , they will take it and send it to Islamabad which will take around 45-50 days. They will send by OCS courier.

If you will go directly to Islamabad, It will be done in 1 day time. I live in Karachi, and I went to Islamabad to save my 50 day time period.
for Islamabad procedure, you have to be at HEC office at around 6 am in the morning. you will see atleast 30 people sitting before you :p
you will have to write your name on the paper sheet and then office will be opened at 8am then guards will give you token number according to the list from the morning.
then you have to go in the lab to take the print out of the online information which you can enter before going to islamabad and then just login from there to take the print. you will get the REAL TOKEN number on that print out.

If you will submit the documents and fees before 10am , you will get the documents attested by 2pm. otherwise they will drag you till 5 pm.


NOW lets talk about matric and inter documents attestations.

You DO NOT need to have these documents attested for HEC.
But it is good to have these documents attested for you application. Main attestation authority is IBCC (Inter board of chairman committee)
both matric and inter documents will be attested by IBCC.

Steps to Follow:
you have to go to matric board office first with photocopies of both marksheet and certificate. a form has to be filled with your details. take you NIC copies with you. Fees I beleive is 200 rupees. I actually forgot. but it is around 200 or 300 rupees.

officially you will get it back in 15 days. when collecting you can ask the guy to have it sealed with stamp on it.

Then you can go to inter board on the same day to get your inter marksheet and certs attested. you have to fill the form there too wiht your NIC photocopy and documents both marksheet and certificate. rooms are different for both submissions. they will also give you 15 days time officially.
certificate will be delivered to IBCC directly by inter board. you have to collect marksheet by yourself.

you can use Khaancha system in both matric and inter board to get the docs a bit early.

Now its to time submit the docs to IBCC.

collect the documents from matric board in sealed envelope. then go to inter board to get the marksheet.

IBCC office is in inter board area but a different building.

take all the documents original too with you along with your NIC and two passport size photos (it is must).

take the form from the counter fill it and then pay the fees and come back to submit the documents with the payment receipt.

you will get he documents back in 4 or 5 days time.

Simple isnt it :) :D
I went through all this pain from these government offices. I can tell you to take each and every document with you every time you go there. carry as much photocopies as possible with you all the time.

Take care and Best of Luck !! :)
 

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dukhi said:
Is Wes our only option ? what about ICAS?
ICAS took 4 months and 1 week to get my ECA done. my univ was not listed in WES that is why I have to go to ICAS.

now ICAS is taking 5 months. it is officially written on their website.
 

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W/salam man,

Thank you so much for the detailed answer. Words can't describe how much I appreciate your efforts.

I have a few follow-up questions - please see below in red.

HaiderRashid said:
Salam brother,

let me tell you step by step process for HEC attestation and getting the documents in sealed envelope.
I have already gone through this process myself.

You need to have your:
1- NIC copy
2- Original matric certificate
3- Original inter certificate
4- Original university transcript
5- Original University degree

You also need to have two sets of photocopies for each of the above (NIC excluded)
1 set for your sealed envelope and another set for HEC records.

You have to pay the fee for original documents 800 rupees per documents. That will be 1600 rupees.
500 rupees for attestation of photocopies. That will be 1000 rupees.

If you will go to Karachi HEC , they will take it and send it to Islamabad which will take around 45-50 days. They will send by OCS courier.

If you will go directly to Islamabad, It will be done in 1 day time. I live in Karachi, and I went to Islamabad to save my 50 day time period.
for Islamabad procedure, you have to be at HEC office at around 6 am in the morning. you will see atleast 30 people sitting before you :p
you will have to write your name on the paper sheet and then office will be opened at 8am then guards will give you token number according to the list from the morning.
then you have to go in the lab to take the print out of the online information which you can enter before going to islamabad and then just login from there to take the print. you will get the REAL TOKEN number on that print out.

If you will submit the documents and fees before 10am , you will get the documents attested by 2pm. otherwise they will drag you till 5 pm.

"Also, WES's website says "You may have photocopies of your original Degree Certificates and Marks Sheet/Result Card attested by the HEC sent directly to WES by the HEC. - Can I do this to avoid the process of going to Islamabad and getting it sealed from there?"

Also, does HEC keep the Metric and Intermediate's documents or they just look at them for verification? Can I have them attested from Board office and IBCC and then take them to HEC?


NOW lets talk about matric and inter documents attestations.

You DO NOT need to have these documents attested for HEC.
But it is good to have these documents attested for you application. Main attestation authority is IBCC (Inter board of chairman committee)
both matric and inter documents will be attested by IBCC.

Steps to Follow:
you have to go to matric board office first with photocopies of both marksheet and certificate. a form has to be filled with your details. take you NIC copies with you. Fees I beleive is 200 rupees. I actually forgot. but it is around 200 or 300 rupees.

I don't need originals at this point?


officially you will get it back in 15 days. when collecting you can ask the guy to have it sealed with stamp on it.

Then you can go to inter board on the same day to get your inter marksheet and certs attested. you have to fill the form there too wiht your NIC photocopy and documents both marksheet and certificate. rooms are different for both submissions. they will also give you 15 days time officially.
certificate will be delivered to IBCC directly by inter board. you have to collect marksheet by yourself.

you can use Khaancha system in both matric and inter board to get the docs a bit early.

Now its to time submit the docs to IBCC. (I didn't see any information WES's website about IBCC?)

collect the documents from matric board in sealed envelope. then go to inter board to get the marksheet.
That means I have to have TWO sets of ORIGINALS of metric and inter's marksheets and certificates (one set for HEC and one set for IBCC)?


IBCC office is in inter board area but a different building.

take all the documents original too with you along with your NIC and two passport size photos (it is must).


take the form from the counter fill it and then pay the fees and come back to submit the documents with the payment receipt.

you will get he documents back in 4 or 5 days time.

Simple isnt it :) :D
I went through all this pain from these government offices. I can tell you to take each and every document with you every time you go there. carry as much photocopies as possible with you all the time.

Take care and Best of Luck !! :)
Again thanks for your help.
 

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Nightrocker said:
Salam brother,

let me tell you step by step process for HEC attestation and getting the documents in sealed envelope.
I have already gone through this process myself.

You need to have your:
1- NIC copy
2- Original matric certificate
3- Original inter certificate
4- Original university transcript
5- Original University degree

You also need to have two sets of photocopies for each of the above (NIC excluded)
1 set for your sealed envelope and another set for HEC records.

You have to pay the fee for original documents 800 rupees per documents. That will be 1600 rupees.
500 rupees for attestation of photocopies. That will be 1000 rupees.

If you will go to Karachi HEC , they will take it and send it to Islamabad which will take around 45-50 days. They will send by OCS courier.

If you will go directly to Islamabad, It will be done in 1 day time. I live in Karachi, and I went to Islamabad to save my 50 day time period.
for Islamabad procedure, you have to be at HEC office at around 6 am in the morning. you will see atleast 30 people sitting before you Tongue
you will have to write your name on the paper sheet and then office will be opened at 8am then guards will give you token number according to the list from the morning.
then you have to go in the lab to take the print out of the online information which you can enter before going to islamabad and then just login from there to take the print. you will get the REAL TOKEN number on that print out.

If you will submit the documents and fees before 10am , you will get the documents attested by 2pm. otherwise they will drag you till 5 pm.

"Also, WES's website says "You may have photocopies of your original Degree Certificates and Marks Sheet/Result Card attested by the HEC sent directly to WES by the HEC. - Can I do this to avoid the process of going to Islamabad and getting it sealed from there?"

Photocopies cannot be attested before originals at HEC. Originals need to be attested first then they attest photocopies. so, In any case you have to attest the originals.


Also, does HEC keep the Metric and Intermediate's documents or they just look at them for verification? Can I have them attested from Board office and IBCC and then take them to HEC?



HEC take matric and inter documents just for verification. they return them on the same day along with the attested docs.

HEC doesnt need attested matric and inter docs for attestation. if you donot have matric and inter CERTIFICATES, then your marksheets should be attested by IBCC to have your university's docs attested. otherwise if you have the original certificates, HEC doesnt need attested matric/inter docs.

it will be a waste of time if you go to matric/inter board before HEC. you can do that after HEC's attestation as well.

I am not aware of WEC's requirement as I sent my docs to ICAS..


NOW lets talk about matric and inter documents attestations.

You DO NOT need to have these documents attested for HEC.
But it is good to have these documents attested for you application. Main attestation authority is IBCC (Inter board of chairman committee)
both matric and inter documents will be attested by IBCC.

Steps to Follow:
you have to go to matric board office first with photocopies of both marksheet and certificate. a form has to be filled with your details. take you NIC copies with you. Fees I beleive is 200 rupees. I actually forgot. but it is around 200 or 300 rupees.

I don't need originals at this point?


No need for originals. but my suggestion will be that you should keep your originals with you all the time. they are govnt employees and no body knows their mood. So better to take the originals with you just to show them. They will not keep them.

IBCC will take the originals as they will attest on back on original documents. So if you have a hard lamination on the documents, you will need to remove it otherwise they will not attest it.

officially you will get it back in 15 days. when collecting you can ask the guy to have it sealed with stamp on it.

Then you can go to inter board on the same day to get your inter marksheet and certs attested. you have to fill the form there too wiht your NIC photocopy and documents both marksheet and certificate. rooms are different for both submissions. they will also give you 15 days time officially.
certificate will be delivered to IBCC directly by inter board. you have to collect marksheet by yourself.

you can use Khaancha system in both matric and inter board to get the docs a bit early.

Now its to time submit the docs to IBCC. (I didn't see any information WES's website about IBCC?)

collect the documents from matric board in sealed envelope. then go to inter board to get the marksheet.
That means I have to have TWO sets of ORIGINALS of metric and inter's marksheets and certificates (one set for HEC and one set for IBCC)?

IBCC office is in inter board area but a different building.

take all the documents original too with you along with your NIC and two passport size photos (it is must).


take the form from the counter fill it and then pay the fees and come back to submit the documents with the payment receipt.

you will get he documents back in 4 or 5 days time.

Simple isnt it
I went through all this pain from these government offices. I can tell you to take each and every document with you every time you go there. carry as much photocopies as possible with you all the time.

Take care and Best of Luck !!
 

HaiderRashid

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mpjaved said:
Dears HEC told me to only submit the docuemnts to them not to board. is it ok if I get all dcouments attested by HEC only and not by FBISE and BISC Peshawar for matric and FSC
Salam brother,

HEC attest educational documents starting from your bachelors degree. They donot attest matric/inter documents.
 

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