Guidance on Including an Adult Dependent Child in PR Application

[prince2019]

I need some help on how to include my adult dependent child in my PR application and complete the online forms correctly.

My elder child is 23 years old and was 21 when I submitted my PNP application. My child is financially dependent on me and meets the eligibility criteria to be included as a dependent child.

However, the online form only asks whether the child is financially dependent due to a disability. Selecting “No” excludes him from my application, while selecting “Yes” includes him, although his dependency is not disability-related.

Can anyone please advise me on the appropriate steps to include my child in my PR application?

Thank you for your help

 

[Naturgrl]

How is child dependant other than be financially dependant? You say child meets criteria. Being financially dependant on its own doesn't mean your child is eligible.

Children 22 or older qualify as dependants if they

• have depended on their parents for financial support since before they were 22 and
• can’t financially support themselves because of a mental or physical condition

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...ge-limit-requirements-dependent-children.html

 

[canuck78]

I need some help on how to include my adult dependent child in my PR application and complete the online forms correctly.

My elder child is 23 years old and was 21 when I submitted my PNP application. My child is financially dependent on me and meets the eligibility criteria to be included as a dependent child.

However, the online form only asks whether the child is financially dependent due to a disability. Selecting “No” excludes him from my application, while selecting “Yes” includes him, although his dependency is not disability-related.

Can anyone please advise me on the appropriate steps to include my child in my PR application?

Thank you for your help

What age was you child when you got AOR? Adult dependents are an extremely specific group which consists of mostly children who will never be able to live independently due to an intellectual disability, have a severe/complex physical disability where living outside the family home will likely never be possible, suffer from a severe psychiatric issue like schizophrenia, etc. Many are under the false assumption that this category includes children who are still studying, children who are only working part-time or not at all or whose salaries are not high enough to support their costs, etc. These children will have to qualify for PR on their own if they can even if their parents are still providing some financial support to them. If a child has high needs that qualify them to be included as an adult dependent families need to look very carefully at how much caregiving and financial support their child may get in Canada and whether it makes sense to move to Canada. Many may be shocked to find that after age 21 there is limited support for many of these adults. The wait list to get into group homes is decades and is increasing as demand increases. After age 21 and school ends one parent often ends up having to be the primary caregiver unless the family is quite wealthy and can pay out of pocket for a care in the home. If families are moving to Canada and leaving extended family or longterm friends they may have limited support and extra help in Canada which is very difficult. If the adult has a care team where they currently live it may be difficult to replace the same team in Canada. The cost of care may be much higher in Canada versus where they are currently living and what is and isn’t covered may be quite different in Canada. If the adult is suffering from a severe mental illness the laws around family requesting that their child be placed in hospital against their will may also be very different in Canada versus their current location. In Canada it is very hard to have someone committed against their will even if they are need of help. These are some of the things that need to be considered when deciding if moving to Canada is a good option. Canada has partial Medicare and the system is very overwhelmed. There are many children who are getting to middle aged who have been cared for mainly at home even if it has been a less than ideal situation and many parents have no options as they age or as the needs of their children increase. Paying for care is very expensive and out of reach for most families.

 

[prince2019]

How is child dependant other than be financially dependant? You say child meets criteria. Being financially dependant on its own doesn't mean your child is eligible.

Children 22 or older qualify as dependants if they

• have depended on their parents for financial support since before they were 22 and
• can’t financially support themselves because of a mental or physical condition

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...ge-limit-requirements-dependent-children.html

Hi @Naturgrl

Thank you so much for your response. I really appreciate your help.

Point 1: Financial Dependency

My son is financially dependent on me while pursuing his undergraduate degree in Canada on a WP. I pay his tuition fees and all his other expenses. Thankfully, he does not have any disability.

Point 2: Dependent Child Eligibility

Based on IRCC’s guidelines, he qualifies as a dependent child. The link you shared mentions the “age lock-in date,” which I understand to be the date I submitted my PNP application, when he was 21.

I also checked the IRCC Dependent Child Age Tool by , I choose Program: Provincial Nominee, Province received my nomination: After Oct 2017, Childs age when applied for province: 21 years and under and not married. The result indicates that he qualifies as a Type A dependent.

Point 3: Including Him in My PR Application

My main concern is how to include him in my online PR application, as I cannot find a suitable option in the form. Could you please guide me on the correct steps to add him as my dependent child?

Thank you again for your time and support. I would be very grateful for any guidance you can share.

 

[prince2019]

What age was you child when you got AOR? Adult dependents are an extremely specific group which consists of mostly children who will never be able to live independently due to an intellectual disability, have a severe/complex physical disability where living outside the family home will likely never be possible, suffer from a severe psychiatric issue like schizophrenia, etc. Many are under the false assumption that this category includes children who are still studying, children who are only working part-time or not at all or whose salaries are not high enough to support their costs, etc. These children will have to qualify for PR on their own if they can even if their parents are still providing some financial support to them. If a child has high needs that qualify them to be included as an adult dependent families need to look very carefully at how much caregiving and financial support their child may get in Canada and whether it makes sense to move to Canada. Many may be shocked to find that after age 21 there is limited support for many of these adults. The wait list to get into group homes is decades and is increasing as demand increases. After age 21 and school ends one parent often ends up having to be the primary caregiver unless the family is quite wealthy and can pay out of pocket for a care in the home. If families are moving to Canada and leaving extended family or longterm friends they may have limited support and extra help in Canada which is very difficult. If the adult has a care team where they currently live it may be difficult to replace the same team in Canada. The cost of care may be much higher in Canada versus where they are currently living and what is and isn’t covered may be quite different in Canada. If the adult is suffering from a severe mental illness the laws around family requesting that their child be placed in hospital against their will may also be very different in Canada versus their current location. In Canada it is very hard to have someone committed against their will even if they are need of help. These are some of the things that need to be considered when deciding if moving to Canada is a good option. Canada has partial Medicare and the system is very overwhelmed. There are many children who are getting to middle aged who have been cared for mainly at home even if it has been a less than ideal situation and many parents have no options as they age or as the needs of their children increase. Paying for care is very expensive and out of reach for most families.

Hi @canuck78,

Thank you so much for your response and for taking the time to guide me. I really appreciate the detail.

My son by God’s Grace does not have any disability. He is financially dependent on me while pursuing his undergraduate degree in Canada on a WP. I pay his tuition fees and all his other expenses.

Based on IRCC guidelines he qualifies as a Type A dependant child.

My concern is how to update the same in my PR Application.

Thank you again for your time and support. I am thankful for any guidance you can share

Regards

 

[canuck78]

Hi @canuck78,

Thank you so much for your response and for taking the time to guide me. I really appreciate the detail.

My son by God’s Grace does not have any disability. He is financially dependent on me while pursuing his undergraduate degree in Canada on a WP. I pay his tuition fees and all his other expenses.

Based on IRCC guidelines he qualifies as a Type A dependant child.

My concern is how to update the same in my PR Application.

Thank you again for your time and support. I am thankful for any guidance you can share

Regards

Update what? He should have been part of your original application.

 

[prince2019]

Update what? He should have been part of your original application.

This is my initial application after receiving ITA for PR.

When I had created my EE profile I declared that I have two children

Similarly in my PNP application, I had mentioned all details of both my children and both are listed by names in my PNP nomination letter.

My dilemma is how to include him in my PR application.

I have already submitted a webform to IRCC seeking clarification, but I have not yet received a response.