All these will not solve any problem, the only thing is for canada to learn how to process application fast and equally secure their border. Some years back,they canceled applications as they are proposing right now,what was the result?If you process application for 8years,what result are you going to get when the applications are still on going?It's better you stop receiving applications and process the ones you have rapidly and also control your border. Cabada process tourist visa in some countries for one to two years,what UK process within 2 to 3weeks.the canada immigration system need. to be overhaul, it's their internal problem,not the volume of applications,compared to other countries of the world.
Urgent: Sudden Increase in PR Processing Times for Refugees and Protected Persons (Up to 99 Months!)
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Asylum should always be the last option for people. People think it is an easier route but many may have been better off applying for economic immigration. That said refugees and asylum seekers do receive a lot of benefits compared to economic immigrants. The primary focus of seeking asylum and for refugees is safety not economic benefit, faster processing, etc. Claiming asylum, being a refugee/protected person has always had some major consequences even if approved.
You could always consider abandoning your status in Canada if you knew you could get PR via an economic pathway if that is faster. Would speak to your lawyer. Your wife should also write her licensing exams while still in Egypt.
Pretty sure this is a troll account. Hard to keep track at this point they have so many accounts.
If a refugee claimant abandon their regugee application, they would have to leave Canada. If I had the option of switching while still remaining in Canada, I would have done that years ago. I tried sponsoring my wife for study. I had all the money required and showed more than enough proof of funds but they denied her saying she will not go back at the end of her studies based on my situation. Can you imagine. I paid school fees in full. Yet most people that applied with less proof of funds were still giving visa. I even added the school policy of no refund of school fees if granted visa. Is that fair ?
So my wife cant get an education in Canada because of me evem though she has enough POF??
Yes I was suggesting that some people could consider leaving since I know that not everyone who has received protected person status is genuine refugee/protected person and may be able to return to their country without risking their life. A study permit is a temporary permit while you are applying for PR with her as a dependent so she isn’t planning on being a temporary resident. Also plenty of people who would claim asylum themselves on arrival or not study and lose their deposit. I have suggested many times that protected people and refugees may want to approach the government or take the government to see if they can obtain faster family reunification. For the highest chances of success with the government a proposal should probably require proof of funds & employment and focus on family reunification after a certain period of time or after completion of a certain part of processing. Canada goal is to reduce the volume of temporary residents partially because of the strain on infrastructure so family reunification also creates issues because of the volume of refugees and protected people who will want to reunite with their dependents. There is no easy solution. Canada welcomed too many asylum seekers and refugees in a short period of time but the people who benefited from Canada’s doors being wide open are now facing long processing times. Not sure why the government didn’t do some basic longterm planning. Everyone could have predicted this would happen and many were alarmed that no changes were being made. In fairness Marc Miller apparently wanted to make some changes around a year ago but apparently was overruled. What a mess!
Some friends are looking at this issue from a very unfair perspective and are probably revealing their conservative political views. The issue is not about returning to the country of origin, a real refugee would not have such a concern anyway. The issue here is one of predictability. The application should be finalized within the average processing time when applying because there is a notion called legitimate expectation. Every you extend the application beyond reasonable limits, you are exposing the applicant to the risk of inadmissibility. However, if the PR is finalized within a reasonable time, the applicant will become a citizen within a reasonable time and there will be no risk of inadmissibility. All of these unreasonable delays may be subject to litigation in federal court.
Another point is that a serious and big country like Canada should not change the rules of the game while the match is playing. Such unexpected changes should only occur if they are in the applicant's best interest. For example, there is no rational side to extend the application of someone who has been waiting for a PR for 24 months for another 24 months. These are changes that are entirely about surrendering to Trump policies. What a state should do is not to consider mass cancellation, but to consider mass approval to be able to dissolve the backlog if necessary. Because the backlog is an administrative issue, one that the state must resolve. The cost of this cannot be passed on to the applicant.
I send my greetings to everyone..
Another point is that a serious and big country like Canada should not change the rules of the game while the match is playing. Such unexpected changes should only occur if they are in the applicant's best interest. For example, there is no rational side to extend the application of someone who has been waiting for a PR for 24 months for another 24 months. These are changes that are entirely about surrendering to Trump policies. What a state should do is not to consider mass cancellation, but to consider mass approval to be able to dissolve the backlog if necessary. Because the backlog is an administrative issue, one that the state must resolve. The cost of this cannot be passed on to the applicant.
I send my greetings to everyone..
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They are not considering mass cancellation of either protected people or asylum claimants. The immigration target plans haven’t changed dramatically so the processing times increasing weee fairly evident if you did the math. Wish IRCC had implemented this updated processing time system. The previous one was often incorrect when it came to processing times for various programs, permits, visas. People are free to take the government to court and people regularly file a Writ of Mandamus if their processing times are significantly longer than others going through the same process at the same time. This has very little to do with Trump except for fear that US immigration policies will continue to push more people seeking asylum towards Canada and Trump’s policies pushing us further into economic difficulty. Not a conservative many who are now calling for no immigration. Most Canadians want more measured data driven decision when it comes to immigration. We wouldn’t be in this position if the previous government had been more responsible. IRCC did batch approvals for TRVs at a certain point, didn’t cancel visa free status for Mexicans even as asylum claims from Mexico were skyrocketing, etc. all policies that contributed to backlogs we have today. A mass approval would be not responsible or data driven decision. Government policies around immigration in most countries are always changing because most countries make immigration decisions based on the best interests of their country and need to be able to adjust to country conditions like labour needs/unemployment rates, ageing population, infrastructure capacity like housing, schools, healthcare, etc. which wasn’t done under Trudeau. At a committee meeting last week on immigration it became clear that various healthcare organizations had never been contacted to determine the level of immigration that the HC system could absorb while Canada was increasing immigration by millions. I assume neither were school boards/provincial education ministers. It is going to take 5-10 years to get the immigration system functioning properly. Would add that if you look at other countries Canada remains very welcoming and changes being proposed are a lot less severe.
When I say mass approval, I don't mean TRV or anything else. However, the backlog in the protected person category, which already has been in Canada for years and has an approval rate of around 95%, can certainly be addressed. What's the point of making people wait longer in this category, which has a very high approval rate? At the very least, the government should find a way to address the backlog of applications for 2023-2024!
If there's a 137k-person backlog, it's the state's responsibility to resolve it. It's not a fair approach to say, "You're going to get PR anyway, so wait 7-8 years."
Let them process 137k application for 8years, instead of working on their administrative lapses, they are complaining of backlog,given different excuses and some people will come here defending Ircc.
Exactly; there's nothing logical or defensible here. If there's a backlog, it's the government's responsibility to resolve it. There are quotas, and we're lowering them so saying them wait 7-8 years isn't fair.
Furthermore, technically, if you're changing a rule or making a major change, you should only be able to apply it to new applications. You can't apply such major changes to applications that have already been processed for a long time. If there's any justice, these issues need to be resolved somehow.
Furthermore, if there's a backlog, to address this issue, you need to increase quotas, even if just once, or perhaps not impose quotas on people already in Canada.
It's also important to note that Bill C-2 and Bill C-12 are deeply flawed bill proposals. No government in any country should be granted such sweeping powers. Such bills may be usual for Middle Eastern countries, but they are not right for Canada.
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The spouse can certainly try applying for a TRV. Generally speaking, the chances of the TRV being approved are low. But no harm trying.
There no chance IRCC is going to increase PR quotas, eliminate quotas, etc. for all forms of PRs, protected people and their dependents. It was the government’s responsibility to try to minimize how many were arriving in Canada and claiming asylum and to limit the size of refugee programs coming from abroad. The JT government made it easier to get to Canada and had large refugee programs. The consequence is now the many who benefited from easier access to Canada are going to have to wait longer to get PR. There are also no changes the previous processing time page was based on backwards looking data. If you had looked at the raw data (number of applications and the yearly PR quota) the processing times were evident which is why I have been pointing out the processing times will continue to get longer for at least a year. The processing times have increased because more people applied. It is pure math.
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