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Hi all,

I made a soft landing in Vancouver on 15 Sep and went back to my home country 10 days later. Now I'm thinking about applying for PRTD to go back. However, as a new immigrant, there is no way I could comply with residency obligation. In fact, I only stayed 10 days in the country. In this case, can I still apply for PRTD? Any advice would be helpful ,thanks!
 
Hi all,

I made a soft landing in Vancouver on 15 Sep and went back to my home country 10 days later. Now I'm thinking about applying for PRTD to go back. However, as a new immigrant, there is no way I could comply with residency obligation. In fact, I only stayed 10 days in the country. In this case, can I still apply for PRTD? Any advice would be helpful ,thanks!
Of course you can. This scenario is not unusual. Read the application and instructions and apply.

When you do, you'll see that you are in compliance because you've not been out of Canada more than 1095 days since you (recently) became a PR.

Simplest short rephrasing of the residency obligation:
-A PR is IN compliance with the residency obligation if they have been OUTSIDE Canada LESS than 1095 days in the last five years (on any day, including the date of applying for a PRTD), but not counting any days before becoming a PR.

The opposite reformulation is also true: a PR is OUT of compliance if OUTSIDE Canada MORE than 1095 days in the last five years (as of the day of evaluation), but not counting/discarding any days before becoming a PR (i.e. if a PR for less than five years).

(Rephrasing this as days outside Canada instead of days inside Canada is just arithmetic, and is the method used on the PRTD form. If you prefer a word formulation somewhat-like the legislation/regulations, you get 'credit' for days remaining in your first five year period, as if those days remaining were in Canada. My restatement above has the same effect - by excluding days before you became a PR - but avoids the weirdness of counting days in the future.)
 
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Of course you can. This scenario is not unusual. Read the application and instructions and apply.

When you do, you'll see that you are in compliance because you've not been out of Canada more than 1095 days since you (recently) became a PR.

Simplest short rephrasing of the residency obligation:
-A PR is IN compliance with the residency obligation if they have been OUTSIDE Canada LESS than 1095 days in the last five years (on any day, including the date of applying for a PRTD), but not counting any days before becoming a PR.

The opposite reformulation is also true: a PR is OUT of compliance if OUTSIDE Canada MORE than 1095 days in the last five years (as of the day of evaluation), but not counting/discarding any days before becoming a PR (i.e. if a PR for less than five years).

(Rephrasing this as days outside Canada instead of days inside Canada is just arithmetic, and is the method used on the PRTD form. If you prefer a word formulation somewhat-like the legislation/regulations, you get 'credit' for days remaining in your first five year period, as if those days remaining were in Canada. My restatement above has the same effect - by excluding days before you became a PR - but avoids the weirdness of counting days in the future.)
Thank you for such a detailed response. It wiped out my anxiety about PRTD.

I just called IRCC (the call went through, to my surprise) and was told that my card had been mailed out on Sep 29 (despite no email or gckey updates). So hopefully I wouldn’t be needing prtd, fingers crossed. Thanks again.
 
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