Yes, you should have received it. But I’ve been hearing lately that some applicants do not receive it unfortunately
H&C Humanitarian Ground with/or Without Failed refugee claim
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Thanks! Well, at least there is some update on it.
It's odd that I still don't AOR, even after message on the phone has changed. I'd prefer this real application number to submit any updates tho.
Do you know what is my approx timeline after this message? Or until background check there is no timelines? Do we get this background before or after stage 1 ?
Thanks.
Please ignore this spammer. AOR is taking around 5 months. It is currently taking around a year after that to have your file assigned to an officer but given the backlog that could be years by the time your application makes it to the front of the queue.
Do not miss informed them. Applications submitted earlier this year received it in less than two months.
That is what I cannot tell you. It honestly depends on how the filtering office rated your applications urgency. May I suggest that you call IRCC and see if you can obtain your permanent application number and explain that you did not receive your AOR. It also depends on the information and documents which you submitted. It can take some background checks longer for some individuals depending on your nationality and where you have resided.
This is ordinary message when file was recently received and even after AOR you will hear same thing. When you hear automated message (we are processing your background check), that means your file is in process and assigned to officer. My application is at 13 months and still not in process. You have long time ahead.Hi everyone,
I've got a question regarding my application and I would appreciate any help understanding the status of my application
I've submitted my application online at the beginning of the June. (I did turn ON email notifications) Haven't received AOR.
After a while I called IRCC and they said they received it, but no one opened the file yet and processing has not yet began. (Which explained why there is no AOR) They also gave me a temporary application number, which I could use when I call them next time. Since it is temporary number, I had two letters at the beginning instead of usual one (XH at the beginning)
Follow up to Mid-End of July. I called the number to get a robot response on the phone regarding my status by entering my application number. It didn't came through as there is no valid application type that starts with X, so I decided to proceed with H and entered the rest of my application number - Success, the system found it, and then said the same as the agent before, they received it but have not reviewed and began processing.
Closer to mid August, did the same check up through the phone but my application disappeared. (System couldn't find the application with this number anymore)
However, today I did the same and it got recognized again, but this time with a different message, (Reminder, the first one was that they received it but has not yet reviewed and began processing it)
This one said the following:
The application status you'll hear based on the most recent information available.
Application was received on June #, if we need more information from you, or once the final decision has been made, we will contact you
System said,
We are reviewing if you meet eligibility requirements
we do not need additional documents
You do not need a medical exam, we will send you a message if this changes
you do not need interview.
we do not need your fingerprints, we will send you a message if this changes
Based on that, where is my application? Because I've read that those messages mean a lot. (Still haven't got AOR, more than 2 months, nothing online, nothing on the portal.) Thanks.
Your profile has been submitted for 13 months and you still do not hear “ we are processing your background check”? May I ask what the system says about your background check then?
The question I keep asking myself is this: if thousands, maybe even tens of thousands, of visitors have their extension requests refused, does the government really believe they will all just leave? Or will they actually send patrols to people’s homes to deport them?
the Canadian government is only making the situation worse. It makes no sense. I have never seen the Canadian immigration system as dysfunctional as it has been in recent years. It was definitely not like this before 2015.
There are thousands of asylum cases that have been waiting for years. The same thing happens with humanitarian applications, often sent with thousands of pages that applicants really think officers are going to read. International students who graduate in Canada also struggle to get permanent residency because of the strange point system in many immigration programs. Sometimes the system even gives priority to people abroad, who know nothing about Canada, over those already living here. The justification is that their skills from abroad matter, but often those skills are not even recognized in Canada. On top of that, many of them face real difficulties integrating.
We also see abuse of social assistance, housing help, and other programs.
In Quebec, the CAQ government wants to make the province look like a country inside a country, insisting on a cultural difference that in reality is mostly just about language.
Another problem is the conditions for getting study or work permits, especially the rule that applicants must convince an officer they will leave Canada after their program ends. How is that realistic? After investing tens of thousands of dollars, living, working, and building relationships here, do they really think people will just walk away? Not all students or workers come from rich, stable countries. Expecting them to return home so easily is completely disconnected from reality.
On top of that, the federal level and especially IRCC make everyone, both foreigners and Canadians, wonder what they are doing. A recent article even said some employees were spending their time watching Netflix.
I also wonder why countries that receive a lot of immigration, like Germany or the Nordic countries, do not seem to have the same problems. I am not an expert in public policy, but the difference is quite clear....
Yes, it is not in process yet. It seems 24 months processing time is for AIP only. For PR it will take 3 years at least, possibly longer. I believe whoever plans quota numbers for H and C program is not in touch with reality. What ideally needs to happen is that IRCC would remove all cases which do not typically qualify for this program from the backlog, particularly, parent/grandparent cases, and applications from stable countries who will not face hardship if removed.
Countries like Germany and Sweden experiencing their own significant immigration issues. Yes Canada expects that people will leave or they will try to make it uncomfortable to remain or remove people. We have already seen tactics that are supposed to entice people to self-deport. Various levels of government lost their minds when it came to immigration for almost a decade and sadly many are going to face some life-altering consequences. You clearly have not lived in Canada long enough if you think separatist sentiment and focus on French is a new issue.
The issue is H&C was never meant to provide a path to PR for a large group of people. What should have happened is limiting who could apply a long time ago even if some genuine H&C cases would no longer qualify. Also removing people faster so there isn’t an ability to apply multiple times or limit how many times you can apply after a refusal to 5-10 yrs for example. When doing immigration planning economic immigration and family sponsorship (spouse and dependent children) make up the largest portion of PR quotas. Multiple groups then have to compete for whatever quota is leftover. It makes no sense to reduce quota for the 2 main priorities to increase target for refugees, protected people, H&C and PGP, etc. The answer was to let less people enter Canada, have prevented families from joining a large portion of temporary residents (now back in place) to create less ties to Canada, decrease supervisa length and stop extensions (should happen but would be very unpopular), tighten TRV vetting to limit visitors who have no intention of returning home, put PGP on pause but also prevent parents from applying for H&C (also very unpopular), etc. Drastic measures are are needed to get our immigration back on track in the shortest amount of time although still looking at 5-20 years.
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Hi guys i am happy to inform you all that we finally received our ecopr, its been a long journey but its all joy in the end i pray for those still waiting for this that God will make yours come soonest in Jesus name. My timeline is below:
Applied on Feb 2nd 2022
Aip received Sept 13, 2024
Ecopr August 15, 2025
Applied on Feb 2nd 2022
Aip received Sept 13, 2024
Ecopr August 15, 2025
I know Canadian history quite well, even better than some native Canadians. The difference between Quebec and the other provinces is mostly just the language. Religion used to be a factor too, when most English-speaking provinces were Protestant and Quebec was Catholic, but that has changed. Other provinces gradually became more Catholic as well, and then religion became less important, especially in Quebec during the Quiet Revolution which changed the french Canadian identity to the québécoise one for Quebec..
The 2 cities that really stand out are Quebec City (better than Montreal) and Montreal . Otherwise, Quebec suburbs are much like other Canadian and North American suburbs in general. The lifestyle, cultural references which are increasingly globalized, (thankfully) and the systems people live under are very similar.
Some people like to say that Quebec is more social-democratic than the other provinces, which are supposedly more American-style capitalist, but this is mostly an economic difference rather than a cultural one. It shouldn’t be generalized either, because Canada as a whole is social-democratic and less capitalist than the United States, for example.
I would also add that separatist and sovereignist dont mean the same thing. A separatist wants to separate from Canada but a sovereignist in Quebec context is someone who prioritizes their Quebec identity over their attachment to Canada they are Quebecois first, Canadian second. (Even if every Canadian or every province has its own specificities not just La belle province de René Lévesque....)
Regarding immigration issues in Canada compared to other countries, I find that it’s only here that processing times are so long. More than a year of processing why? Two or Three years for h&c Let’s calculate the number of working days times three… what on earth are they doing?! I also want to emphasize that this toughening of rules that the Canadian government claims to apply is either a populist strategy to calm anti-immigration sentimentwhich can make sense as long as it isn’t racist or reactionaryor government advisors just want to completely mess up society here. Toughening rules overnight will only have the opposite effect. This isn’t the United States, which has a long history of strict and complex immigration laws influenced by its ideological climate.
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