Parents and Grandparents - 2025 - PR Card already

[asaeed100]

hi all

we have been invited to apply for my parents
we have a unique situation as follows

1) my parents are already PR since 2004, however they are out of status - their last visit to Canada was in 2010 - will filling an P& G application for them start a revocation process by the IRCC automatically? and thus ruining any chances for any H&C application in future - if i apply for one of them, will IRCC revoke PR status for both? or is it better one of them revoke his/her PR while the application is under process?

2) my income may not be enough to full fill the min. income requirements - however I have considerable amount of money in cash. will it count?

kindly advise

 

[canuck78]

hi all

we have been invited to apply for my parents
we have a unique situation as follows

1) my parents are already PR since 2004, however they are out of status - their last visit to Canada was in 2010 - will filling an P& G application for them start a revocation process by the IRCC automatically? and thus ruining any chances for any H&C application in future - if i apply for one of them, will IRCC revoke PR status for both? or is it better one of them revoke his/her PR while the application is under process?

2) my income may not be enough to full fill the min. income requirements - however I have considerable amount of money in cash. will it count?

kindly advise

1. If they have been out of Canada for 15 years it will be very tough to claim they gave an H&C reason for not meeting their RO. They have to renounce their PR in order to qualify for PGP. Both parents must be included on the application.

2. NOA is what counts not cash in the bank. You should already be aware whether you have met LICO since when you submitted EOI in 2020.

 

[Copingwithlife]

hi all

we have been invited to apply for my parents
we have a unique situation as follows

1) my parents are already PR since 2004, however they are out of status - their last visit to Canada was in 2010 - will filling an P& G application for them start a revocation process by the IRCC automatically? and thus ruining any chances for any H&C application in future - if i apply for one of them, will IRCC revoke PR status for both? or is it better one of them revoke his/her PR while the application is under process?

2) my income may not be enough to full fill the min. income requirements - however I have considerable amount of money in cash. will it count?

kindly advise

Come on now
There last was 15 years ago and suddenly pulling the HC out of the hat ?

That’s ridiculous

https://ircc.canada.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=1445&top=14

And NO WHERE does it state in the link readily available online does it say cash in the bank counts

The sponsor and the co-signer (if there is one) must each submit 3 notices of assessment, or equivalent documents, issued by the minister of National Revenue. The assessments must be for the 3 tax years immediately before the date we receive the application.

 

[asaeed100]

thank you for taking out to reply
but are you here to answer or judge me?
are parents breaking rule or a law, if they apply for H&C or enter via US?
submissions of assessments are okay
is it not upto to IRCC to decide whether a person can sponsor and support his parents

if the income is 60k per year with zero savings for the last three years.
but you can show half a mil, will they consider - that is the question

what about the part about revoking of PR if they reject the applicatiob

thanks

 

[asaeed100]

1. If they have been out of Canada for 15 years it will be very tough to claim they gave an H&C reason for not meeting their RO. They have to renounce their PR in order to qualify for PGP. Both parents must be included on the application.

2. NOA is what counts not cash in the bank. You should already be aware whether you have met LICO since when you submitted EOI in 2020.

thanks. I c . we can renounce if they detect the parents are still PRs and they give time to submit an application for the same - before they will accept the P&G applications? doing it in advance and then having to find out that the application was not accepted because of not having met LiCO is what need to know. not sure if the criteria of approval is having an income without any savings or having good amount of savings.

 

[canuck78]

thanks. I c . we can renounce if they detect the parents are still PRs and they give time to submit an application for the same - before they will accept the P&G applications? doing it in advance and then having to find out that the application was not accepted because of not having met LiCO is what need to know. not sure if the criteria of approval is having an income without any savings or having good amount of savings.

They don’t qualify for PGP if they are already PRs and should be refused on those grounds. This is incredibly rare situation so speak to a lawyer. The income requirement is partially because that means people have been contributing tax revenue so paying into a system, working, contributing to Canada, etc. The need to meet LICO on NOA is a very clear requirement to qualify for PGP. In rare circumstances there may be some flexibility based on H&C but that is typically when at least 2 years are significantly over LICO and a major event has affected income in one year. You need to speak to a lawyer because it appears that your parents may not qualify for PR no matter what they do.

 

[canuck78]

thank you for taking out to reply
but are you here to answer or judge me?
are parents breaking rule or a law, if they apply for H&C or enter via US?
submissions of assessments are okay
is it not upto to IRCC to decide whether a person can sponsor and support his parents

if the income is 60k per year with zero savings for the last three years.
but you can show half a mil, will they consider - that is the question

what about the part about revoking of PR if they reject the applicatiob

thanks

It is literally up to IRCC to determine whether or not a PR or citizen can and will support their parents and be able to live in Canada.