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Flagpoling (or) Landing without USA visa

kunishsa

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Oct 30, 2012
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Hi All

I had received CoPR and now need to do my landing formalities. My dependants or myself have no US visitors visa. I am planning to do the flagpoling at Niagara in order to complete my PR process. Can anyone please answer the below questions regarding this.

1) Do I need to enter US immigration?
2) Would the rejection from USA effects our future applications to USA (like Visitors visa etc.)
3) What are the documents to carry?
4) Is Flagpoling legal from Canada and USA standpoint?
5) Will there be any interview at USA / Canada immigrations?
6) Exact location (Pincode or address) that I need to do the flagpoling @ Niagara?

Cheers,
Kunishsa
 

Goku

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Jan 13, 2014
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kunishsa said:
Hi All

I had received CoPR and now need to do my landing formalities. My dependants or myself have no US visitors visa. I am planning to do the flagpoling at Niagara in order to complete my PR process. Can anyone please answer the below questions regarding this.

1) Do I need to enter US immigration? Yes. when you get your chance tell Officer that you are here for Flag polling, and they will give you administrative refusal letter.
2) Would the rejection from USA effects our future applications to USA (like Visitors visa etc.) No it wont. It is a administrative refusal not Visa rejection
3) What are the documents to carry? PP, COPR, old permits etc.
4) Is Flagpoling legal from Canada and USA standpoint? Yes.
5) Will there be any interview at USA / Canada immigrations? No there wont be.
6) Exact location (Pincode or address) that I need to do the flagpoling @ Niagara? See below link: http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/uturn-experience-on-fort-erie-peace-bridge-niagara-falls-t155066.0.html

Cheers,
Kunishsa
P.S. Go around midnight or early morning for landing. My friend completed his landing at midnight and he was done in 10 min. or less maybe.
 

ABS_1382

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May 16, 2014
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Look at this link and it will give you detailed explanation of how and where to do landing along with a video...

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t244243.0.html
 

md4me

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Jan 12, 2013
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Waiting....
Goku said:
P.S. Go around midnight or early morning for landing. My friend completed his landing at midnight and he was done in 10 min. or less maybe.
Hi Goku,

Can we do landing anytime?
 

scylla

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01-10-2010
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05-10-2010
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05-10-2010
md4me said:
Hi Goku,

Can we do landing anytime?
Depends on the border crossing.
 

kunishsa

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Goku said:
P.S. Go around midnight or early morning for landing. My friend completed his landing at midnight and he was done in 10 min. or less maybe.
Hi Goku

Thanks a lot for your suggestions. It was really helpful.

--Kunishsa
 

kunishsa

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ABS_1382 said:
Look at this link and it will give you detailed explanation of how and where to do landing along with a video...

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t244243.0.html
Thanks a lot ABS_1382 for your help.

--Kunishsa
 

kunishsa

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Oct 30, 2012
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Hi All

We had finished our landing formalities @ Rainbow Bridge, Niagara. The process was very smooth. I went there @ 8.45 PM on Tuesday and there were none except us at CBSA. It took less than 5 minutes to finish everything. I went towards USA and got a white letter and an yellow slip. Submitted both these papers to Canada side. The officer was great and treated us really well.

Thanks a lot to everyone in this forum. The journey towards my PR or the wait could have been more painful, stressful and panic if I am not part of this forum or missing the suggestions from everyone here in this forum. Cheers everyone.

--Kunishsa
 

iamelle

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Oct 14, 2012
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March 28, 2015
Did you walk going to the border or you were in a car? Is U-turn possible?

Thanks and congratulations!
 

kunishsa

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iamelle said:
Did you walk going to the border or you were in a car? Is U-turn possible?

Thanks and congratulations!
Hi IamElle

We were in the car. There is no U-Turn available. We need to enter USA but should not get off from the Car. The officer on the US side gave us a slip which I had submitted back at CBSA.

Cheers,
Kunishsa
 

iamelle

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Oct 14, 2012
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CPC Ottawa
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AOR Received.
March 18, 2014
IELTS Request
CELPIP - Sent with application
Med's Request
Sept 9, 2014
Med's Done....
Sept 19, 2014
Passport Req..
January 21, 2015
VISA ISSUED...
March 26, 2015
LANDED..........
March 28, 2015
^ Oh so there's no need to park the car elsewhere then walk towards the border. How did you go back to the Canada side? So you just stayed there and waited for a slip to be issued?

Thank you for the reply!
 

kunishsa

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iamelle said:
^ Oh so there's no need to park the car elsewhere then walk towards the border. How did you go back to the Canada side? So you just stayed there and waited for a slip to be issued?

Thank you for the reply!
That's correct. We were staying in the car waiting for the US immigration officer to give us that paper. Then we went back to Canada side, parked our car and walked into CBSA for the landing formalities.

Cheers,
Kunishsa
 

hcyrusr

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Jan 11, 2014
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Any recent experience in flagpoling without US Visa in either Carway or Coutts? Any ideas, any suggestion or experience you had? Thank you
 

stray cat

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Aug 21, 2014
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CPP-O
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20-02-2014
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Sent with app
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24-07-2014
Med's Done....
02-08-2014
Interview........
RPRF: Paid 26-09-2014
Passport Req..
Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
CoPR: 12-11-2014
LANDED..........
15-11-2014
hcyrusr said:
Any recent experience in flagpoling without US Visa in either Carway or Coutts? Any ideas, any suggestion or experience you had? Thank you
We landed at Coutts in November 2014. Arrived at US border with no US paperwork and just explained that we were doing a U turn and heading back to the Canadian border for immigration purposes. Pretty much the same happened to us as described by folk above.

The US border guys gave us a paper administrative refusal and they explained that it would not affect coming back to the US at a later date.

Did a U turn with one of the US border guys escorting us. went back to Canadian side and did all paperwork in there. No problems for us mate

Good luck :)
 

rks0101

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Oct 21, 2014
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scylla said:
Depends on the border crossing.
Hi md4me,

I second Scylla. It is important to call the border post and check before going at hours beyond daytime shifts, especially for some border posts where we do not have examples of anytime landing..

Hope this helps!