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kieranangell

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I don't want to sound heartless, but by your own admittance, it sounds like you are enabling your brother-in-law's irresponsibility. If you were to leave Canada, maybe it would force him to start taking care of the children. Because your sister's illness is terminal, she should be in hospice care through the province's health care system, so you don't have to be the one to take care of her. If you were just to extend your stay, you would just continue to enable your deadbeat brother-in-law, and others have already pointed out that by being your sister's and her children's caregiver without a work permit, you are essentially working in Canada illegally.
You have a point. If nothing else I can do , I'll just leave. I'm just hopeful and have faith my sister will get well. Miracles happen everyday,since she keeps telling me as long as I'm around she believes she will get well and continue living. We just don't want to give up her chance of living longer that easily
 
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kieranangell

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Should I just give up ? I can see she's doing her best to fight for her kids, if I give up she have nothing anymore to hold on to. If I can't be approved for h & c , can I at least apply for tourist visa inside Canada so I can stay and be a moral support? I still have faith, her kids are still small and other 1 is disabled.
 
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hawk39

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Should I just give up ?
Only you can decide this. There's always a chance you could be granted H&C status, but as everyone has already said, the chances for H&C have been historically low. If you were to adopt the children, your chance for H&C might be better; but that would mean taking guardianship away from their father in court, so that would be another expense and more time and stress for your family. You need to talk with your brother-in-law and get him to tell you exactly what his plans are for the children if your H&C claim is denied and you leave, and your sister passes away.

If I can't be approved for h & c , can I at least apply for tourist visa inside Canada so I can stay and be a moral support?
Sorry, but I don't believe you qualify for another visitor visa based on the rules below:

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/visit-canada/apply-new-temporary-resident-visa-within-canada.html

"You can apply for a visitor visa from inside Canada if you meet all the conditions below:
  • you’re already in Canada
  • you hold a valid study or work permit
  • you want to leave and return to Canada in the near future
  • your existing visitor visa is expired or was valid for only one entry"
 

kieranangell

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Can I apply as the 3rd person guardian ship.i just read about this case we're a 3rd person was approved.

Case 1

Custody was originally awarded to the mother. After she passed away, the children went to live with their father. He was not able to connect with the children because his parenting style was very different than the mother's. The children really wanted to live with their aunt and uncle, but the father would not let them. The aunt and uncle went to court to ask for custody of the children.

Given all the circumstances, and the interests of the children and their wishes, the five judges hearing the case allowed the children to live with their aunt and uncle.
 

Copingwithlife

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Can I apply as the 3rd person guardian ship.i just read about this case we're a 3rd person was approved.

Case 1

Custody was originally awarded to the mother. After she passed away, the children went to live with their father. He was not able to connect with the children because his parenting style was very different than the mother's. The children really wanted to live with their aunt and uncle, but the father would not let them. The aunt and uncle went to court to ask for custody of the children.

Given all the circumstances, and the interests of the children and their wishes, the five judges hearing the case allowed the children to live with their aunt and uncle.
Where does it say in the above case that the aunt and uncle were given PR based upon a H/C submission ? This sounds like it was just a custody situation
 

canuck78

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I don't want to sound heartless, but by your own admittance, it sounds like you are enabling your brother-in-law's irresponsibility. If you were to leave Canada, maybe it would force him to start taking care of the children. Because your sister's illness is terminal, she should be in hospice care through the province's health care system, so you don't have to be the one to take care of her. If you were just to extend your stay, you would just continue to enable your deadbeat brother-in-law, and others have already pointed out that by being your sister's and her children's caregiver without a work permit, you are essentially working in Canada illegally.
Exactly. Do disagree that the healthcare system is there to support a patient. Without relatives caring for you above and beyond the healthcare system the care can be pretty poor. There are only so many resources available so the staff can only do the basics.
 

canuck78

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Can I apply as the 3rd person guardian ship.i just read about this case we're a 3rd person was approved.

Case 1

Custody was originally awarded to the mother. After she passed away, the children went to live with their father. He was not able to connect with the children because his parenting style was very different than the mother's. The children really wanted to live with their aunt and uncle, but the father would not let them. The aunt and uncle went to court to ask for custody of the children.

Given all the circumstances, and the interests of the children and their wishes, the five judges hearing the case allowed the children to live with their aunt and uncle.
Although I think you need to support your sister it does sound like she has been deemed as palliative. Given that there are children involved there has to be some planning in case she does pass away. You really need to involve a social worker. Taking away guardianship from a parent is pretty hard unless he is willing to give it up willingly. This involves courts, lawyers, social workers, etc. The fact that you don’t have PR will complicate things. There is always the option of you returning home with the children so they have a larger support system. They could return to Canada if they want when they are older. You really need to be sitting down with your brother-in-law and your sister if she is able and actually talk about these things. These things don’t happen automatically.
 

kieranangell

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Although I think you need to support your sister it does sound like she has been deemed as palliative. Given that there are children involved there has to be some planning in case she does pass away. You really need to involve a social worker. Taking away guardianship from a parent is pretty hard unless he is willing to give it up willingly. This involves courts, lawyers, social workers, etc. The fact that you don’t have PR will complicate things. There is always the option of you returning home with the children so they have a larger support system. They could return to Canada if they want when they are older. You really need to be sitting down with your brother-in-law and your sister if she is able and actually talk about these things. These things don’t happen automatically.
Thought of bringing the kids with me back it crosses my mind but with the virus outbreaks happening in our country I don't think it's a good idea. Her eldest is doing autism therapy here ,which was initially done in our country but it didn't give much progress. Here in Canada he's doing much better and have alot of support for autistic kids. My sister says ,that's the reason why she came back To Canada despite of the abuse of her husband its because of her children ,to get the services they need .
 

canuck78

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Thought of bringing the kids with me back it crosses my mind but with the virus outbreaks happening in our country I don't think it's a good idea. Her eldest is doing autism therapy here ,which was initially done in our country but it didn't give much progress. Here in Canada he's doing much better and have alot of support for autistic kids. My sister says ,that's the reason why she came back To Canada despite of the abuse of her husband its because of her children ,to get the services they need .
That may be your only option if you can’t get PR. It is not easy to transfer guardianship. There are courts need to be involved. This is why you really need to talk to your brother in law and see what his plans are if you stay and if you don’t stay. There are also finances involved in all of this. Can’t stress enough that this requires planning. You can’t informally take custody of children especially if they young children.
 

kieranangell

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Although I think you need to support your sister it does sound like she has been deemed as palliative. Given that there are children involved there has to be some planning in case she does pass away. You really need to involve a social worker. Taking away guardianship from a parent is pretty hard unless he is willing to give it up willingly. This involves courts, lawyers, social workers, etc. The fact that you don’t have PR will complicate things. There is always the option of you returning home with the children so they have a larger support system. They could return to Canada if they want when they are older. You really need to be sitting down with your brother-in-law and your sister if she is able and actually talk about these things. These things don’t happen automatically.
Yes her doctor wrote a letter saying my sister is doing palliative treatment . She have incurable stage 4 cancer on her bones and brain tumor.. But we don't loose hope , Jesus will heal her. She still do things and move around and help with bills . She just needs an immediate family support and she will continue living .
 
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kieranangell

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Thank you guys for all the help. I'll do all your suggestions and I'll just leave if there's nothing I can do anymore. At least I did all I can do to save life .
 

canuck78

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Yes her doctor wrote a letter saying my sister is doing palliative treatment . She have incurable stage 4 cancer on her bones and brain tumor.. But we don't loose hope , Jesus will heal her. She still do things and move around and help with bills . She just needs an immediate family support and she will continue living .
You can continue to hope but the reality is that she has metastatic cancer. She is likely not receiving chemo, radiation or immunotherapy do unfortunately a cure is not likely. You may not want to plan for the future but it is much harder to deal with things later on especially not knowing your status in Canada. There are charities or maybe social workers in the cancer clinics that help with planning for loss.
 

kieranangell

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You can continue to hope but the reality is that she has metastatic cancer. She is likely not receiving chemo, radiation or immunotherapy do unfortunately a cure is not likely. You may not want to plan for the future but it is much harder to deal with things later on especially not knowing your status in Canada. There are charities or maybe social workers in the cancer clinics that help with planning for loss.
She already did chemo but didn't work. She's right now just doing palliative treatment ,she's taking pills and Injection to prolong her life. Just don't want to leave when she pass away coz I'm her only immediate family who can take care of things if that day happens. I don't want to be applying again for a visa and get denied to get her remains.
 

canuck78

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She already did chemo but didn't work. She's right now just doing palliative treatment ,she's taking pills and Injection to prolong her life. Just don't want to leave when she pass away coz I'm her only immediate family who can take care of things if that day happens. I don't want to be applying again for a visa and get denied to get her remains.
The issue is she is still married so she actually does have family. This is the reason you really need to be doing planning now because you don’t have PR. It is much better for your sister to have talked people about her wishes when it comes to care of her children and her wishes when it comes to burial so that things can be implemented when she passes away. It is unclear what her husband is aware of but regardless of their marriage issues he has rights. In Canada the husband is considered her closest family member versus her sister.

I wish you the best but this is a situation where you really need to be proactive.