Work Experience while a student

[chasinglight]

So my friend has been doing his PHD in Canada and he previously did his Master's here. He worked prior to moving here to do his masters and has worked part time as a Research Assistant and Teaching Assistant here in Canada for four years. I know he won't qualify for CEC but if he has the settlement funds which he does can he apply as a skilled worker using his Canadian experience? Also can he add up his part time hours of two different jobs for one years work experience in Canada?

 

[chasinglight]

Anyone?

 

[ScarletSails]

According to CIC, "Any work experience acquired in Canada without valid work authorization will not be considered. Nor will periods of self-employment or work experience gained while the candidate was enrolled in a program of full-time study."

So your friend has to finish his study first, get a valid work permit, and then can start counting Canadian work experience.

 

[mf4361]

No

 

[chasinglight]

According to CIC, "Any work experience acquired in Canada without valid work authorization will not be considered. Nor will periods of self-employment or work experience gained while the candidate was enrolled in a program of full-time study."

So your friend has to finish his study first, get a valid work permit, and then can start counting Canadian work experience.

Problem is he had his work permit before and didn't use it he just enrolled in another program and you can't get more than one post grad work permit.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=855&top=6

That link says this and it makes me think it could work under federal skilled worker.

Can I count my work as a teaching assistant toward the work experience requirement?

You may be able to count experience as a teaching, research or lab assistant at a post-secondary educational institution, (see National Occupation Classification 4012) toward the work experience requirement, depending on the eligibility criteria of the programs.

If after submitting your Express Entry profile you are invited to apply, you must show that you did the job as described in the occupational description of the NOC, meaning that you did all the essential duties and most of the main duties listed. If you do not show that your experience meets the description in NOC, your application will be refused.

To be considered under the Canadian Experience Class:

You cannot count work experience you gained while enrolled as a full-time student. Your work experience must have been gained while on a valid work permit, such as the Post-Graduation Work Permit.

You must have gained the equivalent amount of experience as someone who worked full-time for at least one year (1,560 hours) in the three years before you submit your Express Entry profile.

To be considered under the Federal Skilled Worker Program:

Your work experience must have been full-time (or the equivalent in part-time hours), worked continuously and paid, for at least one year in the same occupation.

But then this link makes me think something else

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=393&top=29

 

[Nalanda]

Dear Chasing light,

I have the same question and confusion. According to CEC, whatever the work experience you have gained while studying full time will not be considered. That is 100% clear. But according to FSW, there is no clear statement declaring that work experience which has been gained during full time student is not discussed clearly.

Refer this link http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=1132&top=29. I pasted the contents for your reference.:
I have been working in Canada for the last six months but didn’t get points for work experience. Why not?

Under the Express Entry Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS), to be awarded points for skilled work experience, you must have been:

legally allowed to work in Canada in one or more jobs listed in Skill Type 0 or Skill Level A or B of the National Occupational Classification;
working full-time (or an equal amount in part-time), meaning 30 hours of work per week, and
working for at least one year in the 10-year period before the day we assign you points.
We do not count work experience if you were:

studying full-time while you were working,
self-employed, or
not legally allowed to work in Canada.

Please note: Work experience does not need to be continuous to get points under the CRS. But, to qualify under the Federal Skilled Worker Program, you must have at least one year of continuous full-time paid work experience, either in Canada or abroad.

 

[chasinglight]

He's not applying under cec he's applying under fswp

 

[wildemam]

So my friend has been doing his PHD in Canada and he previously did his Master's here. He worked prior to moving here to do his masters and has worked part time as a Research Assistant and Teaching Assistant here in Canada for four years. I know he won't qualify for CEC but if he has the settlement funds which he does can he apply as a skilled worker using his Canadian experience? Also can he add up his part time hours of two different jobs for one years work experience in Canada?

Any work experience done under a study permit is not considered. CIC and Ontario does not consider them for PhD students ( I am one).

I was 6 months short of 3 years work experience which costed me valuable 25 points. I mentioned my 2 year part-time experience in Canada, but it does not add to foreign work nor towards even Canada experience if no work permit is used.

 

[chasinglight]

This link makes me think he can apply under federal

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=855&top=6

Can I count my work as a teaching assistant toward the work experience requirement?

You may be able to count experience as a teaching, research or lab assistant at a post-secondary educational institution, (see National Occupation Classification 4012) toward the work experience requirement, depending on the eligibility criteria of the programs.

To be considered under the Federal Skilled Worker Program:

Your work experience must have been full-time (or the equivalent in part-time hours), worked continuously and paid, for at least one year in the same occupation.

To be considered under the Canadian Experience Class:

You cannot count work experience you gained while enrolled as a full-time student. Your work experience must have been gained while on a valid work permit, such as the Post-Graduation Work Permit.

You must have gained the equivalent amount of experience as someone who worked full-time for at least one year (1,560 hours) in the three years before you submit your Express Entry profile.

 

[chasinglight]

Dear Chasing light,

I have the same question and confusion. According to CEC, whatever the work experience you have gained while studying full time will not be considered. That is 100% clear. But according to FSW, there is no clear statement declaring that work experience which has been gained during full time student is not discussed clearly.

Refer this link http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=1132&top=29. I pasted the contents for your reference.:
I have been working in Canada for the last six months but didn’t get points for work experience. Why not?

Under the Express Entry Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS), to be awarded points for skilled work experience, you must have been:

legally allowed to work in Canada in one or more jobs listed in Skill Type 0 or Skill Level A or B of the National Occupational Classification;
working full-time (or an equal amount in part-time), meaning 30 hours of work per week, and
working for at least one year in the 10-year period before the day we assign you points.
We do not count work experience if you were:

studying full-time while you were working,
self-employed, or
not legally allowed to work in Canada.

Please note: Work experience does not need to be continuous to get points under the CRS. But, to qualify under the Federal Skilled Worker Program, you must have at least one year of continuous full-time paid work experience, either in Canada or abroad.

Thank you! could this be because its 6 months work experience and not a year?