will my application be denied if am not working to sponsor my spouse aboard

[Bree1993]

I lived in Canada for 9 years going on 10. my mom sponsored me as a child in 2005 ( permanent resident for 7 year). I am married to my husband for 3 years and we have a 14 months old daughter. I haven't sent in any application because i still want some of my questions to be answered. Calling CIC frequently with no luck of speaking to a rep has frustrated me enough since their the ones that i want answer directly from. However, My question is ; would i be able to sponsor my spouse without working?. My situation at the moment is , i am a full time student in college and a full time mom. Before I had my daughter i was working but decided after a year i will return to school to further my education to give my upcoming family a better life. I also thought to myself it would be hard trying to joggle work,school and a toddler at the same time and would have to sacrifice something, which i dont want to do. I am also recieving Child tax benefits for my daughter, trillium & GST (not enough but manage alot ) and for my college funding OSAP .I currently live with my cousin and sometimes get some help from my mother(which is sometimes good ) because she herself has to work. I am worried and concern because i want to visit my husband for the new years and sent in the application June 2014 without any hassle and getting denied. I heard from numerous ppl that i dont need to be working to sponsor my husband, but if am not working how am i going to support him? (is tha question i believe a CIC rep is going to ask themselves also). I want everything to run smoothly with this application. I dont know when i will try get a job , but for right now it seems impossible , since its me and just my daughter at the moment. PLEASE give me some info, that would calm my nerves and give me a bit of hope with this.

P.S its hard being a single mother but rewarding when knowing that im doing everything in my powers for my little girl.

 

[HARMIN]

yes ...u still can sponsor him ..but if u r Receiving any Welfare or any other kind of grant or loan from Canadian government then u r not eligible to sponsor him..

 

[Bree1993]

I called cic this Morning and I told them my situation. I am taking osap due to the fact college funds are high and as a single mother it's just impossible and the coco rep told me I can and I don't have to meet any minimum income requirements. My osap comes in for my tuition and by which I pay my rent . So basically of I gotta go homeless to sponsor my husband that's definitely not a good look to starting the process of sponsoring my husband. So I think receiving loans would be outta the questions because my tuition has to be paid for me to actually go to school and 7 thousand dollas is what I cannot pay outta my own pocket to pay plus support my daughter.

 

[Alurra71]

Ok. Your posts are quite confusing but I will try to interpret it as you intended.

You do not need to have a certain income to sponsor your spouse, however you should have a very well thought out and defined plan about how you will support yourselves if he receives his PR and lands in Canada. This must be clear and reasonable in order for them to accept it.

I do not know if Trillium and GST fall into a social aid category. If they do indeed fall into that category, then it won't matter because you will be ineligible to sponsor your husband anyway. There must be NO social assistance received. I am 99% positive that OSAP does not fall into social assistance, but I could be wrong.

If OSAP is paying your rent and it is supposed to be paying for your schooling, then which is it? Your last post is quite confusing and muddled. You would not be able to sponsor your husband if you were homeless as in living in a shelter homeless. Sharing a home with one of your parents or a relative/friend does not qualify you as homeless.

I do have questions about your marriage though, and these are the same questions that will come to mind for a VO so you should be prepared to answer them properly.

Why have you been married for 3 years and where is your husband now?

Why does your husband not help support you and the shared daughter?

If you have no money, how do you and your husband see one another?

 

[MapleLeafBride]

I do not think OSAP is considered the type of assistance you are not allowed to be on. After all, you have to pay it back and pay interest on top of it! And you can't get it if you aren't in school. Anyway, if you do not have an income, you have to provide a write-up about how you support yourself now and how you plan on supporting yourself and your spouse once he's in Canada because you cannot apply for social assistance/welfare once he's there. So talk about how you are on OSAP, what sort of job you can get after your program, where you live, who helps you out with any bills, etc... someone else may have other tips on what to include.

I do not think the GST benefit is social assistance, as it's a tax break to compensate for some of the taxes you pay throughout the year. It's like a CPP or EI overpayment refund based on your income.

 

[Bree1993]

Ok. Your posts are quite confusing but I will try to interpret it as you intended.

You do not need to have a certain income to sponsor your spouse, however you should have a very well thought out and defined plan about how you will support yourselves if he receives his PR and lands in Canada. This must be clear and reasonable in order for them to accept it.

I do not know if Trillium and GST fall into a social aid category. If they do indeed fall into that category, then it won't matter because you will be ineligible to sponsor your husband anyway. There must be NO social assistance received. I am 99% positive that OSAP does not fall into social assistance, but I could be wrong.

If OSAP is paying your rent and it is supposed to be paying for your schooling, then which is it? Your last post is quite confusing and muddled. You would not be able to sponsor your husband if you were homeless as in living in a shelter homeless. Sharing a home with one of your parents or a relative/friend does not qualify you as homeless.

I do have questions about your marriage though, and these are the same questions that will come to mind for a VO so you should be prepared to answer them properly.

Why have you been married for 3 years and where is your husband now?

Why does your husband not help support you and the shared daughter?

If you have no money, how do you and your husband see one another?

The answer to your question is

1. i got married in 2010, that time my husband was on refugee and got carried away by a lawyer who basically was taking our money without doing anything and from that he got denied even before putting the sponsorship through and was ordered a deportation. We hold off on the sponsorship for a while because his grandmother fell terrible sick and had to fly to Barbados for an surgical operation and he stuck by her. Which i didnt mind because thats the woman who raised him.


2. My husband is in a country where the currency is very less that canada and he does support my daughter in every possible way that he can.

3.I while i was still working ,on my vacation i took a trip to St.Vincent 2011 *(December) and came back in January.And the month of march is when i first found out i was pregnant. Me and my husband do in fact keep in contact through internet and over the phone.


I know its been a very long time and also felt that we could of approach ding the sponsorship a long time ago to avoid any hassle, but now am willing to have him back here. I am also going to write a letter explaining my situation and also input that when he comes here he will get himself a job and will not be on SOCIAL ASSISTANT. Ive mention that yes i am taking osap for my tuition but the remainder that i have fill in the blanks of paying my rent and food etc. 've also mention that i am living with my cousin, where we split the rent in half so its easier on both of us. But reality prove that i am not a superwoman to be working, being in school and being a mother.

 

[Bree1993]

I do not think OSAP is considered the type of assistance you are not allowed to be on. After all, you have to pay it back and pay interest on top of it! And you can't get it if you aren't in school. Anyway, if you do not have an income, you have to provide a write-up about how you support yourself now and how you plan on supporting yourself and your spouse once he's in Canada because you cannot apply for social assistance/welfare once he's there. So talk about how you are on OSAP, what sort of job you can get after your program, where you live, who helps you out with any bills, etc... someone else may have other tips on what to include.

I do not think the GST benefit is social assistance, as it's a tax break to compensate for some of the taxes you pay throughout the year. It's like a CPP or EI overpayment refund based on your income.

Thank you for pointing out that GST and trilium doesnt affiliates with welfare.Ive been receiving those ever since i got my first job in canada. I do have my mom that helps me out on a regular with my daughter and living expenses but mostly i use whatever little savings i have to do the same as well. the program that am doing in college helps me bridge over to nursing and best believe am going to be in school for quiet a while (3-4 year). I am on having a professional write up something for me so it can be more explanatory and reasonable.

 

[Alurra71]

You are likely going to have a hurdle to jump just based on him being deported. The rest of it is going to have to be very air tight to pass the rest of the normal hurdles that sponsorship inherently has without any hurdles. You might consider getting a lawyer or consultant in your area that can be trusted. Members on this forum are very helpful and likely can help with recommendations.

I think you have a difficult case here but it can probably be done with patience and effort.

Good luck and happy new year.

 

[Bree1993]

You are likely going to have a hurdle to jump just based on him being deported. The rest of it is going to have to be very air tight to pass the rest of the normal hurdles that sponsorship inherently has without any hurdles. You might consider getting a lawyer or consultant in your area that can be trusted. Members on this forum are very helpful and likely can help with recommendations.

I think you have a difficult case here but it can probably be done with patience and effort.

Good luck and happy new year.

nothing comes easy in this world and its ok. But i am a patient person , as well as a fighter. I also have a friend who went thru the same exact situation with her husband getting deported and whatsnot and hes coming back up in this month (Jan) so i think with faith and dedication it will be ok. I just want the first stage of sponsorship with me to be ok. because i think i have a fairly good chance at this. He needs an authorization to come back which am familiarize with base on my friends situation so hopeful everything works out cus my daughter need her father and i need my husband

 

[wowsers]

t appears to me that in your application you should concentrate on 3 facets of your case (1) your studies and the fact that they are intended to improve your financial circumstances once you qualify as a nurse (2) the fact that you receive support in kind from your mother and cousin, support which would continue if you and your family still needed it after your husband's return to Canada (if that be the case) and (3) your husband's qualifications and earning potential once he becomes a Canadian permanent resident, including the fact that because of exchange rate problems he is at present unable to provide you with much financial assistance. You do not have to prove that you can maintain the family from your own resources when your husband becomes a permanent resident: his resources and earning potential and the assistance you will receive from your mother and cousin are also taken into account. I cannot help you as to whether the payments you receive at present constitute social assistance receipts or concerning the effect of your husband's deportation, but leaving aside those issues I think you should be able to set out a reasonably sound case in support of your application.

 

[Bree1993]

t appears to me that in your application you should concentrate on 3 facets of your case (1) your studies and the fact that they are intended to improve your financial circumstances once you qualify as a nurse (2) the fact that you receive support in kind from your mother and cousin, support which would continue if you and your family still needed it after your husband's return to Canada (if that be the case) and (3) your husband's qualifications and earning potential once he becomes a Canadian permanent resident, including the fact that because of exchange rate problems he is at present unable to provide you with much financial assistance. You do not have to prove that you can maintain the family from your own resources when your husband becomes a permanent resident: his resources and earning potential and the assistance you will receive from your mother and cousin are also taken into account. I cannot help you as to whether the payments you receive at present constitute social assistance receipts or concerning the effect of your husband's deportation, but leaving aside those issues I think you should be able to set out a reasonably sound case in support of your application.

GST AND TRILLIUM is not consider welfare, I clearly understand i have to be off it completely in order to sponsor my husband. GST and trillium is a portion from my tax whenever i claim my taxes. I think i have an understanding on what to do and how to move forward with this. Yes am up against a rough case but my husband deserve to be here with his family and now away from us. I want to be able to focus in school and at the same time have this sponsorship run smoothly. I am also going to visit him hopefully in june before i send off the application so that way i can also include proof that my daughter and i visit him.

I just want to find out what do i include in the application as i write up my situation ? so i need to have my cousin write a letter stating that we share an apartment? or i just write a letter of my own explain everything ?

 

[toutesweet]

GST AND TRILLIUM is not consider welfare, I clearly understand i have to be off it completely in order to sponsor my husband. GST and trillium is a portion from my tax whenever i claim my taxes. I think i have an understanding on what to do and how to move forward with this. Yes am up against a rough case but my husband deserve to be here with his family and now away from us. I want to be able to focus in school and at the same time have this sponsorship run smoothly. I am also going to visit him hopefully in june before i send off the application so that way i can also include proof that my daughter and i visit him.

I just want to find out what do i include in the application as i write up my situation ? so i need to have my cousin write a letter stating that we share an apartment? or i just write a letter of my own explain everything ?

Hi Bree, yes don't worry about gst and osap, the thing is to show you can get by. What you are missing to me that might help, is your husband's earning potential and his job prospects once he arrives. Some things are as simple as fluent in English. Others might be that maybe your husband has a skill that is considered in demand?
What kind of jobs has he had?
Workers in demand run a pretty wide range and if he had experience in one of those jobs it would be helpful. If you knew someone with a business that was willing to say they would hire him when he arrives it would be helpful.
Remember you selling the perception of being more than capable of being self sufficient. You may also include in your 'pitch' how having him there will save you money and perhaps, whether you intend to use her or not, a letter from your mum starting her intention to fully assist you financially as needed.
Make a well rounded package that shows that you have a week thought out plan. Personally, I do not think you need or can really afford a lawyer.
Yes it can't hurt to include the letter from your cousin saying that you share the apt, she is aware of and agrees with the intended arrangement. They may ask you for DNA test to confirm your child.
I'm sorry you had such a bad experience with the lawyer you had before. Most lawyers and consultants are on the up and up but there are some real shameless pieces of work as well.
The last thing is as he was deported, that WILL be an issue. You have to know what went wrong and if there were any red flags so you can address them. You have to explain how it came down to a deportation. Especially if you had a lawyer to put in the initial application and he didn't do it. Lay everything out to put him in a good light that will not be a problem, make a contribution to Canada and did not misrepresent himself. The last one is a big one because he came in claiming refugee and was deported. How did he gain to Canada the first time?
All of these questions are important to the process and how you answer will weigh heavily on your success. I think you should check out free legal advice clinics to ask questions. This is not legal aid, it's usually run by law schools to offer free legal advice from law students. They could very well offer you some insight. I hope this gives you some useful things to consider. You can succeed. Don't lose heart.

 

[Bree1993]

Hi Bree, yes don't worry about gst and osap, the thing is to show you can get by. What you are missing to me that might help, is your husband's earning potential and his job prospects once he arrives. Some things are as simple as fluent in English. Others might be that maybe your husband has a skill that is considered in demand?
What kind of jobs has he had?
Workers in demand run a pretty wide range and if he had experience in one of those jobs it would be helpful. If you knew someone with a business that was willing to say they would hire him when he arrives it would be helpful.
Remember you selling the perception of being more than capable of being self sufficient. You may also include in your 'pitch' how having him there will save you money and perhaps, whether you intend to use her or not, a letter from your mum starting her intention to fully assist you financially as needed.
Make a well rounded package that shows that you have a week thought out plan. Personally, I do not think you need or can really afford a lawyer.
Yes it can't hurt to include the letter from your cousin saying that you share the apt, she is aware of and agrees with the intended arrangement. They may ask you for DNA test to confirm your child.
I'm sorry you had such a bad experience with the lawyer you had before. Most lawyers and consultants are on the up and up but there are some real shameless pieces of work as well.
The last thing is as he was deported, that WILL be an issue. You have to know what went wrong and if there were any red flags so you can address them. You have to explain how it came down to a deportation. Especially if you had a lawyer to put in the initial application and he didn't do it. Lay everything out to put him in a good light that will not be a problem, make a contribution to Canada and did not misrepresent himself. The last one is a big one because he came in claiming ree and was deported. How did he gain to Canada the first time?
All of these questions are important to the process and how you answer will weigh heavily on your success. I think you should check out free legal advice clinics to ask questions. This is not legal aid, it's usually run by law schools to offer free legal advice from law students. They could very well offer you some insight. I hope this gives you some useful things to consider. You can succeed. Don't lose heart.

Thank you for some strong tips hun. Kindly appreciate it .
Before my husband was sentence a deportation he was working under a work permit they issue to him at numerous work places and yes he is fluent in english.
I personally dont know everything to why he was giving a deportation but what i know is they didnt believe his life wasn't in danger due to the evidences that he showed with in his case. What i also know is that an immigration officer advice us to do an outland sponsorship, which doesn't take long to process and that he will need an authorization to come back. Someone also told me in authority he has a good case and chance in coming back because he has a daughter and am a single mother presently trying to get by day to day and going to school.