Visitor Visa for Venezuelan

[GG-RV]

Hi,

I'm a Canadian (born in Canada) that wishes to meet my actual boyfriend who lives in Venezuela. We have been together since December of 2019.
We met online. We actually tried a lot of pathway since then to actually meet in Canada (I'm in QC to top it off). Yet, most told us "It is impossible. Your boyfriend doesn't have a job, barely living from his autonomous work. Couldn't finish his university. Might as well end it there."
He has his passport which we were able to renew (he was able to find the money himself via his work), has no criminal record whatsoever.
At this moment, Canada itself told me to go marry him. My own country is asking me to go the extreme path in order to meet.
Me and him agreed that marrying was risky without meeting beforehand.
And the joy of this: we are a gay couple. So finding a place to marry isn't exactly easy. And so, we found Denmark can.

So... before we head there, anyone got a way to bring my boyfriend in Canada without having to marry? Something we might have overlooked?
His situation isn't getting any better and right now, getting my passport will take so much time with the current passport crisis in Canada.

Thanks for the help in advance.
G.

 

[scylla]

Hi,

I'm a Canadian (born in Canada) that wishes to meet my actual boyfriend who lives in Venezuela. We have been together since December of 2019.
We met online. We actually tried a lot of pathway since then to actually meet in Canada (I'm in QC to top it off). Yet, most told us "It is impossible. Your boyfriend doesn't have a job, barely living from his autonomous work. Couldn't finish his university. Might as well end it there."
He has his passport which we were able to renew (he was able to find the money himself via his work), has no criminal record whatsoever.
At this moment, Canada itself told me to go marry him. My own country is asking me to go the extreme path in order to meet.
Me and him agreed that marrying was risky without meeting beforehand.
And the joy of this: we are a gay couple. So finding a place to marry isn't exactly easy. And so, we found Denmark can.

So... before we head there, anyone got a way to bring my boyfriend in Canada without having to marry? Something we might have overlooked?
His situation isn't getting any better and right now, getting my passport will take so much time with the current passport crisis in Canada.

Thanks for the help in advance.
G.

You're in a difficult situation.

Based on his profile, I agree that it will likely be difficult for him to get a TRV. But you should by all means try. He might get lucky. The most important thing to show with a TRV is that he has strong ties to his home country and has no plans on remaining in Canada long term. The kind of evidence that a person should ideally provide is proof of steady employment, proof of property ownership and also evidence that the person has sufficient funds to pay for their trip to Canada. Ideally he should cover his own costs of the trip, not you. Additionally, it will help if he has previously visited countries requiring visas such as the US. I would recommend he keep his requested trip relatively short (i.e. 2-3 weeks tops).

Another option could be a study permit but this is a very expensive option and it doesn't sound like this would be realistic for him based on the information you've provided. He would need to have a bank balance of at least $25,000 to show that he can cover tuition and living expenses. He would first need to get admitted into a full time college or university program in Canada and then he would apply for the study permit. He would need to make sure that his planned education in Canada makes sense in light of his previous education and work experience.

Work permits are always an option but very difficult to get (especially if he's never finished university and doesn't have specialized skills). To qualify for a work permit, he would need to first secure a job offer in Canada and then that employer would need to obtain an approved LMIA (long process that requires the employer to prove no one could be hired for the job in Canada). If the LMIA is approved, he would then apply for a closed work permit tied to that specific employer.

I would start by having him apply for the TRV to see if that is refused or approved. If it's refused and he doesn't have the funds for the study permit, then I would agree that your next step is to travel there yourself to meet him. Do not get married the first time you meet him in person. This is a red flag and assuming you want to sponsor him for permanent residency later, this will create problems and make IRCC concerned that it is a marriage of convenience on his end. You would want to visit him in person once or twice before actually taking the trip down to get married.

Good luck.

 

[scylla]

Hi,

I'm a Canadian (born in Canada) that wishes to meet my actual boyfriend who lives in Venezuela. We have been together since December of 2019.
We met online. We actually tried a lot of pathway since then to actually meet in Canada (I'm in QC to top it off). Yet, most told us "It is impossible. Your boyfriend doesn't have a job, barely living from his autonomous work. Couldn't finish his university. Might as well end it there."
He has his passport which we were able to renew (he was able to find the money himself via his work), has no criminal record whatsoever.
At this moment, Canada itself told me to go marry him. My own country is asking me to go the extreme path in order to meet.
Me and him agreed that marrying was risky without meeting beforehand.
And the joy of this: we are a gay couple. So finding a place to marry isn't exactly easy. And so, we found Denmark can.

So... before we head there, anyone got a way to bring my boyfriend in Canada without having to marry? Something we might have overlooked?
His situation isn't getting any better and right now, getting my passport will take so much time with the current passport crisis in Canada.

Thanks for the help in advance.
G.

To add to my note above, there is also a conjugal sponsorship path for sponsoring a partner. However it's more difficult and in terms of the risks to you, it's still the same as getting married. If you can prove that it's impossible for you to get married due to immigration barriers and also impossible for you to live together continuously for at least one full year to become common law, then you could sponsor him for PR through the conjugal path. Note that you would not be in a position to do that now given you've never met. To be in a position to sponsor him for conjugal, at a minimum he would need to try to apply for a TRV to visit Canada and have that refused, and you would want to go on trips to meet each other in person at least 3 times (more would be better). You would also need to show that you have a marriage-like relationship, meaning you share property ownership or bank accounts, etc. You should also be aware that if you sponsor someone to Canada (regardless of whether it's through marriage or common law or conjugal), you will be financially responsible for that person for 3 years.

 

[canuck78]

Hi,

I'm a Canadian (born in Canada) that wishes to meet my actual boyfriend who lives in Venezuela. We have been together since December of 2019.
We met online. We actually tried a lot of pathway since then to actually meet in Canada (I'm in QC to top it off). Yet, most told us "It is impossible. Your boyfriend doesn't have a job, barely living from his autonomous work. Couldn't finish his university. Might as well end it there."
He has his passport which we were able to renew (he was able to find the money himself via his work), has no criminal record whatsoever.
At this moment, Canada itself told me to go marry him. My own country is asking me to go the extreme path in order to meet.
Me and him agreed that marrying was risky without meeting beforehand.
And the joy of this: we are a gay couple. So finding a place to marry isn't exactly easy. And so, we found Denmark can.

So... before we head there, anyone got a way to bring my boyfriend in Canada without having to marry? Something we might have overlooked?
His situation isn't getting any better and right now, getting my passport will take so much time with the current passport crisis in Canada.

Thanks for the help in advance.
G.

Unfortunately due to the political situation in Venezuela and given the amount of Venezuelan who have sought asylum throughout the world it isn’t hard to understand why the Canadian government is reluctant to give out TRVs tomost Venezuelans. Many have claimed asylum after coming to Canada if they had existing TRVs. It’s an unfortunate situation but given you have never even met in person the risk that he may not leave Canada is very high.

 

[GG-RV]

You're in a difficult situation.

Based on his profile, I agree that it will likely be difficult for him to get a TRV. But you should by all means try. He might get lucky. The most important thing to show with a TRV is that he has strong ties to his home country and has no plans on remaining in Canada long term. The kind of evidence that a person should ideally provide is proof of steady employment, proof of property ownership and also evidence that the person has sufficient funds to pay for their trip to Canada. Ideally he should cover his own costs of the trip, not you. Additionally, it will help if he has previously visited countries requiring visas such as the US. I would recommend he keep his requested trip relatively short (i.e. 2-3 weeks tops).

Another option could be a study permit but this is a very expensive option and it doesn't sound like this would be realistic for him based on the information you've provided. He would need to have a bank balance of at least $25,000 to show that he can cover tuition and living expenses. He would first need to get admitted into a full time college or university program in Canada and then he would apply for the study permit. He would need to make sure that his planned education in Canada makes sense in light of his previous education and work experience.

Work permits are always an option but very difficult to get (especially if he's never finished university and doesn't have specialized skills). To qualify for a work permit, he would need to first secure a job offer in Canada and then that employer would need to obtain an approved LMIA (long process that requires the employer to prove no one could be hired for the job in Canada). If the LMIA is approved, he would then apply for a closed work permit tied to that specific employer.

I would start by having him apply for the TRV to see if that is refused or approved. If it's refused and he doesn't have the funds for the study permit, then I would agree that your next step is to travel there yourself to meet him. Do not get married the first time you meet him in person. This is a red flag and assuming you want to sponsor him for permanent residency later, this will create problems and make IRCC concerned that it is a marriage of convenience on his end. You would want to visit him in person once or twice before actually taking the trip down to get married.

Good luck.

Thanks for the answers.
We know it isn't easy and we will apply for a TRV visa soon enough. But, we both know it'll be refused. We already know the reality of the thing.

As for Study permit: We tried. We proceeded with the plan. And it was impossible unless he finances his own trip, as you said. If I'm the one paying, the visa was getting refused (We have document as proof). To complete: he wanted to finish his study, but Venezuela being... Venezuela, his University closed due to 'Not being taken cared of' by the authorities. So, he needs a huge amount of money to go to a private one.

I looked into work permit. I live on the countryside, so I thought it would be easy to find someone willing to hire him. Turn out: close to impossible unless he got a license or some kind of study in that particular domain of expertise.

As for the marriage, we don't want to go that way at all. I've read what the IIRC says about meeting people online and going over to their place and marry and yada yada. But, I find it ironic, cause it is exactly what they are asking me: Go there, sacrifice everything here.... Your money, your job, your stuff.
They are especially telling people not to do that, yet Canada itself tells me that it is the only way to be together.
And speaking of convenience: Of course it is! Cause it is the only path left opened for us! I talked with a lawyer and conjugal sponsorship is close to impossible to prove with him. Simply of what you said: Proof of mutual benefits, proof of ownership...

And so, marriage it is. I hope that we could have found a solution for us both other then that extreme pathway, but it all seems like dead end atm.
Venezuela is in a major crisis and I understand that Canada is being highly reluctant to give visa to people originating from that country.

Have a nice day.
G

 

[scylla]

Thanks for the answers.
We know it isn't easy and we will apply for a TRV visa soon enough. But, we both know it'll be refused. We already know the reality of the thing.

As for Study permit: We tried. We proceeded with the plan. And it was impossible unless he finances his own trip, as you said. If I'm the one paying, the visa was getting refused (We have document as proof). To complete: he wanted to finish his study, but Venezuela being... Venezuela, his University closed due to 'Not being taken cared of' by the authorities. So, he needs a huge amount of money to go to a private one.

I looked into work permit. I live on the countryside, so I thought it would be easy to find someone willing to hire him. Turn out: close to impossible unless he got a license or some kind of study in that particular domain of expertise.

As for the marriage, we don't want to go that way at all. I've read what the IIRC says about meeting people online and going over to their place and marry and yada yada. But, I find it ironic, cause it is exactly what they are asking me: Go there, sacrifice everything here.... Your money, your job, your stuff.
They are especially telling people not to do that, yet Canada itself tells me that it is the only way to be together.
And speaking of convenience: Of course it is! Cause it is the only path left opened for us! I talked with a lawyer and conjugal sponsorship is close to impossible to prove with him. Simply of what you said: Proof of mutual benefits, proof of ownership...

And so, marriage it is. I hope that we could have found a solution for us both other then that extreme pathway, but it all seems like dead end atm.
Venezuela is in a major crisis and I understand that Canada is being highly reluctant to give visa to people originating from that country.

Have a nice day.
G

You've understood the situation correctly and it looks like you've already explored all of the possible options.

Just don't get married on your first trip together in person. That will create problems. Visit each other in person first. Get married on your second or third trip to see each other in person. If you get married during your first in-person trip, that will almost certainly create big issues for your sponsorship application.

Good luck.

 

[Copingwithlife]

Hi,

I'm a Canadian (born in Canada) that wishes to meet my actual boyfriend who lives in Venezuela. We have been together since December of 2019.
We met online. We actually tried a lot of pathway since then to actually meet in Canada (I'm in QC to top it off). Yet, most told us "It is impossible. Your boyfriend doesn't have a job, barely living from his autonomous work. Couldn't finish his university. Might as well end it there."
He has his passport which we were able to renew (he was able to find the money himself via his work), has no criminal record whatsoever.
At this moment, Canada itself told me to go marry him. My own country is asking me to go the extreme path in order to meet.
Me and him agreed that marrying was risky without meeting beforehand.
And the joy of this: we are a gay couple. So finding a place to marry isn't exactly easy. And so, we found Denmark can.

So... before we head there, anyone got a way to bring my boyfriend in Canada without having to marry? Something we might have overlooked?
His situation isn't getting any better and right now, getting my passport will take so much time with the current passport crisis in Canada.

Thanks for the help in advance.
G.

My ex had this issue . He’s here in Canada , the bf was in Peru . He tried the visa route , denied. Tried the work permit route for his company, which I said was a stretch , denied. I said you gotta build up a history of meeting this guy before you do anything . Vacations etc . He flew to Peru, and various other countries in South America that Peruvians can fly to to build up evidence of a relationship. I told him as mentioned do not get hitched the first time. Not only does it raise the red flags, it’s a tad bit crazy .
Love at first sight is for Harlequin Romance, not for immigration.
He flew down about 10x
They got married in Argentina, he then sponsored him outland. Took about 14 months for the guy to get his PPR request.

It’s doable, but takes quite awhile
The guy in Peru had no travel history, refusal of visa to the USA etc. He has been here now five years
Good luck