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[benjy309]

Hello everyone!

I have been twice rejected visitor's visa to Canada (insufficient proof that I will leave Canada at the end of my stay).

I really need experts' advice in this matter!

A brief summary about me: I am 24 I leave in the Middle East, I work for the Oil Company as an Operations Coordinator and Project Planner. I have a Schengen visa - I travelled to Spain (Barcelona) and France (Montpellier) in February 2019 and I have visited Turkey, Bulgaria and Georgia. My family lives with me in my country (my mom, dad, brother and sister). I do not have a property back home and I am single. I am engaged to a lady who lives in Montreal, and she is awaiting her PR approval. The thing is that when I was applying for the visitor's visa in the past I wanted to see Canada and travel with my girlfriend during my vacation. After my second and last refusal in October 2018, I forgot about the idea of travelling to Canada and was saving money instead, for our future. Now, I want to come to Canada and study English and french, while I and my fiancee are waiting for her PR in order to leave together. Upon her approval, we plan to make a wedding and apply for family sponsorship.

Now, I have never seen a legal immigration agent before, thus, I really need your advice: is the way I am thinking in the given matter legal and correct? And what are some ways for me to achieve my goal?

Thank you,
Sincerely,
Benjy

 

[benjy309]

I wanted to note that my fiancee's brother also lives in Montreal and he has his PR already, he is a good friend of mine and wants to make an invitation for me. Also, my aunt and uncle are citizens of Canada and reside in Montreal as well.

 

[21Goose]

It will be difficult for you to get a tourist visa since you're clearly not a tourist - you are planning to live in Canada for good. As you have already been denied twice before, the odds of getting a tourist visa in these circumstances are extremely low. You can try, of course, but don't expect to be approved because it's obvious that you will not leave - and a tourist visa isn't supposed to be used like that.

There's nothing wrong with your plan of marrying your fiancee and then being sponsored (once she has become a PR).

However, you should plan to get married in your home country (or her home country). Get married, let her get her PR, and then get sponsored as a PR. That's the most reasonable way of coming to Canada for you.

 

[benjy309]

It will be difficult for you to get a tourist visa since you're clearly not a tourist - you are planning to live in Canada for good. As you have already been denied twice before, the odds of getting a tourist visa in these circumstances are extremely low. You can try, of course, but don't expect to be approved because it's obvious that you will not leave - and a tourist visa isn't supposed to be used like that.

There's nothing wrong with your plan of marrying your fiancee and then being sponsored (once she has become a PR).

However, you should plan to get married in your home country (or her home country). Get married, let her get her PR, and then get sponsored as a PR. That's the most reasonable way of coming to Canada for you.

Ohh I see! Then I should not do a visitor's visa for certain - that would violate the conditions of my stay. What if I apply as a tourist but upon my arrival, I register for full-time studies and apply for the student's visa (study permit)? Or should I, in this case, apply for the student's visa from the beginning instead of applying for the TRV? Or both of these options are not too good... I would wait, as you say, however, her PR is going to take another year (according to processing times) and another year to get the family sponsorship approval :/ This comes up to 2 years which is ot very good, I would try everything to live with her asap

 

[21Goose]

Ohh I see! Then I should not do a visitor's visa for certain - that would violate the conditions of my stay. What if I apply as a tourist but upon my arrival, I register for full-time studies and apply for the student's visa (study permit)? Or should I, in this case, apply for the student's visa from the beginning instead of applying for the TRV? Or both of these options are not too good... I would wait, as you say, however, her PR is going to take another year (according to processing times) and another year to get the family sponsorship approval :/ This comes up to 2 years which is ot very good, I would try everything to live with her asap

If you are genuinely intending to study here, then you can certainly apply for a study permit. The chances of getting that are higher than getting a visitor visa.

If you are trying to get a study permit just to enter Canada to be with her, you will not get it.

So, for example, if you apply for and get accepted into a good Canadian Master's program, one that makes sense given your background, education, age, and job experience, you can apply for a study permit and expect to get it.

But if you get accepted into some random course that has clearly nothing to do with your career growth, you will likely be denied. It's not that easy to get a study permit if you're faking it.

If you want to live with her ASAP, she can move to your country and be with you. Her PR application shouldn't be affected by that.