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Hi everyone,

My PR card was renewed in Feb 2019, which expires in Feb 2024. I am outside of Canada now and am willing to move back. I have calculated my days staying inside Canada and it won't reach to 730 days even I could enter Canada today. So my question: would it be possible to enter Canada with my current PR card by air? Once my staying inside Canada reaches to 730 days, could I renew it in Canada? Thank you very much in advance!
 
Hi everyone,

My PR card was renewed in Feb 2019, which expires in Feb 2024. I am outside of Canada now and am willing to move back. I have calculated my days staying inside Canada and it won't reach to 730 days even I could enter Canada today. So my question: would it be possible to enter Canada with my current PR card by air? Once my staying inside Canada reaches to 730 days, could I renew it in Canada? Thank you very much in advance!
Yes and yes
 
Yes and yes
Oops, I just realized that I've posted my question in the wrong section. It should have been in "Permanent Residency Obligations", as I am not in the US.

I only have around 20 days in Canada so far due to Covid travel restrictions and personal issues. I guess my deadline to go back to Canada was Feb 2022(My PR card was renewed in Feb 2019, expires in Feb 2024). I'm willing to move back to Canada now. So in my situation, is my PR card still valid for entry to Canada or should I apply for Travel Doc now? Would I be reported by the CBSA officer if I fly to Canada this April? Thank you!
 
Oops, I just realized that I've posted my question in the wrong section. It should have been in "Permanent Residency Obligations", as I am not in the US.

I only have around 20 days in Canada so far due to Covid travel restrictions and personal issues. I guess my deadline to go back to Canada was Feb 2022(My PR card was renewed in Feb 2019, expires in Feb 2024). I'm willing to move back to Canada now. So in my situation, is my PR card still valid for entry to Canada or should I apply for Travel Doc now? Would I be reported by the CBSA officer if I fly to Canada this April? Thank you!

If your PR card is still valid, you can use it to board a plane and enter Canada. At the border you might be asked about your compliance. Explian why you weren't. They'll either wave through, possibly with a warning, or start the report (which you can appeal). Either way you can live and work in Canada. (No guarantee that in future you will be treated as leniently)

You cannot apply for a PRTD if you have a valid card.

BUT: your comments about your RO compliance are not clear (or imply you haven't understood the residency obligation).

At any day you are examined, they will look back five years. When you say you 'have 20 days', it sounds incorrect - because unlikely you'd have renewed your card at a point when you weren't resident in Canada. (I suppose it's not impossible, just not likely).

And your card renewal date and card expiry have (almost) nothing to do with the residency obligation - the card is not your PR status, and it is no guarantee of your RO. You need to look at the days in Canada looking back five years (now that you are no longer in the first five years of your PR status).

If it's true that in the last five years (from date of arrival) that you only have 20 days in Canada, you can expect more serious scrutiny than if you have, say, 700 days.
 
If your PR card is still valid, you can use it to board a plane and enter Canada. At the border you might be asked about your compliance. Explian why you weren't. They'll either wave through, possibly with a warning, or start the report (which you can appeal). Either way you can live and work in Canada. (No guarantee that in future you will be treated as leniently)

You cannot apply for a PRTD if you have a valid card.

BUT: your comments about your RO compliance are not clear (or imply you haven't understood the residency obligation).

At any day you are examined, they will look back five years. When you say you 'have 20 days', it sounds incorrect - because unlikely you'd have renewed your card at a point when you weren't resident in Canada. (I suppose it's not impossible, just not likely).

And your card renewal date and card expiry have (almost) nothing to do with the residency obligation - the card is not your PR status, and it is no guarantee of your RO. You need to look at the days in Canada looking back five years (now that you are no longer in the first five years of your PR status).

If it's true that in the last five years (from date of arrival) that you only have 20 days in Canada, you can expect more serious scrutiny than if you have, say, 700 days.
Thank you for the information. I really didn't know that RO and the card expiry were different things. I thought they referred to the same period of time. Due to the pandemic I haven't traveled back to Canada since 2020. Just checked my resident days in Canada and it is 44 days looking back five years now. I guess as you said it's very possible I would face a warning or a report. I'm planning to move back to Canada this year, possibly this April if things go well. So do you have any recommendation that could guide me through? Thank you! I appreciate your time and help.
 
Thank you for the information. I really didn't know that RO and the card expiry were different things. I thought they referred to the same period of time. Due to the pandemic I haven't traveled back to Canada since 2020. Just checked my resident days in Canada and it is 44 days looking back five years now. I guess as you said it's very possible I would face a warning or a report. I'm planning to move back to Canada this year, possibly this April if things go well. So do you have any recommendation that could guide me through? Thank you! I appreciate your time and help.

44 days in Canada since 2017 is not a lot, esp after a renewal. (I"m still wondering how you were able to get card renewed in 2019 if you were not resident in Canada most of 2017-2019. If there's something you're not owning up about, that may complicate things. I presume for example that you had met your RO prior to the card being renewed then).

I think the only significant bits of advice that can be given are:
-Tell the truth, briefly, concisely when asked questions. Don't go into very long explanations or volunteer excess detail. Just the facts.
-You likely will be asked why so much out of compliance - reasons. You can search for what the humanitarian and compassionate factors taken into consideration are (the official reasons why they can be lenient). Figure out in advance what your reasons are.
-Covid can be (and is) a reason that will be taken into consideration - but you should expect to be more detailed. Constraints on travel, health concerns or issues, economic concerns, family issues, etc. Ties to Canada and the like are a factor as well.
-While it's probably unlikely they will look at supporting documents or evidence you have in detail, they might look at some briefly (and having it to hand with you might be helpful.) It doesn't mean you have to have an encyclopedia of proof with you - but having something to hand to show if asked (eg if you or a family member was hospitalized or receiving care).
-I believe it's fair to say they will likely be more lenient if it is clear that you are returning to Canada to stay, and to stay permanently. Make that case credibly, eg employment family housing whatever. As credibly as you can. If you come across as credible and sincere, it will help.
-Be prepared to stay in Canada afterwards with zero or as limited travel as possible until you are back in compliance. Even if you're just waved through or verbal warning, leniency today does not mean it will be extended in future.
-If they go through the process of formally reporting you (the start of the process to revoke PR status), you will still be let into Canada and can appeal. That'll be the chance to have more complete documentation prepared in advance. While that is going on, you can work and live in Canada like anyone else - remaining in and being settled won't hurt your case on appeal.

Good luck.
 
44 days in Canada since 2017 is not a lot, esp after a renewal. (I"m still wondering how you were able to get card renewed in 2019 if you were not resident in Canada most of 2017-2019. If there's something you're not owning up about, that may complicate things. I presume for example that you had met your RO prior to the card being renewed then).

I think the only significant bits of advice that can be given are:
-Tell the truth, briefly, concisely when asked questions. Don't go into very long explanations or volunteer excess detail. Just the facts.
-You likely will be asked why so much out of compliance - reasons. You can search for what the humanitarian and compassionate factors taken into consideration are (the official reasons why they can be lenient). Figure out in advance what your reasons are.
-Covid can be (and is) a reason that will be taken into consideration - but you should expect to be more detailed. Constraints on travel, health concerns or issues, economic concerns, family issues, etc. Ties to Canada and the like are a factor as well.
-While it's probably unlikely they will look at supporting documents or evidence you have in detail, they might look at some briefly (and having it to hand with you might be helpful.) It doesn't mean you have to have an encyclopedia of proof with you - but having something to hand to show if asked (eg if you or a family member was hospitalized or receiving care).
-I believe it's fair to say they will likely be more lenient if it is clear that you are returning to Canada to stay, and to stay permanently. Make that case credibly, eg employment family housing whatever. As credibly as you can. If you come across as credible and sincere, it will help.
-Be prepared to stay in Canada afterwards with zero or as limited travel as possible until you are back in compliance. Even if you're just waved through or verbal warning, leniency today does not mean it will be extended in future.
-If they go through the process of formally reporting you (the start of the process to revoke PR status), you will still be let into Canada and can appeal. That'll be the chance to have more complete documentation prepared in advance. While that is going on, you can work and live in Canada like anyone else - remaining in and being settled won't hurt your case on appeal.

Good luck.
Thank you, armoured, for the detailed reply. I really appreciate it! Regarding my PR card renewal, I lived and worked in Canada for four years(2013-2017) then I left. The card was expired in 2018 then the renewal application was sent when we visited Canada. So I had met the RO prior to the card being renewed.

I'll exercise what you mentioned above, so fingers crossed. Thank you again!
 
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