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CarolH

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Hi all, I'm married to a Canadian citizen. I am a UK citizen. We were married in 2011 and live in the UK - my husband is here on a spouse visa and we both work full time in the UK. We have decided to move to settle down in Canada but I would like to have a visa in place before we move so that i can start working etc when I arrive to have some certainty. I can't see any guidance on applying for a visa on my behalf before we relocate over there. All of my husband's family are in Canada and the plan is to stay with family in Canada until we get jobs etc.

Has anyone else applied for a spousal visa, whilst living outside Canada with their spouse, and then moved subsequently when the visa had been approved?

Any help or guidance is gratefully accepted!
 
This whole forum is full of people who applied and are applying for Spousal Sponsorship.

I'd recommend starting here, with the sticky at the top of the page -

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/spousal-sponsorship-t46995.0.html

There's a lot to know! But the people here have laid it all out pretty extensively. You'll want to apply Outland, given your situation. Good luck!
 
FYI, there isn't really a "Spouse Visa". I presume you're wanting to apply to live and work in Canada as the spouse of a Canadian. This is called Spousal Sponsorship, and you receive and establish Permanent Residency this way:)
 
Hey yes thanks, i've read that sticky and it was helpful - however i'm specifically looking for guidance where a Canadian citizen can be a sponsor when they don't live in Canada (with a view to moving there when a visa is approved). I have been unable to locate any guidance on any of the visa websites as to how we apply in those circumstances - everything that i've found so far relates to applying whilst he's in Canada and I'm in the UK. I'll hunt through some of the posts though. Thank you for your reply.
 
And yep, Spousal Sponsorship is what i'm aiming for! We did it the other way around a few years ago where I sponsored him to be in the UK and it seemed really easy in comparison. Thanks again.
 
CarolH said:
Hey yes thanks, i've read that sticky and it was helpful - however i'm specifically looking for guidance where a Canadian citizen can be a sponsor when they don't live in Canada (with a view to moving there when a visa is approved). I have been unable to locate any guidance on any of the visa websites as to how we apply in those circumstances - everything that i've found so far relates to applying whilst he's in Canada and I'm in the UK. I'll hunt through some of the posts though. Thank you for your reply.

Ah, gotcha. Yes. Lots and lots of people have done this. He must show intent to re-establish in Canada. That means calls to realtors, job offers, etc.. You must prove to the Visa Officer that you will both move to Canada as soon as you get PR. They almost always ask for additional evidence of intent to re-establish in Canada close to the end of the process as well.

I'm sure others can and will provide more info about how much evidence is needed and what they themselves included:)

Wait times at the London Outland VO are currently listed at 28 (?) weeks MONTHS**, but don't let that scare you! Go check out the London VO thread. Most people are approved in much shorter time, the jump is because they are now working applications that were transferred from other Visa Offices. They will be able to give you a realistic timeline in the London Visa Office thread - there will be a spreadsheet and everything!:)
 
CarolH said:
And yep, Spousal Sponsorship is what i'm aiming for! We did it the other way around a few years ago where I sponsored him to be in the UK and it seemed really easy in comparison. Thanks again.

It is certainly a seemingly complicated process. But I assure you, it's not too bad. It was so hard for me to figure out what the heck was going on at first when I was trying to figure it all out, what I needed to do, how I needed to arrange my application, what needed to be in it etc... 2 years into it, I have an infinitely better grasp of the application process.. but at first, it's so overwhelming! Hang in there, there's tons of great and knowledgeable folks on these forums:) The seniors are better than any lawyer, imo.
 
Wow you're a pro! Thanks. And 28 months!? Jeez, we're were hoping to move back in 2018-2019 so I better get on that!
 
@CarolH

Hi there, I am in same situation.. I am a Male Canadian Citizen, living exclusively outside Canada..(because my wife doesn't want to live with her parents) so I had to be with hers.. My sponsorship File is in transit.. hopefully it will be delivered by either on Tuesday or on Wednesday.

Yes I have to prove that I will be living in Canada once my wife gets her PR visa. My case, as the senior member of the forum tells me, is at strong side, because I have a son who is a Canadian by birth(because my being a Citizen). and yes I am on ODSP(Ontario Disability Support Program) and its also a valid reason to prove of Intent to live in Canada.. I have a running bank account, credit cards, safety deposit box as well. Filed my taxes for all years. I have been to Canada in the year 2011, and 2014, since moved out of Canada in year 2010. I have no friends who is currently living in Canada, otherwise their letters would have a big help.
 
Thanks Ipoo - that's helpful. Can you tell me what application form you used so that I can look it up and see how to get things started?
 
@CarolH

check this site..

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/fc.asp

it will give u what forms to be needed.. depends on person to person.. case to case..
 
Well, if you're not wanting to move until 2019, you might want to wait to apply. Like I said before, you need to prove to the officer that you will land and live in Canada as soon as PR is approved. If that's not till 2018/2019, and you applied now, well, they wouldn't go for that - they would deny you and tell you to reapply when you were ready to move :/

Just keep doing your research, and find out what time to apply looks best for you and your situation.

It looks like applications from UK residents are currently taking ~9-11 months in London looking at the folks currently getting decisions made on their applications:)

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/thread-for-outland-london-uk-applications-t49436.17205.html

Here's the FAQ's someone compiled for London apps, stolen from their thread:) http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Spousal_Sponsorship-Canada/FAQ

Along with their wait-times spreadsheet - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kYJ0Xo_jHLeArkCVeicZyqIE8YLpnZqVJlFrnpmKMx0/edit#gid=396125530


Hope that helps! <3
 
I'm an example of what your looking for. I'm the Canadian citizen, married to an American, living in the USA.

What I had to do was prove intent to reside in Canada. It's the thing you want to focus on, even after your application is submitted. Since this is such an ambiguous request, we initially sent in communication with a realtor, some quotes for moving expenses and a few emails from me and some schools.

For proof of marriage, I showed our bank accounts and my bank allows us to narrow down 12 months of deposits only and I printed all the deposits. This way I demonstrated he made the money and it was deposited into our joint account. Plus, I showed all our savings account, stocks, 401K's, his life insurance policies, and the beneficiaries on them were left to each other and 6 pics of us. This was our demonstration that we were married (along with our marriage certificate). We've been married awhile (7.5 yrs) like you, and we have a son together.

When the sponsorship was approved, I then went on to gain more evidence of proof to reside in Canada upon approval. Thats when I bombarded Ottawa's email every time more concrete proof was established. Some examples of what I submitted was proof we paid off our 2012 and 2015 cars and obtained the lien releases. This is pretty good proof since we can export the cars out of the USA and import the cars into Canada (it's hard to export a car with a loan). My husband also submitted his resume to several tech companies, which many responded and I showed all their correspondence in their emails. I showed interviews being setup, and the communications before and past the interview stage. This is the one area I stress to anyone living outside of Canada with their spouse. FOCUS on the proof of intent to reside, and email everything that you gather after the application is gone (the email addy of your VO will be in the SA email). One thing to note, when you do this, give an explanation of why it's proof and then make sure you send only one PDF under 5 MB.

If you look in the spreadsheets, those who are residing exclusively outside of Canada (like us), 9 times out of 10 get a document request for additional proof of intent to reside in Canada. This request can slow your app down by 1, or many months.

Once your spouse receives SA, I recommend about a month later ordering the GCMS notes, every month. Just to assure everything is and has been attached to your file. If you see deficiencies, like a police report wasn't attached etc, you can focus on rectifying this before you receive a document request. Sadly, there have many documents misplaced at either Mississauga or the VO.

Good luck!
 
Thanks Saria1 - that's so helpful. I've spent the last 3-4 hours looking at guides and sites trying to figure out how we do this! I've ready guide 3999 which is approx 60 pages of info; but can you just clarify how it actually works in reality? Eg, we submit our application with all the accompanying evidence which is available, but then you were able to submit further evidence of your intention to move to Canada? Is that right? I expect to have similar correspondence with realtors, recruitment agents/business re job applications to show intention to actually live there so hopefully we'll be ok.

Plus, as one person mentioned above, and the website indicates, was your waiting time over 28 months - on that basis do you have to wait until its all approved before you both move to canada? Or is there an option to move and work whilst the application is being processed.
 
CarolH said:
Thanks Saria1 - that's so helpful. I've spent the last 3-4 hours looking at guides and sites trying to figure out how we do this! I've ready guide 3999 which is approx 60 pages of info; but can you just clarify how it actually works in reality? Eg, we submit our application with all the accompanying evidence which is available, but then you were able to submit further evidence of your intention to move to Canada? Is that right? I expect to have similar correspondence with realtors, recruitment agents/business re job applications to show intention to actually live there so hopefully we'll be ok.

Plus, as one person mentioned above, and the website indicates, was your waiting time over 28 months - on that basis do you have to wait until its all approved before you both move to canada? Or is there an option to move and work whilst the application is being processed.

Please review my comment ^_^ I was actually saying that wait times are NOT 28 months for London, even though that's what's posted on the website. UK residents are getting apps processed in 9-11 months through the London VO This is why I was urging you to apply when you want to be in Canada soon. As an example, Ottawa is currently approving! apps that were sent in January, which came as quite a surprise to everyone. That's only 6 months! WOOHOO! If those people weren't ready to move and land in Canada when they received Decision Made, the officer would have denied them and told them to reapply, from the beginning, when they're ready. This happened to a woman who had 1 more semester of school she was enrolled in. They cancelled her PR and told them to reapply when they were ready.

Saria is a US applicant, and US applications are processed in Ottawa. Wait times there are posted on CIC's website as 16 mos, but we know that they are approved in 8-9 months currently. We were both actually approved in about 8 months through Ottawa.




You can go to Canada while your application is in process, this is one of the benefits of applying Outland - the freedom to travel. They're more lenient when you already have SA or an application in process. But you can only ever tell the border that you're VISITING. You aren't allowed to "move" or "live" in Canada with an application in process. CIC doesn't mind, but Canadian Border Services DOES. I came up to Canada to be with my husband halfway through the process, with just a suitcase and my dog! Told em I was visiting and I've been here ever since, haha. We are visa exempt so we are automatically granted a 6 month visitor visa when we cross the border. If you end up needing to stay longer than that, you can extend your visitor visa easily on the grounds that you have a Spousal PR application in process.

Hope that makes sense! There is no work visa for those who have an Outland PR application in process, unless it's through a separate program like IEC/Working Holiday visas, a work visa from an employer who has filled out a LMIA, etc..

Every visa office has different wait times:)