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elabelela

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Hi all,
My wife and I are permanent residents since 2008. I have a child who was born in 2009 in the USA while I was working in the USA and never followed my child's immigration stuff in Canada since I was not residing in Canada at that time. Now, we have returned to Canada (last month) to re-establish our residency in Canada as I got a job in Saint John. The immigration officer at the border (Ottawa international airport) granted my child a temporary visitor status (form imm 1442) until June and told us that you need to apply for your child to become permanent resident too.
I am so confused of what is the right process to this and what are the forms that I need to fill for this purpose.
Please advise!
Regards.
 
elabelela said:
Hi all,
My wife and I are permanent residents since 2008. I have a child who was born in 2009 in the USA while I was working in the USA and never followed my child's immigration stuff in Canada since I was not residing in Canada at that time. Now, we have returned to Canada (last month) to re-establish our residency in Canada as I got a job in Saint John. The immigration officer at the border (Ottawa international airport) granted my child a temporary visitor status (form imm 1442) until June and told us that you need to apply for your child to become permanent resident too.
I am so confused of what is the right process to this and what are the forms that I need to fill for this purpose.
Please advise!
Regards.

Start here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/fc.asp
 
i have seen these forms, but their language is confusing to me. especially the "region spcific forms" as they talk about outside canada sponsorship. and having to follow the application in a cousulate outside canada. My child lives with me in canada now and not in the USA. So, even though my child lives with me in Canada now, I have to submit out-of-cananda applictaion to Mississauga processing center????!!!!!

Also, how do I go about answering question # 6b and 6c under Section C "person being sponsored" in the the Application to sponsorship and undertaking (imm 1344A). The language of the question address those who are sponsoring their spouses and partners, not their dependant children. my child lives in canada based on the temp. resident permit granted by IO at the airport and has been with me in canada for about a month. Does this mean that the the application will be processed at a visa office in the USA and not in Canada?
please explain!

If anyone had similar experience, please share it with me.....the paperwork is rather confusing :o
 
this is vimal

i have the similar problem
my son was born in usa in aug 2008
that was medical emergency canadian government transported me and my wife to usa
and now upon the renewal of health card this issue arrives

i need information too
thanks
 
Wells Dad said:
Well, I can tell you what I do know.

If you are permanent resident, you must apply from inside Canada, not outside. So you need the forms to apply from inside Canada. (PR's don't have the option to apply outland, unfortunately.) Inland applications are mailed to Vegreville, Alberta.
Also, when we did ours, when I downloaded the forms I also downloaded the instruction sheet with them. Both are usually available in PDF form on the CIC site. I've never use the inland forms myself, but I found the instructions quite helpful for parts of the forms that didn't make sense to me.

It might take a little digging around on the site to find the instruction sheets, but they are there

Also, since you're inside Canada, you can also call CIC for assistance with the forms.

Hope this is helpful, feel free to ask more questions if necessary!


My understanding and if I am wrong i will gladly remove this, is that a PR must be present in Canada to sponsor, unlike a Canadian who can live outside the country with their spouse while doing an outland application. Therefore, if you are applying for a dependant child who is currently outside the country then you would do outland application that starts in Missisauga and ends at the VO office. However, if you are in the country with the child, then you would do his PR inland, which goes to Vegreville. You must also make sure to expend his visitor visa even though he is a baby, you never want that to expire.

Point being it doesn't matter whether you are a PR or a citizen, you can sponsor people outland, you just can't be living abroad as a PR when attempting to sponsor.
 
Wells Dad said:
If you are permanent resident, you must apply from inside Canada, not outside. So you need the forms to apply from inside Canada. (PR's don't have the option to apply outland, unfortunately.)
Just to correct you on this - inland/outland doesn't refer to the sponsor (who in case of permanent residents indeed has to live in Canada), but to the person being sponsored, who can live either in or out of Canada in either case (sponsor being a PR or a citizen).
PRs can thus apply outland as well, and elabelela (and everyone in a similar situation) should also be able to apply outland while having their child stay with them in Canada on a visitor visa (but someone please correct me if I'm wrong).

What's the child's citizenship?
 
fleo said:
Just to correct you on this - inland/outland doesn't refer to the sponsor (who in case of permanent residents indeed has to live in Canada), but to the person being sponsored, who can live either in or out of Canada in either case (sponsor being a PR or a citizen).
PRs can thus apply outland as well, and elabelela (and everyone in a similar situation) should also be able to apply outland while having their child stay with them in Canada on a visitor visa (but someone please correct me if I'm wrong).

What's the child's citizenship?

You are right, it is referring to the person being sponsored. That's why it doesn't matter where the sponsor is (exception is for the PR, who must be living in Canada to sponsor). And yes, you do see cases of outland applications for people who are currently within Canada.(this is because the outland processing is hell-a-lot faster). As Fleo said, this case, the sponsor would have the choice of inland or outland from my understanding too.
 
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nylalisa said:
You are right, it is referring to the person being sponsored. That's why it doesn't matter where the sponsor is (exception is for the PR, who must be living in Canada to sponsor). And yes, you do see cases of outland applications for people who are currently within Canada.(this is because the outland processing is hell-a-lot faster). As Fleo said, this case, the sponsor would have the choice of inland or outland from my understanding too.

There is no inland sponsorship for children in Canada, only spouses and their dependents.
 
PMM said:
Hi

There is no inland sponsorship for children in Canada, only spouses and their dependents.


Thanks for clearing that up. I didn't realize that at all. :)
 
Ooooh, 'Spouse and Common-Law Partner in Canada' class :D Brilliant, thanks PMM for reminding me to read.

So yes, the application will go through Mississauga. Is the process any faster for infants? There is no relationship to prove (well, there is, but DNA tests work much faster :)), no background checks to do... it looks like once the medicals have been passed there's really no reason for delays. Or?
 
Hi

fleo said:
Ooooh, 'Spouse and Common-Law Partner in Canada' class :D Brilliant, thanks PMM for reminding me to read.

So yes, the application will go through Mississauga. Is the process any faster for infants? There is no relationship to prove (well, there is, but DNA tests work much faster :)), no background checks to do... it looks like once the medicals have been passed there's really no reason for delays. Or?

They don't ask for DNA unless there are doubts about paternity (it is very very rare for young children) No background, minimal medical, so it is usually really quick.