sent application out but forgot something :(

[kevwoodfine]

Sent our pr application out - and totally forgot to add a travel date I went to Canada on
it was from my old passport. I wish I added the date I went on this trip as it was in the timeframe I was dating my wife will cic see this date and add it to my application

As it will strengthen my visit record to Canada or won't it matter?

This trip would have made 8 trips to Canada from 2011 to see my girlfriend whom became on wife last year

Thanks everyone in helping me do my forms


God bless you all

 

[fandv]

Sent our pr application out - and totally forgot to add a travel date I went to Canada on
it was from my old passport. I wish I added the date I went on this trip as it was in the timeframe I was dating my wife will cic see this date and add it to my application

As it will strengthen my visit record to Canada or won't it matter?

This trip would have made 8 trips to Canada from 2011 to see my girlfriend whom became on wife last year

Thanks everyone in helping me do my forms


God bless you all

Having those forgotten dates wouldn't hurt for sure

If I were you, I would wait until I get a UCI number, and then send an updated form containing those dates, to the visa office that will process your application.....not sure where you're from...I believe the UK? Which means you'll need to send to the London office...

Don't worry....a friend of mine did something worse: he forgot to sign and date IMM 5540 (Sponsor Questionnaire)! And he sent a signed and dated one, and his wife's PR got approved just fine. They were lucky that their paperwork didn't get returned though...

 

[Halfmoon]

Sent our pr application out - and totally forgot to add a travel date I went to Canada on
it was from my old passport. I wish I added the date I went on this trip as it was in the timeframe I was dating my wife will cic see this date and add it to my application

As it will strengthen my visit record to Canada or won't it matter?

This trip would have made 8 trips to Canada from 2011 to see my girlfriend whom became on wife last year

Thanks everyone in helping me do my forms


God bless you all

Absolutely the additional dates would strengthen your application!!


I would wait until you get sponsor approval and the UCI number. Once your file gets transferred to the foreign visa office, you can send a case specific inquiry using the web portal info they provide on the approval letter and upload the updated information. Good Luck!

 

[kevwoodfine]

won't cic see the info anyway once my details are loaded on the computer?
with all my travel history surely by my name and date of birth.
Or do they need my old passport number to see this?

Just suxs I forgot and I've let my wife down

 

[fandv]

won't cic see the info anyway once my details are loaded on the computer?
with all my travel history surely by my name and date of birth.
Or do they need my old passport number to see this?

Just suxs I forgot and I've let my wife down

Hmmm very good question...being immigration officer themselves, probably one would think that they would have records of incoming and outgoing visitors to/from Canada in their computerised system. I can never know this for sure though...

But like Halfmoon and I said, just send the additional info once you've got your UCI number...we can't and shouldn't count on the fact that they will find out your travel history, so it's better if you send it yourself...

 

[kevwoodfine]

ok will do


I think they must have our travel history on there system

Do all our old passport history link to our new passports.. ?

On the safe side I will email cic once 1st stage goes ok

 

[fandv]

ok will do


I think they must have our travel history on there system

Do all our old passport history link to our new passports.. ?

On the safe side I will email cic once 1st stage goes ok

I think they do too...but on the other hand, computer systems can fail, so it's possible that due to glitches, they may have missing travel records.......I am not saying that that is the case.... . But to be on the safe side it's better to send the history yourself. (Another thing to consider is, since they probably have your travel history to/from Canada, I wonder why they ask us to mention it, since they probably have the info themselves.....strange huh...! I guess we'll never know the answer )

Not sure whether your old passport history links to your new passport. I'm pretty sure there's a link...I mean, Canada is an advanced, hi-tech country...would be hard to believe if they didn't have the links

 

[Halfmoon]

ok will do


I think they must have our travel history on there system

Do all our old passport history link to our new passports.. ?

On the safe side I will email cic once 1st stage goes ok

My back ground is in audit and accounting so I have somewhat of an understanding of why the onus is up to the applicant to provide the evidence
So I'm going to try to help you understand why it's important to provide the information yourself.

When a company gets audited, an auditor may test the transactions that make up the financial statements by requesting the back up documentation that substantiates the balances. Additionally, they will also verify that the transactions are "real" by verifying it with a third party such as the banking institution.

With CIC, whether they do or they don't know all the times you've traveled, you're applying to become a PR of Canada and the onus is on the applicant to provide proofs, evidence demonstrating the bona fides of your relationship and that these proofs are real. Everything you submit will be scrutinized and verified against the source. Essentially, your credibility is also being tested. If everything checks, then it's straight forward. If something doesn't add up, they investigate further. If you leave out material information (staying in another country for more than 6 months, previously deported) and they discover that somewhere in their back ground check, it will be viewed as you are hiding something and certainly cause for a rejected application.

Notice they ask questions on the form and you respond with answers however the answers are not enough because you could be making it up out of thin air hence the reason they check back to the source such as plane tickets, hotel stays, passport stamps and everything else they do behind the scene ie background checks.

In the case of your question, I was implying that you should provide all the evidence that proves your relationship is genuine and if there are additional travel dates visiting your wife that you left out, why not send it to them along with the supporting evidence such as your passport and tickets? If CIC saw that you traveled on x date and y times, they would not have a clue the reasons for your travels without an explanation from you.

Make sense?

Sorry for the lengthy response.

 

[fandv]

With CIC, whether they do or they don't know all the times you've traveled, you're applying to become a PR of Canada and the onus is on the applicant to provide proofs, evidence demonstrating the bona fides of your relationship and that these proofs are real. Everything you submit will be scrutinized and verified against the source. Essentially, your credibility is also being tested. If everything checks, then it's straight forward. If something doesn't add up, they investigate further. If you leave out material information (staying in another country for more than 6 months, previously deported) and they discover that somewhere in their back ground check, it will be viewed as you are hiding something and certainly cause for a rejected application.

Totally agree....couldn't have said it better... . I thought of the above too, but wasn't sure....guess I've been right then!

Now what you said got me thinking, Halfmoon: you know how common law applicants are required to provide statutory declarations from friends and families that the couple's relationship is real? How can the CIC know that those declarations are real and not made up though...?! I wonder why the CIC accepts these friends+family declarations.....if I were the CIC, I would just rely more on more concrete evidence, such as joint bills, joint lease agreements, etc.....

 

[amikety]

If it makes you feel any better, I answered a question wrong. I'll need to send in a new form once my file is in Ottawa.

If you want to be added to the spreadsheet for January, let me know your timeline.

 

[Halfmoon]

Totally agree....couldn't have said it better... . I thought of the above too, but wasn't sure....guess I've been right then!

Now what you said got me thinking, Halfmoon: you know how common law applicants are required to provide statutory declarations from friends and families that the couple's relationship is real? How can the CIC know that those declarations are real and not made up though...?! I wonder why the CIC accepts these friends+family declarations.....if I were the CIC, I would just rely more on more concrete evidence, such as joint bills, joint lease agreements, etc.....

Thanks Fandv.

The testimonial letters from family and friends can be used for spousal applications also. I provided a few.

Compare it to a witness in court. They give testimonies that can support a case though they are not considered "hard" evidence" like DNA however they certainly can make the case for the defendant/prosecution stronger and.or weaker.

If deciding to use testimony letters, it's equally important that the person writing the letter provide their name, contact information and what they do for a living. Visa Officers are trained to detect real/unreal and by reviewing all that is provided and base their decision on the strength of the overal application in addition to the results of the background and security checks. Good Luck!

 

[Sweden]

won't cic see the info anyway once my details are loaded on the computer?
with all my travel history surely by my name and date of birth.
Or do they need my old passport number to see this?

Just suxs I forgot and I've let my wife down

You can always send the information later on, but honestly, I wouldn't worry too much about it! you're married, and you have been with your wife several other times... and you're returning to canada to stay with her during the process...so one more visit or one less won't make much of a difference... I'm sure you have lots of other proofs of relationship, and you're not from a country where you're suspected of marriage fraud or anything - and London has one of the highest approval rates for spousal sponsorship, so I'm sure you'll be fine! I don't think it counts as "letting your wife down" in that case!
Good luck,
Sweden