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[TANMEX]

Hi, how would u consider our situation , my husband Canadian atheist ,I'm Muslim from Philippine. ,and we have huge age gap 25 yrs, education dif level too.never meet both family, not even close friends That's why my husband will hire lawyer, although I can address all those differences and why weren't able to meet family. For me that's ok to get interview so it's easy to explain everything but will cause delay with our application so have to attach additional sheet detail , a long explanation


Thanks

You might have an issue with CIC , Muslim Women can't marry non-Muslim men ! CIC is well aware of that .

 

[ImABule]

You might have an issue with CIC , Muslim Women can't marry non-Muslim men ! CIC is well aware of that .

Philippines is not a Muslim country.. If they legally married there then yes a Muslim woman can marry a non Muslim man. It is not cic job to determine how closely one follows their faith. Just because it goes against Islam doesn't mean Philippines won't let them marry.

If she was in Canada she could legally marry her non Muslim husband as well.

 

[TANMEX]

Philippines is not a Muslim country.. If they legally married there then yes a Muslim woman can marry a non Muslim man. It is not cic job to determine how closely one follows their faith. Just because it goes against Islam doesn't mean Philippines won't let them marry.

If she was in Canada she could legally marry her non Muslim husband as well.

you need to take it down a notch ,
Philippines is a Muslim country ( using your same argument , since there is Muslims people in the Philippines ) , No they cannot marry and won't be leally registered unless they go around it which make it illegal .
It's the Job of CIC to make sure that things are done legally and culturally accepted .
Well she's Not in Canada .

 

[ImABule]

you need to take it down a notch ,
Philippines is a Muslim country ( using your same argument , since there is Muslims people in the Philippines ) , No they cannot marry and won't be leally registered unless they go around it which make it illegal .
It's the Job of CIC to make sure that things are done legally and culturally accepted .
Well she's Not in Canada .

I didn't mean to come across as offensive, I just wanted to point out that the Phil isn't a Muslim country. Yes, there are Muslim people who live there, just as there is in just about any other country in the world. What I meant is that as far as I am aware marriage law doesn't follow Islamic law in Philippines. Because of that their marriage would be legal for immigration purposes regardless if it conforms to Islamic law or not.

On the contrary, I married my Muslim wife in Indonesia, which doesn't allow inter-faith marriage. So, for my marriage to be legal in Indonesia I was required to take the Shahada and claim Islam as my religion during my Islamic wedding. The office of religious affairs legalized our marriage and our marriage certificate states my wife and I are both Muslim.

Neither my wife nor I are overly religious (her family is Muslim but she doesn't practice and I converted because there is no civil marriage in Indonesia) and how religious I am and how closely I follow Islam has absolutely nothing to do with cic. We made it very clear in our application that religion does not play a role in our relationship and that neither of us are very religious.

It's actually very unfortunate that in 2016, one is still required in some parts of the world to convert religion in order to have a legal marriage in my opinion, and like most men with an Indonesian wife I was forced to convert to marry in Indonesia.

 

[TANMEX]

I didn't mean to come across as offensive, I just wanted to point out that the Phil isn't a Muslim country. Yes, there are Muslim people who live there, just as there is in just about any other country in the world. What I meant is that as far as I am aware marriage law doesn't follow Islamic law in Philippines. Because of that their marriage would be legal for immigration purposes regardless if it conforms to Islamic law or not.

On the contrary, I married my Muslim wife in Indonesia, which doesn't allow inter-faith marriage. So, for my marriage to be legal in Indonesia I was required to take the Shahada and claim Islam as my religion during my Islamic wedding. The office of religious affairs legalized our marriage and our marriage certificate states my wife and I are both Muslim.

Neither my wife not I are overly religious (her family is Muslim but she doesn't practice and I converted because there is no civil marriage in Indonesia) and how religious I am and how closely I follow Islam has absolutely nothing to do with cic. We made it very clear in our application that religion does not play a role in our relationship and that neither of us are very religious.

It's actually very unfortunate that in 2016, one is still required in some parts of the world to convert religion in order to have a legal marriage in my opinion, and like most men with an Indonesian wife I was forced to convert to marry in Indonesia.

No offense Taken ,

If it's legal in the Philippines then there is no issues , CIC has no business in people's believes but they scrutinize interfaith marriages .
Good luck to everyone .

 

[ImABule]

No offense Taken ,

If it's legal in the Philippines then there is no issues , CIC has no business in people's believes but they scrutinize interfaith marriages .
Good luck to everyone .

Yes they do scrutinize interfaith marriage. That is why I made it very clear that both of us wanted to have a civil ceremony in Thailand because neither of us are religious but instead decided I would convert in order to marry legally in Indonesia to make her family happy. I was also required to get snipped for them to accept me as being Muslim. We explained that while we aren't religious that I made those choices for us to marry with her family there and we hope that sways the VO opinion to regard us as genuine.

Good luck to you too.

 

[AladdinsGirl]

Sorry for interrupting but I have a question in regards to religion. Where in the application do you need to let them know of your faith?? I haven't seen it anywhere. I'm just curious because I as well became Muslima to marry my husband in Egypt (that is an Islamic country), although I do not practise it (not that it's anyones business) but my husband does.

 

[ImABule]

Sorry for interrupting but I have a question in regards to religion. Where in the application do you need to let them know of your faith?? I haven't seen it anywhere. I'm just curious because I as well became Muslima to marry my husband in Egypt (that is an Islamic country), although I do not practise it (not that it's anyones business) but my husband does.

IMM5490 sponsored spouse questionnaire, it asks what rites (religion) your marriage was performed under. This is where we explained that like you I converted to legally marry but that my wife and I aren't religious. In Indonesia, you are not allowed to not claim a religion. So, although my wife doesn't practice, her family is Muslim and so her religion is claimed as Muslim. This shows on everything from household registry to school report cards to her national ID card. Inter-faith marriage is also not allowed in Indonesia and there is no such thing as a civil wedding either. Hence, I had to convert to Islam to marry my non practicing "Muslim" wife in an Islamic wedding.

CIC tends to scrutinize inter-faith marriages, why I will never understand as love and religion are two very unrelated things, so we made it very clear that religion plays zero role in our relationship and that neither of us are religious.

 

[TANMEX]

IMM5490 sponsored spouse questionnaire, it asks what rites (religion) your marriage was performed under. This is where we explained that like you I converted to legally marry but that my wife and I aren't religious. In Indonesia, you are not allowed to not claim a religion. So, although my wife doesn't practice, her family is Muslim and so her religion is claimed as Muslim. This shows on everything from household registry to school report cards to her national ID card. Inter-faith marriage is also not allowed in Indonesia and there is no such thing as a civil wedding either. Hence, I had to convert to Islam to marry my non practicing "Muslim" wife in an Islamic wedding.

CIC tends to scrutinize inter-faith marriages, why I will never understand as love and religion are two very unrelated things, so we made it very clear that religion plays zero role in our relationship and that neither of us are religious.

I think CIC is not targeting religion in specific , they want to make sure marriages are genuine and to be as such one must follow local customs and traditions .

Non Muslim women can marry Muslim men without the need of changing religion , But only if they are Jewish and Christian ,

Muslim men can't marry other than Jewish , Christian or Muslim women .

 

[ImABule]

I think CIC is not targeting religion in specific , they want to make sure marriages are genuine and to be as such one must follow local customs and traditions .

Non Muslim women can marry Muslim men without the need of changing religion , But only if they are Jewish and Christian ,

Muslim men can't marry other than Jewish , Christian or Muslim women .

It is customary for couples to have a Javanese ceremony on the Indonesian island of Java. My wife's parents are VERY religious and they wouldn't allow us to have the customary Javanese wedding, only the Islamic Nikah as they believed the Javanese ceremony goes against the beliefs of Islam. We also explained in our application why we lacked the traditional ceremony.

 

[yijiequ]

IMM5490 sponsored spouse questionnaire, it asks what rites (religion) your marriage was performed under. This is where we explained that like you I converted to legally marry but that my wife and I aren't religious. In Indonesia, you are not allowed to not claim a religion. So, although my wife doesn't practice, her family is Muslim and so her religion is claimed as Muslim. This shows on everything from household registry to school report cards to her national ID card. Inter-faith marriage is also not allowed in Indonesia and there is no such thing as a civil wedding either. Hence, I had to convert to Islam to marry my non practicing "Muslim" wife in an Islamic wedding.

CIC tends to scrutinize inter-faith marriages, why I will never understand as love and religion are two very unrelated things, so we made it very clear that religion plays zero role in our relationship and that neither of us are religious.

hey.. i am the same boat as you... I am Hui Chinese (our ancestors can be Arab, in China we are considered as Muslim, but i have never practiced at all). I am a Chinese Canadian. I still have to covert in Tunisia to marry my wife, who is a Tunisian. I did state that I officially went thru a conversion in Tunis and both of us are Muslim and I go to Mosque here in Nanaimo, B.C regularly now. Like you said, they asked what your religions in the form. so you answer.. lol.

 

[Alidykeman]

you need to take it down a notch ,
Philippines is a Muslim country ( using your same argument , since there is Muslims people in the Philippines ) , No they cannot marry and won't be leally registered unless they go around it which make it illegal .
It's the Job of CIC to make sure that things are done legally and culturally accepted .
Well she's Not in Canada .

Hi,
I just read this thread again. Just to give information of our system here in the Philippines . Although we do recognize sharia law but still all individual here can marry any religion , we do have civil wedding here regardless of religion. We got married in Hong Kong (civil) last Jan 2016, but we did report our marriage to phili consulate cause marriage abroad is not valid here unless reported. now I'm just waiting to have our authenticated report of marriage. then I can renew my passport to use my husband name then later I will request for advisory of marriage.