Questions on when to submit Outland application, & medical for my partner

[Jonesy319]

Hi,
I've had great advice from this site before, looking for some more please!

I've started collating the information to prove our relationship and will be putting the forms forward for an Outland application soon. (We are currently living together in the UK).

1. We are hoping to move back in July next year but at this point can't be specific. I don't want to submit the forms too early or too late if that's possible, if we submitted them in January and the process is still ongoing can we still move to Canada in July? Would my partner need a return ticket or do we tell immigration we are mid-process?

2. Is it best to wait until we have a definitive date of moving back before we submit the forms?

3. The medical. Would my partner need to have his medical before we moved back to Canada or could he have it done there?

4. Are there any medical reasons they don't accept spouses - my partner has occasional asthma and rheumatoid arthritis for which he is on medication, he has his own removals business over here and nothing stops him working so he wouldn't be planning on abusing the health care system in Canada (he certainly doesn't abuse it here in the UK).

Thanking you in advance for your advice.
Jonesy

 

[Rob_TO]

1. We are hoping to move back in July next year but at this point can't be specific. I don't want to submit the forms too early or too late if that's possible, if we submitted them in January and the process is still ongoing can we still move to Canada in July? Would my partner need a return ticket or do we tell immigration we are mid-process?

2. Is it best to wait until we have a definitive date of moving back before we submit the forms?

Submit the apps within around 1 year from when you think you want to actually move.

3. The medical. Would my partner need to have his medical before we moved back to Canada or could he have it done there?

He would do the medical BEFORE you submit the PR application. Since the medical is valid for 1 year, it should be the last thing you do before submitting the app.

4. Are there any medical reasons they don't accept spouses - my partner has occasional asthma and rheumatoid arthritis for which he is on medication, he has his own removals business over here and nothing stops him working so he wouldn't be planning on abusing the health care system in Canada (he certainly doesn't abuse it here in the UK).

Costs to healthcare system are irrelevant in spousal apps.

They are only concerned with contagious/dangerous conditions i.e. if he had tuberculosis or ebola or something like that

 

[Kayaker]

I can't answer all your questions, but...

1. You can move to Canada in July. If he is visa-exempt, he can come for a "visit" - but they might ask to see his return ticket and documents proving his ties to the UK. There is always a small chance that you might come across a cranky officer who would give him a hard time. In general, people from visa-exempt countries who have already applied for PR and look like they are visiting (that means only having a suitcase or two) can enter Canada without too much of a problem. But it's never guaranteed. It would help if he can bring documentation of having applied for PR, a return ticket, and ties to his home country such as an apartment lease, bank statements, etc. And at the border/customs he should NEVER say he is "moving" or "going to live in Canada". Just say he is visiting, and that at the end of his visit he will either leave Canada, or apply to extend his visitor status. (extensions are done online and pretty straightforward!)

3. His medicals would need to be done BEFORE he applies - a completed medical is part of the application package.

4. I don't think those would be a problem, but perhaps other members can offer more knowledge. As far as I remember, the medicals consisted of a chest x-ray, blood test and urine test. Oh, and maybe the doctor asked me if I have any preexisting conditions, but I don't remember.

 

[Jonesy319]

Submit the apps within around 1 year from when you think you want to actually move.

He would do the medical BEFORE you submit the PR application. Since the medical is valid for 1 year, it should be the last thing you do before submitting the app.

Thanks Rob - we submit his PR at the same time as I submit the spousal sponsorship right? The forms all go together?

 

[SchnookoLoly]

Hi,
I've had great advice from this site before, looking for some more please!

I've started collating the information to prove our relationship and will be putting the forms forward for an Outland application soon. (We are currently living together in the UK).

1. We are hoping to move back in July next year but at this point can't be specific. I don't want to submit the forms too early or too late if that's possible, if we submitted them in January and the process is still ongoing can we still move to Canada in July? Would my partner need a return ticket or do we tell immigration we are mid-process?

2. Is it best to wait until we have a definitive date of moving back before we submit the forms?

Answering both of these at the same time. You can have broad plans but nothing firm and that is completely fine. When my husband and I were applying we wrote specifically that we would be applying for jobs and organising the move AFTER PR was granted, since applying for jobs with PR would be much easier. We then included some details about where we were planning to move (back to my hometown, near my parents, reasonable commuting distance to Toronto which was in all likelihood where we would end up working given our industries) and that was fine. We got my parents to write a letter as well supporting this. So you can just write that you are planning on moving in July, though it may change slightly as you firm up plans, then just include a general outline of your game plan for moving. Totally fine, and totally understandable. WIth that question, CIC mostly just wants to see that you've done some research and you know what you're getting into and you have a game plan, more than wanting ot see specific steps. If you've been for a visit, or have one planned, then include details of that. If you've contacted a realtor to ask some questions about real estate (whether renting or buying) then include those details. And so on and so forth.

3. The medical. Would my partner need to have his medical before we moved back to Canada or could he have it done there?

You have to have the medical done before you send the application off, so do it in whtaever country makes sense given that.

4. Are there any medical reasons they don't accept spouses - my partner has occasional asthma and rheumatoid arthritis for which he is on medication, he has his own removals business over here and nothing stops him working so he wouldn't be planning on abusing the health care system in Canada (he certainly doesn't abuse it here in the UK).

Thanking you in advance for your advice.
Jonesy

Spouses can't be excluded for medical reasons unless they are deemed to be a threat to public safety, so asthma and arthritis aren't going to be a problem at all.

Good luck!

 

[Rob_TO]

Thanks Rob - we submit his PR at the same time as I submit the spousal sponsorship right? The forms all go together?

Yes everything is submitted together (sponsor, applicant and country specific forms, medical receipt, police reports, and all relationship proofs) to CPC-Mississauga. After CPC-M approves you as sponsor, they forward the app to appropriate outland visa office which would be London for you.

 

[Jonesy319]

THANK YOU ALL for your responses!

I feel a lot calmer now - I came back to the UK so my partner and I could prove our relationship and I must admit, I've missed Canada like crazy and can't wait to get back. I have dual citizenship which is why it made sense for me to move first.

I have my own business in Canada - the website is still active. I moved back to the UK in December 2012, went back to Canada three times in 2013 to do work for clients, and I plan to resume my business when we get back there. My friends have already said we can live with them until we find a place, they're in Oakville and I lived in Dundas before moving to the UK. We'll be looking in that area again to reside.

How long possibly could my partner's PR take to be approved? He'll be wanting to work as soon as he can!

 

[Rob_TO]

How long possibly could my partner's PR take to be approved? He'll be wanting to work as soon as he can!

Check the London VO thread: http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/thread-for-outland-london-uk-applications-t49436.14160.html

I think 8-10 months should be a reasonable expectation. Get the process started asap if you intent to move next year.

 

[taffy7]

Your police clearance wont take long 2 weeks max,just be careful of the medical, our panel physician cancelled our appointment 3 times which delayed us sending off our application by 2 months, because she couldn't fit us in. My husband had his done in Canada in a matter of days . My step son had to have his done in the U.K. Good luck.

 

[taffy7]

If you have been filing taxes here in Canada you will need to get your option c printed from revenue Canada , that took a couple of weeks too.