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Fariha_farid

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Please give me some information, a friend of mine lives in Afghanistan and working for US forces he is in great Risk of life, he want to escape the country! He asked me the following questions but I could not answer them. Is there any one to help him? Here are the questions:
1. What is the difference between refugees who flee prosecution and arrive with no documents and those refugees who hold a visa with themselves?
2. What should a refugee do to claim asylum? Is it better to claim asylum at the airport immediately after arrival or they should enter Canada and go to a CIC office inside Canada?
3. Is there a possibility if CBSA deport an eligible refugee if he arrived with no document? How if he arrived with a visa?
 
Someone from Afghanistan cannot come to Canada without a visa. The airline won't let them board the airplane to come to Canada without a valid visitor visa and a valid passport. Yes - someone with a visitor visa can claim asylum. I don't think it matters if you claim asylum at the airport or after arrival. Information on how to claim asylum from within Canada can be found here:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/refugees/inside/apply-how.asp
 
Fariha_farid said:
Please give me some information, a friend of mine lives in Afghanistan and working for US forces he is in great Risk of life, he want to escape the country! He asked me the following questions but I could not answer them. Is there any one to help him? Here are the questions:
1. What is the difference between refugees who flee prosecution and arrive with no documents and those refugees who hold a visa with themselves?
2. What should a refugee do to claim asylum? Is it better to claim asylum at the airport immediately after arrival or they should enter Canada and go to a CIC office inside Canada?
3. Is there a possibility if CBSA deport an eligible refugee if he arrived with no document? How if he arrived with a visa?

If he is working for US forces let them help him and take him away to US
 
IT takes him a long time til US Forces give him a Green card or SIV (Special Immigration Visa) which is particularly designed for such people! He can not wait as i said he and his family members are in great risk of life! Right now they are living in secret and he has resigned from his office due to the risks and dangers! so when he arrived in Canada and was accepted as refugee COULD HE SPONSOR HIS FAMILY MEMBERS TOO? (PARENTS, BROTHER AND SISTER =4) ????
 
scylla said:
Someone from Afghanistan cannot come to Canada without a visa. The airline won't let them board the airplane to come to Canada without a valid visitor visa and a valid passport. Yes - someone with a visitor visa can claim asylum. I don't think it matters if you claim asylum at the airport or after arrival. Information on how to claim asylum from within Canada can be found here:

How if he arrived at the Canadian airport and did not have any document, i mean if he illegaly board the plane or the person who takes him to Canada toke all the documents from him and he had no travel documents but had other Identity documents to prove his identity and documents to prove his eligibility and admissibility!?
 
Fariha_farid said:
so when he arrived in Canada and was accepted as refugee COULD HE SPONSOR HIS FAMILY MEMBERS TOO? (PARENTS, BROTHER AND SISTER =4) ????

CIC is not accepting parent sponsorships at this time. CIC is expected to begin accepting applications again later this year. Once he becomes a permanent resdient, he would be able to sponsor his parents provided he is working and making sufficient income to support them. Note that it takes years for parent sponsorship applications to be process (currently longer than 5 years). So even if he can sponsor them, it will be a long time before they are in Canada.

If his siblings are minors / dependent on his parents, they can be included in the application. If the are not, then he cannot sponsor them.
 
Fariha_farid said:
How if he arrived at the Canadian airport and did not have any document, i mean if he illegaly board the plane or the person who takes him to Canada toke all the documents from him and he had no travel documents but had other Identity documents to prove his identity and documents to prove his eligibility and admissibility!?

Impossible to fly to Canada without travel documents (passport and visa). He will have to make several connections at at each of these connections his paperwork will be checked. Again, impossible.

Why would he want to arrive in Canada without paperwork? Is there something he's trying to hide? If anything, having no travel documents will make the refugee process more complicated.
 
I am an Afghan and I totally understand his situation. Hope one day we will have Democracy and Terrorist free Afghanistan so nobody would think of going out of there..
 
scylla said:
Someone from Afghanistan cannot come to Canada without a visa. The airline won't let them board the airplane to come to Canada without a valid visitor visa and a valid passport. Yes - someone with a visitor visa can claim asylum. I don't think it matters if you claim asylum at the airport or after arrival.

Thanks a lot for the information; i will pass him all the info.
Now i have a question too: there is an agent from a company in here (Pakistan) which charges people about 25000 - 30000$ to give them a 2 years working visa and will send them through Singapore to Canada. And says that you need to work for this company and then you can change your job or even you can ask for asylum! is that right?
1. Can someone who has a 2 years working visa, with a work offer from a company in Canada as for asylum/ refugee statutes?
2. Some people say that if you work in Canada for 2 years (as a foreign worker) and pay taxes, after these 2 years you would have your PR card, is it right?
3. I talked to some one and he said: “NO you can just renew the visa once it is expired and then you might have a ten years working visa and then you could be a Permanent Resident!" is he right?
4. What is the difference between someone who enters Canada with a Visit Visa and someone who hold a 2 years working visa? Which one is eligible to apply for asylum/refugee status?
Thanks in advance!
 
scylla said:
Why would he want to arrive in Canada without paperwork? Is there something he's trying to hide? If anything, having no travel documents will make the refugee process more complicated.

If Canadian law is similar to UK law, the lack of a passport at arrivals makes it impossible to refuse entry and return on the next available flight back to country of origin. This buys time for the person trying to get into the country.
 
Fariha_farid said:
Thanks a lot for the information; i will pass him all the info.
Now i have a question too: there is an agent from a company in here (Pakistan) which charges people about 25000 - 30000$ to give them a 2 years working visa and will send them through Singapore to Canada. And says that you need to work for this company and then you can change your job or even you can ask for asylum! is that right?
1. Can someone who has a 2 years working visa, with a work offer from a company in Canada as for asylum/ refugee statutes?
2. Some people say that if you work in Canada for 2 years (as a foreign worker) and pay taxes, after these 2 years you would have your PR card, is it right?
3. I talked to some one and he said: “NO you can just renew the visa once it is expired and then you might have a ten years working visa and then you could be a Permanent Resident!" is he right?
4. What is the difference between someone who enters Canada with a Visit Visa and someone who hold a 2 years working visa? Which one is eligible to apply for asylum/refugee status?
Thanks in advance!

1) I don't understand this question.
2) No - not true. Completing two years of work in Canada does not automatically give you PR status.
3) No - not true.
4) Both can claim asylum/refugee status.
 
scylla said:
1) I don't understand this question.
2) No - not true. Completing two years of work in Canada does not automatically give you PR status.

scylla said:
1) I don't understand this question.
2) No - not true. Completing two years of work in Canada does not automatically give you PR status.

1. I meant that if some one enters Canada (having a two years working visa); so is he/she able to claim asylum/refugee status? The Agency which helps you obtain these visas says: "you need to work for the company which is inviting you for at least 1 or 2 months, then you can claim asylum; but you can't do it at the airport and as soon as you arrived to the airport!" is that right?
if NOT so is he/she able to claim asylum as soon as arrival to the airport?

2. So how can some one who works in Canada as a general/normal foreign worker, become a PR? how long he should work and pay tax till he/she is eligible to become a PR?

3. What is the difference in duration and procedure between some one who makes a claim at an airport (port of entry) and some some who do it inside Canada? I mean which one is easier and faster?
Thanks a million in advance!
 
1. You can apply for asylum immediately. You do not have to wait.
2. You'll have to research this information on the official CIC web site. I would recommend that you look at the Canadian Experience Class program.
3. No difference.
 
scylla said:
1. You can apply for asylum immediately. You do not have to wait.
2. You'll have to research this information on the official CIC web site. I would recommend that you look at the Canadian Experience Class program.
3. No difference.

Thanks you very very much, it was so helpful!
3. I have heard that making a claim at the airport would result in detaining you! Is it right?
4. I have also heard that by making a claim at the airport your case would be processed very faster! (compared to a claim out of the airport at a CIC office)! True or not?
Thanks in advance!
 
If you claim for Asylum at the Canadian Airport than you will be detained by them and quite possibly deported back to Afghanistan,so you better check the canadian immigration website carefuly or contact the Canadian conulate in Afghanistan for more and accurate info !

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