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It seems clear from that twitter feed, that MOST people are unclear about this question. So, I'm sure they would understand. In my case, I cannot do anything about it, now that my application is already submitted.

At the most they might come back and ask me to clarify it (I hope). And the visa was not even a "visitor" but a "transit" visa. So I'm just hoping it's not an issue. If I were given a do-over of my app, I would, of course, include that stop, just to be safe!

They really should be clearer in the "instruction guide", because it does NOT include "visitor" in those examples!
 
I submitted my application and then saw this post... not sure what to do now. I hold a B1/B2 visa for the United States and have also travelled to countries with on-arrival visas for short trips. Do they return the application?
 
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I submitted my application and then saw this post... not sure what to do now. I hold a B1/B2 visa for the United States and have also travelled to countries with on-arrival visas for short trips. Do they return the application?

I had submitted webform with details of visitor visas later. Decision is made for my application.
 
I had submitted webform with details of visitor visas later. Decision is made for my application.


Hi I have not included my H4 visa in my application . I read your post that you have submitted webform . CAn you please guide me how to do that. Please need help.. thank you
 
Sorry about restarting an old thread- but a bit stuck on this question and could use some advice.
  1. There seems to be conflicting information on whether visit visas should also be included or not. But might as well include it to be on the safe side. Would one also add details of transit visas or just anything (tourist/ visitor) over 10 days or so?
  2. For the from and to dates; do I fill these with dates of travel or till when the visa is valid? For example:
    1. I was in the UK in a temporary resident worker visa which was valid till Jan 2014. But I left the UK n Nov 2013 and didn't head back. So which date goes as "To"
    2. In a visitor visa with 3-months validity (say I had a visa from June to Sept 2017), I only stayed till July to August 2017. So would the dates be June to Sept or July to August? Since the "status" would only be when I'm in the country?
Thanks in advance! Sorry if these have been asked before.
 
Sorry about restarting an old thread- but a bit stuck on this question and could use some advice.
  1. There seems to be conflicting information on whether visit visas should also be included or not. But might as well include it to be on the safe side. Would one also add details of transit visas or just anything (tourist/ visitor) over 10 days or so?
  2. For the from and to dates; do I fill these with dates of travel or till when the visa is valid?For example:
    1. I was in the UK in a temporary resident worker visa which was valid till Jan 2014. But I left the UK n Nov 2013 and didn't head back. So which date goes as "To"
    2. In a visitor visa with 3-months validity (say I had a visa from June to Sept 2017), I only stayed till July to August 2017. So would the dates be June to Sept or July to August? Since the "status" would only be when I'm in the country?
Thanks in advance! Sorry if these have been asked before.
In my application, I did not consider visit visas as resident visas. I had a few valid visit visas during my eligibility period - US, Schengen and Middle East, but since these did not give me the right to live and/or work there, I did not include them.

However each of the trips made under these visas was recorded in the 'absence from Canada' information.

A lot of folks here say that the drop down menu has the option of 'Visit Visa'; I believe that to be an oversight in the form and not because a visit visa is equivalent to a right to live in that country.

This subject has been debated extensively here, but I am sharing what I did.
 
Hello,
Any updates from people who didn’t include visit visas in Q13, did your application go through successfully? Did you have to update IRCC or was it okay without updating them? As I didn’t include visit visas

I am getting my UK residence permit through spousal sponsorship soon and my citizenship application is already submitted. Do I need to update them later about this?

Thank you
 
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This question is the reason I have not submitted my application for a week now. Such stupidity to have contradictory messaging in the citizenship application. Heights of incompetence
 
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This question is the reason I have not submitted my application for a week now. Such stupidity to have contradictory messaging in the citizenship application. Heights of incompetence
Did you submit your application now ? How did you submit did you include all your status ?
 
I did the same mistake and filled only the cizenship of my birth country even though I had Student visa (2013-2014) and work visa (2017-2018) from the UK, Schengan visa (2014) and Visitor visa from the US (from 2019). Any update about what CIC told you? I would really appreciate your response

so what happened? did you mentioned anything at the end? what was the result?
 
Sorry about restarting an old thread- but a bit stuck on this question and could use some advice.
  1. There seems to be conflicting information on whether visit visas should also be included or not. But might as well include it to be on the safe side. Would one also add details of transit visas or just anything (tourist/ visitor) over 10 days or so?
  2. For the from and to dates; do I fill these with dates of travel or till when the visa is valid?For example:
    1. I was in the UK in a temporary resident worker visa which was valid till Jan 2014. But I left the UK n Nov 2013 and didn't head back. So which date goes as "To"
    2. In a visitor visa with 3-months validity (say I had a visa from June to Sept 2017), I only stayed till July to August 2017. So would the dates be June to Sept or July to August? Since the "status" would only be when I'm in the country?
Thanks in advance! Sorry if these have been asked before.
I know this is an old post from a few years ago, but did you ever figure the answer to #2 above in your case ?

i.e. how to enter the 'date obtained or effective date' (From) and 'end date' (To) ?
 
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I know this is an old post from a few years ago, but did you ever figure the answer to #2 above in your case ?

i.e. how to enter the 'date obtained or effective date' (From) and 'end date' (To) ?

Not sure why, but Q 13 has suddenly become a bit of a hot topic lately.

In any event, applicants are not immigration experts and are not expected to be experts. The application is not a test of the applicant's expertise in immigration.

If the applicant discloses they had status and gives their best, honest report of the dates, according to their understanding, that should be OK.

One problem is that just what constitutes "immigration status" is often not all that clear, let alone what the dates are if there is no specific status document specifying that information.

In many situations this information is clear. If it is clear, respond accordingly.

Otherwise, typically status documents (such as IMM 1442, in Canada, which includes work and study permits, or PR cards, Refugee IDs, and visitor records, among others) will better show the relevant information, of course, than travel authorizations (such as the visa, way better than eTA or ESTA) . . . although sorting which is which in passports (for example) can pose a challenge, particularly in regards to countries the traveler is not much familiar with their practices or law. (Whether a person has been given immigration status is determined by the country involved, not Canadian law.) After all, for those carrying visa-exempt passports, many if not most travelers just present their passport (along with any other documents requested by officials) and let the officials handle it, giving little thought as to the formalities.

Q 13 is also being discussed here:

and here:

Figuring out particular dates:

Again, best source is the status document. Visas can be a good clue. And using one's personal judgment in interpreting what they know and reporting honestly.

But as the question about the end date alludes, there are situations in which it is not clear which is the technically correct answer. Thing is, this depends a lot on the rules and law in the country involved. In Canada, for example, the visitor status indicated in a visitor record usually ends if the Foreign National leaves Canada. So the end date for a VR issued for 90 days will be the date they leave, or at the 90 day date if they do not leave sooner.

In contrast, I believe that status attendant some work permits for Canada will allow for exits and re-entry without affecting status, so just leaving Canada prior to the date the permit expires probably does not determine the end date.

I do not know how a similar status works in Austria or Uganda or Ecuador, or even in some of the countries I have visited (this particular question was not asked when I applied for and became a citizen). But for status obtained attendant travel to Austria or Uganda or Ecuador, it is what is prescribed by immigration in Austria or Uganda or Ecuador, respectively, that determines the duration of status.

That said, as long as the applicant discloses having had status in a country, and gives a reasonably honest accounting of the dates, that should be OK. Dates of actual presence probably should be the minimum. Date a permit, or even a visa expires, should easily be safe. If the applicant knows how it works for the particular country, that's what to report. But applicants are not expected to pay a lawyer to do research to figure out exactly what is the technically correct answer based on the law in other countries.

Caveat: just because a person is present in a country does not necessarily mean they have immigration status. There are scores and scores of people in Canada without immigration status for example. Cannot be overstated: who has immigration status in a country depends on that country's rules. In Canada, for example, someone overstaying no longer has immigration status in Canada when their status expires, whether they stay for an additional year or years (without obtaining status again), or like me for three months between when my last VR expired until I made a flagpole trip to the U.S. border in order to consummate my PR landing (back when that was the only alternative).​

Finally, visas, and dates in visas, often either specify detail corresponding to the status given a traveler or are at least a good clue which should help figure out how to best answer Q 13.