QSC and CIC Number confusion/information clash?

[zerogre]

Hi,
I've tried searching for this, but haven't had much luck. I'm an American married to a Canadian living in London. I would like to apply for PR outland here in London and the move to Québec once I'm approved and have everything in hand. However, there's a bit of a wrinkle. In the Guide 3999 for the "Generic Application Form for Canada (IMM 0008)", under question 7, it asks if you have a QSC and, if not, to get it before applying. However on the Quebec Immigration site, it says that you need a CIC Number before filing your Undertaking application.

How does one go about resolving this conflict? If someone has a thread handy that covers it, I would appreciate it, but I just can't seem to find it!

Thanks for any help.

Cheers!

 

[Avadava]

You must send your complete application (both the sponsor's and applicant's forms) to Mississauga to get Sponsorship Approval (SA) first. After the sponsor receives the SA letter, you apply for CSQ right away (you will receive the sponsor's UCI number with your SA). Once the CSQ has been issued, you send a copy of it to the visa office processing stage 2 of the application.

After SA (stage 1) your application will be transferred to the visa office abroad for stage 2(in your case London). They will see you require a CSQ and will send an email requesting it. So it's important to apply for the CSQ as soon as you get the SA letter. Most people have the CSQ ready when the VO requests it, but they give you 30 days to comply, so it shouldn't be a problem.

Note: MICC (Quebec) is supposed to send one copy of the CSQ to the visa office and one copy to you, but sometimes that doesn't happen or it gets lost. So once you receive your copy of the CSQ, keep it until the VO requests it. And you need to send a photocopy of it to the VO, keep the original for your records, you will need it later on in Canada (for when you retire, etc.).

 

[zerogre]

You must send your complete application (both the sponsor's and applicant's forms) to Mississauga to get Sponsorship Approval (SA) first. After the sponsor receives the SA letter, you apply for CSQ right away (you will receive the sponsor's UCI number with your SA). Once the CSQ has been issued, you send it to the visa office processing stage 2 of the application.

After SA (stage 1) your application will be transferred to the visa office abroad for stage 2(in your case London). They will see you require a CSQ and will send an email requesting it. So it's important to apply for the CSQ as soon as you get the SA letter. Most people have the CSQ ready when the VO requests it, but they give you 30 days to comply, so it shouldn't be a problem.

Oh wow, okay, that wasn't super-clear in the documentation on the Canadian website (Or I overlooked something); thank you SO much for your help on this! So, by "complete application", you mean the entire shebang, all documents, photos, supporting documentation, etc, yes?

Thanks again!

 

[Avadava]

Oh wow, okay, that wasn't super-clear in the documentation on the Canadian website (Or I overlooked something); thank you SO much for your help on this! So, by "complete application", you mean the entire shebang, all documents, photos, supporting documentation, etc, yes?

Thanks again!

Yes, the whole shebang goes to Mississauga. They assess the sponsor and make sure all the documentation is there for the applicant (medical exam, FBI clearance, etc.) They will approve the sponsor and send a letter to him/her in this regard. They will also forward the whole application to the VO abroad (they will specify in the SA letter to which VO it was sent). BTW, they decide where to send it, even though you live in England and have been legally accepted in England for at least one year, they might decide to send it to the VO based on your nationality (but in your case, it's not that bad, since straight-forward cases of US citizens are processed in Ottawa - which is a VO as fast as London).

I edited my previous post and included a note to it. Make sure you take that into consideration too.

 

[Aniabella]

Note: MICC (Quebec) is supposed to send one copy of the CSQ to the visa office and one copy to you, but sometimes that doesn't happen or it gets lost. So once you receive your copy of the CSQ, keep it until the VO requests it. And you need to send a photocopy of it to the VO, keep the original for your records, you will need it later on in Canada (for when you retire, etc.).

MIDI (MICC changed it's name) actually sends two copies of the CSQ. The second one is actually the one meant for VO and you have your own copy that you need to hold on to.

London application's oftentimes now are processed also in Mississauga and Ottawa (straightforward cases, London is pretty overflowing) as well, so there's no knowing where the application will end up at. Those actually process faster than London, so there's hoping the application will end up in one of those instead.

 

[zerogre]

Yes, the whole shebang goes to Mississauga. They assess the sponsor and make sure all the documentation is there for the applicant (medical exam, FBI clearance, etc.) They will approve the sponsor and send a letter to him/her in this regard. They will also forward the whole application to the VO abroad (they will specify in the SA letter to which VO it was sent). BTW, they decide where to send it, even though you live in England and have been legally accepted in England for at least one year, they might decide to send it to the VO based on your nationality (but in your case, it's not that bad, since straight-forward cases of US citizens are processed in Ottawa - which is a VO as fast as London).

I edited my previous post and included a note to it. Make sure you take that into consideration too.

Oh, okay, didn't read far enough ahead to know to get the popo/medical clearances, first; this is good stuff -- thank you! Sorry to veer a bit off-topic, but what's the most recommended way to "bundle" all this stuff? Seems like stuffing it all in 1 envelope wouldn't be the wisest of ideas; I was thinking of having 1 envelope for the whole package and clearly labeled sub-envelopes for all the relevant items (1 for supporting evidence, 1 for medical, 1 for policy, etc) Is that overkill?

MIDI (MICC changed it's name) actually sends two copies of the CSQ. The second one is actually the one meant for VO and you have your own copy that you need to hold on to.

London application's oftentimes now are processed also in Mississauga and Ottawa (straightforward cases, London is pretty overflowing) as well, so there's no knowing where the application will end up at. Those actually process faster than London, so there's hoping the application will end up in one of those instead.

Interesting; are Mississauga and Ottawa different processing centres? I'm looking at the wait times and only Ottawa shows up (At this stage, 5 months longer than London, so either they haven't updated London's status to reflect the recent surge in paperwork from Pakistan, or there's something I'm not getting.. hrm..)

Thanks for your help!

 

[Aniabella]

Oh, okay, didn't read far enough ahead to know to get the popo/medical clearances, first; this is good stuff -- thank you! Sorry to veer a bit off-topic, but what's the most recommended way to "bundle" all this stuff? Seems like stuffing it all in 1 envelope wouldn't be the wisest of ideas; I was thinking of having 1 envelope for the whole package and clearly labeled sub-envelopes for all the relevant items (1 for supporting evidence, 1 for medical, 1 for policy, etc) Is that overkill?

Interesting; are Mississauga and Ottawa different processing centres? I'm looking at the wait times and only Ottawa shows up (At this stage, 5 months longer than London, so either they haven't updated London's status to reflect the recent surge in paperwork from Pakistan, or there's something I'm not getting.. hrm..)

Thanks for your help!

Check out this really great spreadsheet from the Thread for Outland London, UK applications - http://bit.ly/1nNv1Tk . You can see the average processing times and the tendencies. Ofc I'm not sure where you will be processed, in Ottawa or through London (and one of it's three options), since they might choose to process you according to your citizenship. You can also check out the Ottawa applicants thread, they also have a spreadsheet and they seem to be processed quite fast as I've heard. Faster than London at the moment.

And it doesn't really matter how you compose your application, since CIC has their own way of arranging it. Just bundle it up in a neat way and that it is easy to figure out what belongs to what, and you shouldn't have a problem. I only divided the whole thing in two parts - Sponsorship Application + related papers and PR application + related papers.