PR Card expiring this week and 790 days in the past 5 years

[MatQue]

Hello guys,

hope so everything is good for each of you. This will be my second renewal of a PR Card. Last time it was April 2016. Hope so next year I can apply for citizenship!!!

My PR card will expire this Friday March 11th. In the last 5 years, for many reasons, I was in Canada for just 790 days. I moved too many times back to Brazil and when I was inside here, from Montreal to Vancouver and then Toronto, where I have been living since October, 2020. From 2016 to 2020 I was in breach of PR Residency Obligation but I crossed the border 5 times and had no problem. Just recently, November 2021 I got to have 2 years again in the last 5 years. My question is: I just filled out the form IMM-5444 to apply for the renewal. Is it likely that I might have problems or be in SR?

Best regards.

 

[scylla]

Hello guys,

hope so everything is good for each of you. This will be my second renewal of a PR Card. Last time it was April 2016. Hope so next year I can apply for citizenship!!!

My PR card will expire this Friday March 11th. In the last 5 years, for many reasons, I was in Canada for just 790 days. I moved too many times back to Brazil and when I was inside here, from Montreal to Vancouver and then Toronto, where I have been living since October, 2020. From 2016 to 2020 I was in breach of PR Residency Obligation but I crossed the border 5 times and had no problem. Just recently, November 2021 I got to have 2 years again in the last 5 years. My question is: I just filled out the form IMM-5444 to apply for the renewal. Is it likely that I might have problems or be in SR?

Best regards.

Renewal will be approved as long as you have at least 730 days. As to whether your application will go to SR, that's hard for any of us to guess. However the closer you are to 780, the more likely you may end up in in SR.

Can you wait another couple of months before you apply? Will that give you more residency days or are you just going to lose days off the start of the preiod and still be in the same situation?

 

[MatQue]

Renewal will be approved as long as you have at least 730 days. As to whether your application will go to SR, that's hard for any of us to guess. However the closer you are to 780, the more likely you may end up in in SR.

Can you wait another couple of months before you apply? Will that give you more residency days or are you just going to lose days off the start of the preiod and still be in the same situation?

I will start to lose days off again just by August 16th. I could wait 5 more months to apply. I would have 2 years and 7 months rather than 2 years and 2 months now. It would also be likely to end up in SR anyway. I just want to have the card renewed by December, when probably I will go to Brazil for a couple of weeks, so I can finally apply for citizenship.

Thanks for your answer!

 

[scylla]

I will start to lose days off again just by August 16th. I could wait 5 more months to apply. I would have 2 years and 7 months rather than 2 years and 2 months now. It would also be likely to end up in SR anyway. I just want to have the card renewed by December, when probably I will go to Brazil for a couple of weeks, so I can finally apply for citizenship.

Thanks for your answer!

Sorry, my brain is tired. You have two extra months now. That's not bad. Doesn't guarantee you won't go the SR route but it's not bad overall.

 

[MatQue]

Sorry, my brain is tired. You have two extra months now. That's not bad. Doesn't guarantee you won't go the SR route but it's not bad overall.

Not at all a problem! Thank you for your attention!

 

[Samrao100]

Sorry, my brain is tired. You have two extra months now. That's not bad. Doesn't guarantee you won't go the SR route but it's not bad overall.

So I read in another post that " if you can fully document your 730 days of Residence, dont worry if your case goes into SR" ... my situation is Jan 15, 2023 I'll be completing exactly 730 days , will wait for 2 more days, apply & leave Canada to be with my 92 year old mother in India right away ( who'll be by herself all of this year 2022) . And wait for the outcome of my application until a decision made few? Months later? So wondering if they'll call me for SR in India or will grant me a PRTD & explain my Compliance at a CIC office here in Canada, but anyway I've full documentation of my absences & entries... waiting even longer seems too much in my situation

 

[armoured]

So I read in another post that " if you can fully document your 730 days of Residence, dont worry if your case goes into SR" ... my situation is Jan 15, 2023 I'll be completing exactly 730 days , will wait for 2 more days, apply & leave Canada to be with my 92 year old mother in India right away ( who'll be by herself all of this year 2022) . And wait for the outcome of my application until a decision made few? Months later? So wondering if they'll call me for SR in India or will grant me a PRTD & explain my Compliance at a CIC office here in Canada, but anyway I've full documentation of my absences & entries... waiting even longer seems too much in my situation

This is jumping around between threads but: once again, should you need urgently to go to your home country, even short of the full days for RO, you CAN apply for a PRTD to return - providing reasons for H&C consideration.

I think at this point the PR card renewal is a red herring. It will come up later.

No-one can tell you in advance how that will work out. But for someone who is resident in Canada for close to a couple years or even was just in compliance (eg in your Jan 2023 case), and leaves for a month (for example) to care for a sick parent, the chances of a postivie decision on PRTD are ... not bad. Best we can do.

The factors that affect positive decisions on that are covered as well: how much out of compliance, how much the applicant is 'settled' in Canada (factually residing), how long was the absence, and other factors.

You can read other threads here about this. But it is far from a tremendously strict system - there is a fair amount of lenience - at least for good reasons.

Get more acquainted with the PRTD and H&C factors (here or wherever) before trying to figure out how to game or work the PR card system to meet some hypothetical travel plans in future.

(Shorter answer, it's probably not a good idea to apply to renew PR card as soon as getting the minimum number of days and then immediately leave on a long trip. You'd be out of compliance by the time they opened the mail, AND you'd be out of the country, getting more out of compliance.)