PLEASE HELP !!! Wrong calculation from simulator

[nana23]

HI,

I did a simulation to know when I can be eligible for my citizenship.


Arrival date: 2005-09-05

Permanent residence date: 2013-05-05

Application date: 2015-05-05

Basic residence (days): 1095

Time spent serving a sentence (days): 0

Days absent: 196.5

Physical presence (days): 899

Which should mean that I have to make up those 196.5 days but Immigration canada calculator states that I have to wait a year. WHY is that so??

According to the information you provided, you meet the basic residence requirement but you have not been physically present in Canada for at least 1,095 days (three years) in the four years (1,460 days) preceding the date of your application.According to the information you provided and assuming nothing else changes, you will accumulate 1,095 days of physical presence on 2016-05-03.

If anybody can help me PLEASE

 

[Desert Lion]

For the current system if am not mistaken
1. Every day you spent before you become a permanent resident of Canada counts as half day, for a maximum of one year
2. Every day you spend after percent residency in Canada counts as one full day
3. Every day you spend outside Canada gets doubled, that means, if you spent 196.5 days times 2, which is more than a year,
I am not very sure if thus is correct, but you either ask CIC or someone may help us by his comments to correct me if I am wrong

 

[sept15]

HI,

I did a simulation to know when I can be eligible for my citizenship.


Arrival date: 2005-09-05

Permanent residence date: 2013-05-05

Application date: 2015-05-05

Basic residence (days): 1095

Time spent serving a sentence (days): 0

Days absent: 196.5

Physical presence (days): 899

Which should mean that I have to make up those 196.5 days but Immigration canada calculator states that I have to wait a year. WHY is that so??

According to the information you provided, you meet the basic residence requirement but you have not been physically present in Canada for at least 1,095 days (three years) in the four years (1,460 days) preceding the date of your application.According to the information you provided and assuming nothing else changes, you will accumulate 1,095 days of physical presence on 2016-05-03.

If anybody can help me PLEASE

Few facts here:

question: what were your absences between may 5, 2011 to may 5, 2015.... break it down into two: from may 5, 2011 to may 5, 2013 AND from may 5, 2013 to may 5, 2015...

1. Lets assume you can have the maximum number of days accumulated prior to Permanent Residence (prior to May 5, 2013)... FYI, you can only count 1 year maximum prior to becoming a PR and each day counts as 1/2 day.....and remember only consider May 5, 2011 - to May 5, 2015...

2. If you became a PR on May 5, 2013 and again lets assume you did not leave the COuntry until you become eligible (according to present Section 5 of The Citizenship Act) for Citizenship, then you will have 2 years accumlated (after becoming a PR) on May 5, 2015...

3. Since CIC requires 1095 years (3 years total), and if you count 1. and 2. above, you will become eligible on.....

I assume, and we all assume by 2015, The Citizenship Act will be amended as per Bill C-24.

For now, just enjoy being a PR and wait for the right time to come...


I MIGHT BE TOTALLY OFF HERE... you need to provide more information...

 

[scylla]

3. Every day you spend outside Canada gets doubled, that means, if you spent 196.5 days times 2, which is more than a year,

No - it doesn't.

 

[scylla]

Which should mean that I have to make up those 196.5 days but Immigration canada calculator states that I have to wait a year. WHY is that so??

The method used by the calculator to determine citizenship eligibility is correct.

My guess is that you were outside of Canada for more than a year over the last for years. That's why you need to accumulate another year of residency before you apply.

 

[chakrab]

No - it doesn't.

it kinda does if the days spent outside were before PR. for days prior to PR, you gain 0.5 days for every day present but lose 1 day for every day absent. days before PR are extremely dodgy and any vacation done during that time hurts more.

 

[Goldline]

HI,

I did a simulation to know when I can be eligible for my citizenship.


Arrival date: 2005-09-05

Permanent residence date: 2013-05-05

Application date: 2015-05-05

Basic residence (days): 1095

Time spent serving a sentence (days): 0

Days absent: 196.5

Physical presence (days): 899

Which should mean that I have to make up those 196.5 days but Immigration canada calculator states that I have to wait a year. WHY is that so??

According to the information you provided, you meet the basic residence requirement but you have not been physically present in Canada for at least 1,095 days (three years) in the four years (1,460 days) preceding the date of your application.According to the information you provided and assuming nothing else changes, you will accumulate 1,095 days of physical presence on 2016-05-03.

If anybody can help me PLEASE

You did not give all details about your situation. That's why everybody is just guessing ore assuming.
An important information we need to know first. The time spent outside of Canada was it before you became PR or after????
Here is my view. You became PR 2013-05-05 so according to the law you need to have accumulated 2 years AS A PERMANENT RESIDENT. so you can theorically apply on 1015-05-05. Now we need the answer to the above question... any time you spent outside of Canada since you became PR you add it to this date to make up for the 2 years requirements.
now, you need 2 more years as non resident to make up for the 3 rd year required. again how much time did you spend outside of Canada before becoming PR.
Finally remember that you can only count time spent in Canada during the 4 years before you apply.
if you still can't figure out your counts please give us exact dates of your absence and we'll make things clear for you.

 

[Goldline]

Also keep in mind that you will definitely apply under the new law ( 4 years requirement as PERMANENT RESIDENT) so forget about the time you spent before becoming PR, forget about the results from the residence calculator and get ready to apply in may 2017.
the new law my not pass this year but definitely it will, before you become eligible. Bad news but I wish I had a better one.

 

[keesio]

Which should mean that I have to make up those 196.5 days but Immigration canada calculator states that I have to wait a year. WHY is that so??

It's because you are using days you lived in Canada before you became a PR into your calculations. on 5/5/2015, you will be 196.5 days short. So you need to apply at a later date. But because you need 1095 days out of the last four years, if you wait one day (apply on 5/6/2015), you only gain 0.5 days for residency (so you will be 196.0 days short). Why is that instead of gaining one whole day? Again, that is because you are using days living in Canada before PR status. Those days are counted at 0.5 days. So:

5/5/2011 - 5/5/2015 - 196.5 days short

If you apply a day later:
5/6/2011 - 5/6/2015 - 196.0 days short

You lose the 0.5 day you were using from 5/5/2011 but gain 1.0 day from 5/6/2015. So the NET gain is only 0.5 days.

So while you are 196.5 days short, it doesn't mean you just have to wait 196.5 days later to apply. You have to take into account that you are losing 0.5 pre-PR days for every 1.0 post-PR days you gain.

Hope this makes sense

 

[nana23]

It's because you are using days you lived in Canada before you became a PR into your calculations. on 5/5/2015, you will be 196.5 days short. So you need to apply at a later date. But because you need 1095 days out of the last four years, if you wait one day (apply on 5/6/2015), you only gain 0.5 days for residency (so you will be 196.0 days short). Why is that instead of gaining one whole day? Again, that is because you are using days living in Canada before PR status. Those days are counted at 0.5 days. So:

5/5/2011 - 5/5/2015 - 196.5 days short

If you apply a day later:
5/6/2011 - 5/6/2015 - 196.0 days short

You lose the 0.5 day you were using from 5/5/2011 but gain 1.0 day from 5/6/2015. So the NET gain is only 0.5 days.

So while you are 196.5 days short, it doesn't mean you just have to wait 196.5 days later to apply. You have to take into account that you are losing 0.5 pre-PR days for every 1.0 post-PR days you gain.

Hope this makes sense

It does make sense THANKS A LOT, and I have to wait another year unfortunately. Almost 11 years in this country and I have had my share of international student fees and visas and permits and NOW I will have to wait to become a citizen especially if that new Bill C-24 become effective.

 

[nana23]

Also keep in mind that you will definitely apply under the new law ( 4 years requirement as PERMANENT RESIDENT) so forget about the time you spent before becoming PR, forget about the results from the residence calculator and get ready to apply in may 2017.
the new law my not pass this year but definitely it will, before you become eligible. Bad news but I wish I had a better one.

When will this bill be effective ?? :'(

 

[chakrab]

depending on where you live, your application may take close to 2 years for processing under the current system.

 

[nguyentu2001]

It does make sense THANKS A LOT, and I have to wait another year unfortunately. Almost 11 years in this country and I have had my share of international student fees and visas and permits and NOW I will have to wait to become a citizen especially if that new Bill C-24 become effective.

the law is the law.
many of us were student and came here when we were much younger.
You are not qualified under the current law to apply now, not considering the new law so wait is your only option if you want to become canadian