Paying application fees for no reason.

[Need Canadian Pr]

On month of October 2016 I send an application to CIC to amended my original entry date in my COPR.

Still I have not received any update from CIC , I know it is too early because it may will take 6 month

Recently I called to CIC call centre and she said still in process.

Here is my summary:

I came in Canada 2013 December 20 as a working visa
I went to holiday back home 2014 October 4
I return in Canada 2014 November 20.


2015 December I got my PR but in COPR is written incorrect information , it was written

Org entry date : 2014 Nov 20
Last entry date : 2014 Nov 20

It is 1000% incorrect it would be :


Org entry date : 2013 Dec 20
Last entry date : 2014 Nov 20


The reason i am wonder because may be C6 bill will come back and i will get one year credit for my citizenship application while i was working visa.


When I called CIC call centre and requested to tell me what is the original entry date have in your computer she says Nov 20 2014.
It makes me so surprise that how come in CIC computer my original entry date written incorrect.

My question: I paid $550 for my PR application, they took money but didn't entered information correctly.

 

[dpenabill]

On month of October 2016 I send an application to CIC to amended my original entry date in my COPR.

Still I have not received any update from CIC , I know it is too early because it may will take 6 month

Recently I called to CIC call centre and she said still in process.

Here is my summary:

I came in Canada 2013 December 20 as a working visa
I went to holiday back home 2014 October 4
I return in Canada 2014 November 20.


2015 December I got my PR but in COPR is written incorrect information , it was written

Org entry date : 2014 Nov 20
Last entry date : 2014 Nov 20

It is 1000% incorrect it would be :


Org entry date : 2013 Dec 20
Last entry date : 2014 Nov 20


The reason i am wonder because may be C6 bill will come back and i will get one year credit for my citizenship application while i was working visa.


When I called CIC call centre and requested to tell me what is the original entry date have in your computer she says Nov 20 2014.
It makes me so surprise that how come in CIC computer my original entry date written incorrect.

My question: I paid $550 for my PR application, they took money but didn't entered information correctly.

Not clear what the question is.

Otherwise:


Stuff happens!

IRCC (in 2013 and 2014 it was CIC) is a bureaucracy, a big one, not a mythical magical kingdom where all is perfect.

That is why, for example, there are multiple layers of review available for most procedures. In addition to that, clients may request Canadian government agencies to correct more or less obvious errors, and that decision too (if denied) is usually subject to at least one level of review.

As to the extent to which the records can be wrong, there is the example of the recent Mandric v. Canada (Citizenship and Immigration) case; see
http://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fc-cf/decisions/en/item/218676/index.do
a case which refers to serious errors in a client's GCMS records.

The Federal Court justice in that case remarked:

"In my respectful view, the GCMS information regarding the default was not just incorrect, but egregiously so: wrong parties, wrong dates and the wrong duration."

For emphasis: "wrong parties, wrong dates and the wrong duration."

While that had to do with a citizen purportedly being ineligible to sponsor a spousal PR applicant due to a default in a prior undertaking, it amply illustrates the extent to which the records can get screwed up . . . and illustrates there avenues available to rectify such things.

 

[Need Canadian Pr]

Not clear what the question is.

Otherwise:


Stuff happens!

IRCC (in 2013 and 2014 it was CIC) is a bureaucracy, a big one, not a mythical magical kingdom where all is perfect.

That is why, for example, there are multiple layers of review available for most procedures. In addition to that, clients may request Canadian government agencies to correct more or less obvious errors, and that decision too (if denied) is usually subject to at least one level of review.

As to the extent to which the records can be wrong, there is the example of the recent Mandric v. Canada (Citizenship and Immigration) case; see
http://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fc-cf/decisions/en/item/218676/index.do
a case which refers to serious errors in a client's GCMS records.

The Federal Court justice in that case remarked:

"In my respectful view, the GCMS information regarding the default was not just incorrect, but egregiously so: wrong parties, wrong dates and the wrong duration."

For emphasis: "wrong parties, wrong dates and the wrong duration."

While that had to do with a citizen purportedly being ineligible to sponsor a spousal PR applicant due to a default in a prior undertaking, it amply illustrates the extent to which the records can get screwed up . . . and illustrates there avenues available to rectify such things.

In my COPR orginal entry date was written wrong.
I send an application ( IMM 1436 ) to correct it.

Do you think IRCC can correct it for me .

thanks

 

[dpenabill]

In my COPR orginal entry date was written wrong.
I send an application ( IMM 1436 ) to correct it.

Do you think IRCC can correct it for me .

thanks

I am no expert. I am not qualified to give personal advice. Even someone who is an expert and qualified to give personal advice would probably need a lot more information, more information than a person should disclose in a forum like this, to reach any conclusions . . . and that would still only be an opinion.

That said, ordinarily the PR signs the CoPR at the time of landing, and in doing so affirms the accuracy of the information in the CoPR. Before you signed the CoPR, or at least then at the time of landing, was probably the proper time to raise the issue.

I do not know how this goes for this particular situation. Usually a failure to timely raise an issue closes the door on raising it later. With some latitude if it is raised within a relatively reasonable time later.

Years later? Grimace, wince, shrug, I don't know.

But, the impact of the data in the CoPR can vary. I do not know that the information in the CoPR is conclusive relative to other processes. If, for example, the law changes and credit for time in Canada prior to becoming a PR is available, my sense is you would be able to state when you came to Canada and were in Canada, and get credit for that time, subject to proof of course. That is, that the date of original entry into Canada on the CoPR may not be controlling . . . probably is not controlling (but I am not sure about this).


Note: the original date of entry field is empty in my CoPR. Since I had formal status in Canada before the date of landing, I suppose that is in error by omission. Where it might make a difference for me is that this date is important for purposes of qualifying for Canada's Old Age Pension . . . but I was too old to get in ten years (before eligibility date, ten years being the minimum to qualify for the Canadian OAS pension) even if one goes by the date I originally had formal status in Canada. (Yeah, no millennial tapping the keys here.)