Pay Slips for CEC application

[mack_ra]

Hi Experts,

For CEC application do we need to submit the payslips for

1. entire period of emloyment OR
2. Last 1 year OR
3. Only few latest ones

Thanks!

 

[cecnov2013]

It isnt mandatory, but you could all the pay stubs that you have

 

[CEC2013]

It isnt mandatory, but you could all the pay stubs that you have

Agreed. Not mandatory, but if you so choose to provide, then go for it. I provide some just to show that I am still employed, and got my T4 and NOA late, so I provided slip to show tax deductions. Really depends on why you are including them.

 

[mack_ra]

And did you get the pay stubs notarized ?

 

[canadavisa13]

hi mack_ra,

did you read the documents checklist at all,i would suggest you read it first and then come back here if you still have any questions.note that CIC website should be your primary source of informations,this forum is only to help sharing timelines and providing solutions based on applicant's solely experiences.
once again no notarizing of documents is required for CEC applicants at this time.
pay stubs,job offers letters,contracts,records of employment are only supporting documents but not mandatory so its up to you if you want to include them,you know your application better then anyone.
if you do choose to include pay stubs then please do not include every single one for the whole 12 months,just the last one will do because it shows YEAR TO DATE income.

good luck

 

[Caribou]

It isn't mandatory, but my employer would not write me the letter I want (they have a company standard letter format).
So, my consultant suggested to attach ALL paystub. Good thing my company uses electronic paystub now, so I printed EVERY SINGLE paystub and attached it in the bottom with the hours showing.

 

[canadavisa13]

i agree Caribou,in that case include all pay stubs and attach a very good and detailed cover letter then pray hard to get your eligibility passed.
not to discourage you but unfortunately we have seen very rare cases when CIC approves them without a detailed reference letter that includes duties and responsibilities.
even though you submitted your application,there is no harm to keep trying hard with your employer to get that letter even from your direct manager or supervisor and submit it later to CPP-ottawa once you receive your AOR.
if you are unlucky to get such a letter from your employer then you have done what you can and now its time to sit tight and wait for the outcome(hopefully positive).

good luck

 

[canadavisa13]

Caribou,

i would like to add that pay stubs confirms hours worked but not duties and responsibilities performed,the reference letter is the only document for the immigration officer to check that you performed such a duties according to your declared NOC.please note that you can include job offer letters and contracts such as supporting documents.
i have seen in your timeline that you received your(you are a january applicant so you should hear from CIC within few weeks if not days) if you didn't order GCMS notes i would suggest it you give it a go,its very informative and will show you the visa officer's comments,from there if you see any concerns you can address them before they make a decision in your application.

once again good luck

 

[Caribou]

Caribou,

i would like to add that pay stubs confirms hours worked but not duties and responsibilities performed,the reference letter is the only document for the immigration officer to check that you performed such a duties according to your declared NOC.please note that you can include job offer letters and contracts such as supporting documents.
i have seen in your timeline that you received your(you are a january applicant so you should hear from CIC within few weeks if not days) if you didn't order GCMS notes i would suggest it you give it a go,its very informative and will show you the visa officer's comments,from there if you see any concerns you can address them before they make a decision in your application.

once again good luck

No chance with my manager, she doesn't want anything to do with it. Let alone print them out in company letterhead and have her sign it? Gosh.
I also attached job offer, which doesn't have a clear cut job duties. but had one page list of job duties on plain paper.
I attached her business card and mine with job title.
My job is a regulated one, so attached copy of my license... so hopefully it helps.
I've ordered CGMS notes in Aug, nothing has started. I ordered another one last week, and we'll see.
Sometimes, it's not good to work for a big company because every document has its own format and so hard to tailor to your needs. My company's colleague info centre(which is in Ont, but I work in B.C.) plain refused me to even include couple of job duties on the letter of employment. such a bureaucracy!

Long story short, I highly recommend attaching paystub copies.

 

[canadavisa13]

Caribou

i really feel for your frustration and wish you get approved this time.
but do you realize that pay stubs does not confirm job duties and responsibilities,they can be used as supporting documents for hours worked.
job offer letters and contracts are dated back to when you was going to join the company even though they can sometimes include a full details of duties and responsibilities but the immigration officer will have a hard time deciding based on those documents because for him/her you are eligible once you finish one year of full time or equivalent in part time of skilled work and for those your reference letter has to be dated after you complete the one year requirement not before.
CPP-ottawa in most cases will not call employer to confirm job duties and responsibilities.its your application and you should do everything within your capacity to ensure its approval.
if you can get a manager/supervisor or anyone in your company with a higher position then yours to give you a reference letter even in a plain paper with his/her signature,including phone number and contact information and attach a business card of the signing person then do it right away.
if you can not approach anyone within your company then im sorry to say that your chances of rejection are big and you shouldn't have a big hope,although its good to be optimist because life doesn't end here
by the way can you share the reason of refusal for your FSW2?

thanks Caribou

 

[CEC2013]

And did you get the pay stubs notarized ?

Notarized? Nah... My employer is a government agency and everything issued by them carries their logo and info. It can easily be verified. You would only want to notarize if there are doubts about how genuine the info is. I doubt that CIC would contest documents bearing the seal, logo and info of another gov agency. Thats just my case.

But from what I have seen, no one has mentioned notarizing their pay stubs. As long as its identifiable to your company, you are good to go.

 

[CEC2013]

but do you realize that pay stubs does not confirm job duties and responsibilities,they can be used as supporting documents for hours worked.
job offer letters and contracts are dated back to when you was going to join the company even though they can sometimes include a full details of duties and responsibilities but the immigration officer will have a hard time deciding based on those documents because for him/her you are eligible once you finish one year of full time or equivalent in part time of skilled work and for those your reference letter has to be dated after you complete the one year requirement not before. CPP-ottawa in most cases will not call employer to confirm job duties and responsibilities.its your application and you should do everything within your capacity to ensure its approval. if you can get a manager/supervisor or anyone in your company with a higher position then yours to give you a reference letter even in a plain paper with his/her signature,including phone number and contact information and attach a business card of the signing person then do it right away. if you can not approach anyone within your company then im sorry to say that your chances of rejection are big and you shouldn't have a big hope,although its good to be optimist because life doesn't end here

Stand behind your reasoning here. The reference letter is a key piece, and unless you can deliver something, there's a pretty good chance of rejection. I would like to note that there is however a benefit in pay stubs, as they can confirm quite a bit. My pay stubs for instance, include title, pay, hours, benefits, tax deductions, gov employee id, and more. But, this is only meant to be a supporting document, in addition to the reference letter. So, basically, to confirm something there may be confusion about. Its not meant to serve as primary evidence in your application. If you have no other choice, than I say use everything at your disposal and make the case. If you cant get the letter, attach formal communication between you and manager/hr in which they reject your request for reference letter and any subsequent communication about the matter. An explanation letter to the circumstances. Try to get one of your coworkers to help you out. Whatever works!

 

[canadavisa13]

CIC uses google to do an online quick search if they have doubt about a company,sometimes the also do a verification call.
not every company has a logo,seal and such.a lot of small companies only use plain paper,so as long as documents are written on letter head and include company contact informations then its fine because CIC will be able to identify them.

 

[CEC2013]

CIC uses google to do an online quick search if they have doubt about a company,sometimes the also do a verification call.
not every company has a logo,seal and such.a lot of small companies only use plain paper,so as long as documents are written on letter head and include company contact informations then its fine because CIC will be able to identify them.

No arguments there. And thats understandable. Also why I said that thats my case. Very much depends on the circumstances of the inidividual. It is incumbent of the applicant to make the effort to prove to the VO that they qualify. So as long as it seems legitimate and you have some hard factual evidence to substantiate your claim, should be good.

 

[Caribou]

CIC uses google to do an online quick search if they have doubt about a company,sometimes the also do a verification call.
not every company has a logo,seal and such.a lot of small companies only use plain paper,so as long as documents are written on letter head and include company contact informations then its fine because CIC will be able to identify them.

I'll consult that with my immigration consultant to see if it's better for my manager to include just job duty and sign it. As far as my case goes, the department doesn't really have access to company letter head and I think it might be more suspicious if I do not use company letter head. (It's a really well known top 100 Canadian company) for any verification issues, it needs to go through bookkeeper at local level then to headquarter. Like I said before. I hate this beauroucracy

My fs2 got rejected because of short work experience.
I knew it'd be rejected but they wanted to give it a try anyway.

There are other factors I'm iffy about too, but you can go on and on about them, right?