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amitsil

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i met my now wife Sept 2018. we were both international students.She was in just in her 1st semester of her program. i was in my 3rd semester. she barely attended classes.she worked fulltime for 3weeks violating her study permit. i believe she was dismissed from her college thou she claimed she withdrew. we married Feb.2019. She went home to our country.and regrets it. Im now on PGWP working in a NOC 0 position since May 2019. She wants me to get her a SOWP
Will CIC know that she did not attend classes and was working fulltime for 3weeks? and will refuse the application for that reason?
the fact she went home on her own is that seen as a positive by CIC?
 
 

bongoman

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Dont think there is any issue. IRCC doesnt know anyones working hours and she went home by herself after being dismissed/dropping out which was the correct thing to do.
 

amitsil

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i met my now wife Sept 2018. we were both international students.She was in just in her 1st semester of her program. i was in my 3rd semester. she barely attended classes.she worked fulltime for 3weeks violating her study permit. i believe she was dismissed from her college thou she claimed she withdrew. we married Feb.2019. She went home to our country.and regrets it. Im now on PGWP working in a NOC 0 position since May 2019. She wants me to get her a SOWP
Will CIC know that she did not attend classes and was working fulltime for 3weeks? and will refuse the application for that reason?
the fact she went home on her own is that seen as a positive by CIC?
is it possible that she might be refused the SOWP if VO suspects she wasnt a bona fide student before. that now she wants to get back to Canada? my intentions are true that i want her to come back. but im wondering will VO investigate her background(ie.school transcript. attendance records ect.) before approving SOWP.
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selvakk

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is it possible that she might be refused the SOWP if VO suspects she wasnt a bona fide student before. that now she wants to get back to Canada? my intentions are true that i want her to come back. but im wondering will VO investigate her background(ie.school transcript. attendance records ect.) before approving SOWP.
yes i do appreciate ALL **opinions**.on my situation
Technically speaking SOWP application is based on your PGWP, not her academic record. However, as part of the application process there is a background check. Now, I am not entirely sure what that entails. I think, if they have a record of her previous breach of study permit rules. Then, she would probably face rejection, as she has breached rules before and would be more likely to be a repeat offender.

If not in SOWP, then its possible in PR it could be found. I honestly think you don't have a choice if she wants to come to Canada. I would say that you should just assume you lit 150 CAD on fire and just apply, at worst it will be rejected.
 

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is it possible that she might be refused the SOWP if VO suspects she wasnt a bona fide student before. that now she wants to get back to Canada? my intentions are true that i want her to come back. but im wondering will VO investigate her background(ie.school transcript. attendance records ect.) before approving SOWP.
yes i do appreciate ALL **opinions**.on my situation
When she applies, the first thing they are going to do is create a application in the GCMS software that they use. While doing so, they will find her previous record through her passport# and other details. They will read all the notes that were left by the previous officer, CBSA, etc. If she violated the rules, then they will definitely find the notes there. I would suggest that before applying, get the GCMS report to see what's written there. When she applies, she can then provide clarification based on the notes or may be you can decide if you want to hire a immigration lawyer or IRCC consultant to make her case strong.
 
 

bongoman

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IRCC does not have access to peoples working hours, there is some separation between government agencies here.
Leaving school and returning home is not a violation of anything. She should be fine.
 

amitsil

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IRCC does not have access to peoples working hours, there is some separation between government agencies here.
Leaving school and returning home is not a violation of anything. She should be fine.
now other people have told me that they will definately do a background check on her. her school would have reported her. they can also ask for paystubs, bank account.check for overstay etc etc
 

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now other people have told me that they will definately do a background check on her. her school would have reported her. they can also ask for paystubs, bank account.check for overstay etc etc
there is a possibility that the school may have reported her if she has been absent from school. Why are you not ordering a gcms report. You are in Canada. Its easy for you to order yourself. It just costs $5.
 

amitsil

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there is a possibility that the school may have reported her if she has been absent from school. Why are you not ordering a gcms report. You are in Canada. Its easy for you to order yourself. It just costs $5.
im confused because i thought the gcms notes were only available "AFTER REJECTIONS"..to see why officer refused. i didnt know you can see if school put that she didnt attend classes.
 
 

selvakk

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im confused because i thought the gcms notes were only available "AFTER REJECTIONS"..to see why officer refused. i didnt know you can see if school put that she didnt attend classes.
GCMS Notes are available as a right to information. Normally people request the notes after refusal. However you can apply for it regardless of approval or rejection of your study permit.
 

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im confused because i thought the gcms notes were only available "AFTER REJECTIONS"..to see why officer refused. i didnt know you can see if school put that she didnt attend classes.
everything that the immigration officers or CBSA would be notified about you, would be entered in the GCMS. If they were notified about your wife's absence from school and if they have taken any action on it, then they have no reason to ignore it and not include in the GCMS.
 

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GCMS Notes are available as a right to information. Normally people request the notes after refusal. However you can apply for it regardless of approval or rejection of your study permit.
he is actually trying to check if past records of his wife not attending lectures and instead working have been notified to CIC or not. Her study permit was also approved but she violated the study permit rules. She did leave Canada voluntarily and was not asked to leave.
 

selvakk

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he is actually trying to check if past records of his wife not attending lectures and instead working have been notified to CIC or not. Her study permit was also approved but she violated the study permit rules. She did leave Canada voluntarily and was not asked to leave.
I was replying when he said that thought it was after refusal only. My point was that it is not for refusals only, could have worded it better. Having a work permit, he can take a look at his wife's GCMS by requesting it directly to IRCC, there is not need to go with 3rd parties. I don't think conveyed my point on this occasion.
 
 

bongoman

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now other people have told me that they will definately do a background check on her. her school would have reported her. they can also ask for paystubs, bank account.check for overstay etc etc
So what if they reported her? She left the country after dropping school, nothing wrong with that.