Passport swipe

[emmagail]

Does anybody know, when they swipe passports at the airport, what shows up on there screen?
I have 2 convictions, both over 10years ago, and I was asked no further questions? Could it be i am deemed rehab'd without even realizing it?

 

[Baloo]

Could it be i am deemed rehab'd without even realizing it?

I would doubt that.

 

[emmagail]

figured that, but what do the read off the screen?

 

[Baloo]

figured that, but what do the read off the screen?

I suspect it would normally be FOSS notes, but it is likely to be more.
I assume you want to know if they can see details of any criminal activity?

If you have provided details in an application for PR or a rehabilitation document, that detail may be available.

I assume that you are aware that you are not meant to enter Canada if you are actually inadmissible ?

 

[emmagail]

didn't think they counted DUI, its not a criminal conviction in most countries, other conviction is over 10years ago. They never asked me at arrivals

 

[Baloo]

didn't think they counted DUI, its not a criminal conviction in most countries, other conviction is over 10years ago. They never asked me at arrivals

DUI certainly can count.


I am not an expert on this.... and i do not know your exact details.


It may be that "Deemed Rehabilitation" applies, but normally that is only allowed when there is one offence.

You are eligible to apply for rehabilitation if:

you have committed a criminal act outside of Canada (for which you were not charged) and five years have passed since the act; or
you have been convicted outside of Canada and five years have passed since the end of the sentence imposed.

Requests for rehabilitation should be made at a visa office outside Canada, and applications for rehabilitation can take over a year to process


The worry that I would have is that if they find out that you entered Canada while inadmissible life may become difficult. You would have misrepresented yourself at immigration, not good at all.
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/help-deported-out-of-canada-with-submitted-applications-its-not-fair-t60482.0.html

 

[Jurjen]

If they swipe your e-passport, they read out the chip. This contains a digital image of you, all the details that are printed as well and some countries already added fingerprints in them.

A big controversy, since the governments think it raises the security for false passports, but in fact you won't be noticed with a well-made fake passport anymore (because the government thinks it's impossible to make a good fake passport).

What else might show up? Maybe your document ID is logged and will show up recent entries to Canada on the same passport and anything else that Canadian authorities use your passport number for. So basicly: every time you used your passport, they might have made a log note on it. If your criminal history is commited outside of Canada and you never mentioned it to any embassy, it's unlikely that it will show up, since (as far as I know) it's not legal yet for countries to openly share criminal records. Only in special cases international warrants can be sent or specific records might be requested. (Although governments are currently working on making this more accessible for each other.)

I'm not an expert on this, this is what I read through time.

 

[elkan]

Not sure if this will help.

My boyfriend had a criminal conviction that is 15 years old, which according to the FBI was a felony, but the charges were dropped to a misdemeanor. When he tried to cross the border for the 2nd time into Canada he was questioned by Canadian Immigration at the port of entry in Sarnia, and his criminal record showed up on their system. He had never reported this to any embassy and has traveled to every continent with no problems. They questioned him about what had happened, but as soon as they noticed it was 15 years ago, they dropped it and upon further questioning (unrelated to his criminal past) was allowed entry on a visitor record. He never applied for rehabilitation. He has since crossed the border two more times. One time he was let through and told to enjoy his stay, and another time pulled in for questioning, but not about his criminal record, it was about the Visitor Record from a year ago.

When we applied, our immigration consultant told us that because his conviction was 15 years old, and immigration already knew about it when he crossed over, he did not have to apply for rehabilitation. I hope he's right.

 

[patiently_waiting]

Hi Emmagail, check out this site, http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/faq-inadmissibility.asp

This should give you the ins and outs of rehabilitation.

Another site, will give you what is deemed criminal in better length. As you can see a DUI is considered criminal and it would be in your best interest to leave the country before applying or you may run into trouble for being here having not been rehabilitated and were lucky enough to slip through the system. Really not trying to make this difficult for you, just looking out for you.

Are you inadmissible to Canada?

Please read the following information carefully:
In general, people are considered to be criminally inadmissible to Canada if they were convicted of an offence in Canada or were convicted of an offence outside of Canada that is considered a crime in Canada. In order to enter Canada, these people must obtain Approval of Rehabilitation or a Temporary Resident Permit at a Canadian Consulate or Embassy.
Offences involving operation of a motor vehicle while impaired by alcohol or drugs will, with very rare exceptions, render persons criminally inadmissible to Canada and therefore in need of Approval of Rehabilitation or a Temporary Resident Permit to enter Canada for any purpose and any length of time.


Approval of Rehabilitation
Approval of Rehabilitation may be granted if you can show that you have a stable lifestyle and that it is unlikely that you will be involved in any further criminal activity. You may apply for rehabilitation if five years have passed since the end of your sentence. Periods of probation are considered to be part of the sentence as are payment of fines and restitution of a driver's licence.
Approval of rehabilitation permanently overcomes inadmissibility arising from the offence declared.


Temporary Resident Permit
If you are inadmissible to Canada for criminal, medical or other reasons and there are compelling and urgent reasons to allow you to enter or remain in Canada, you may apply for a Temporary Resident Permit.
Offences involving operation of a motor vehicle while impaired by alcohol or drugs will, with very rare exceptions, render persons criminally inadmissible to Canada - and therefore in need of Approval of Rehabilitation or a Temporary Resident Permit to enter Canada for any purpose and any length of time.
A Temporary Resident Permit temporarily overcomes inadmissibility.


Authority to Return to Canada
Use this application if you are seeking authority to re-enter Canada prior to the expiry of an Exclusion Order or you are seeking authority to return to Canada because you are the subject of a Deportation Order.


Note: If you have urgent and compelling reasons for entry to Canada within the next 6 months and are eligible to apply for Approval of Rehabilitation (i.e. beyond the 5 year prohibition), we encourage you to submit your Approval of Rehabilitation and Temporary Resident Permit applications at the same time.

 

[TheDecision]

If they swipe your e-passport, they read out the chip. This contains a digital image of you, all the details that are printed as well and some countries already added fingerprints in them.

A big controversy, since the governments think it raises the security for false passports, but in fact you won't be noticed with a well-made fake passport anymore (because the government thinks it's impossible to make a good fake passport).

What else might show up? Maybe your document ID is logged and will show up recent entries to Canada on the same passport and anything else that Canadian authorities use your passport number for. So basicly: every time you used your passport, they might have made a log note on it. If your criminal history is commited outside of Canada and you never mentioned it to any embassy, it's unlikely that it will show up, since (as far as I know) it's not legal yet for countries to openly share criminal records. Only in special cases international warrants can be sent or specific records might be requested. (Although governments are currently working on making this more accessible for each other.)

I'm not an expert on this, this is what I read through time.

How do you make a fake passport with matching identity chip?

 

[patiently_waiting]

If your criminal history is commited outside of Canada and you never mentioned it to any embassy, it's unlikely that it will show up, since (as far as I know) it's not legal yet for countries to openly share criminal records. Only in special cases international warrants can be sent or specific records might be requested. (Although governments are currently working on making this more accessible for each other.)

I'm not an expert on this, this is what I read through time.

Jurjen, CSIS conducts back ground checks on everyone on top of the police reports. If you have a criminal history, they will find out. It is not illegal, and by signing the application you are authorizing them to conduct them.