Parent PR sponsor --- New System

[emceemouli]

Hi,

I am planning to sponsor PR for my parents when it starts in Jan 2014. I am not sure if I should hire a lawyer or if I should do it myself.

I had done myself earlier for us but there were no set limits. But now with only 5000 applications/ year, I am confused.

Please advise.

Regards,
Chandra

 

[truesmile]

OUCH! That's gonna be a LONG drawn out process to have a $law$yer$ involved in. 5,000 limit for applications?? Alls it means is you get your ducks in a row now and you submit your application the same day it's open in Jan. 2014. I don't think a lawyer will be able to help you much if you already know how to do it and you meet all the requirements.

 

[emceemouli]

OUCH! That's gonna be a LONG drawn out process to have a $law$yer$ involved in. 5,000 limit for applications?? Alls it means is you get your ducks in a row now and you submit your application the same day it's open in Jan. 2014. I don't think a lawyer will be able to help you much if you already know how to do it and you meet all the requirements.

Also I have another question

With regards to the new PGP program when it opens up on Jan 2, 2014, one of the clauses mentions that

"Canadian citizens and permanent residents (including co-signers, if applicable) who seek to sponsor their PGPs and their PGPs’ accompanying family members would be required to demonstrate that they meet the new income threshold for three consecutive years using only documentation issued by the CRA. Documents other than those issued by the CRA would no longer be accepted."

I have been a PR in Canada since Aug 2011 and I don't have 3 full years of Canada income although prior to that I was working in US. I have tax returns in Canada since August 2011 and prior to that in US Tax returns. So I will be having TAX forms for 2011 which included both CRA and US Revenue Agency, 2012 Tax Forms and 2013 when it comes the following year.Please advice if I will still be eligible.

Thanks
Chandra

 

[scylla]

I have been a PR in Canada since Aug 2011 and I don't have 3 full years of Canada income although prior to that I was working in US. I have tax returns in Canada since August 2011 and prior to that in US Tax returns. So I will be having TAX forms for 2011 which included both CRA and US Revenue Agency, 2012 Tax Forms and 2013 when it comes the following year.Please advice if I will still be eligible.

Does your 2011 CRA tax return show an income amount that meets the new LICO level (new LICO = old LICO + 30%)? If so, then you can apply as long as you provide CRA documentation for 2011, 2012 and 2013 - and as long as you meet the new LICO levels each year. Any US revenue agency information you provide will be ignored.

 

[Rob_TO]

Any US revenue agency information you provide will be ignored.

Just to back this up, here is a source explaining:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/backgrounders/2013/2013-05-10b.asp
Evidence of income confined to documents issued by the Canada Revenue Agency (CRA):
Individuals who seek to sponsor their parents and grandparents and their accompanying family members will be required to demonstrate that they meet the new income threshold for three consecutive years using CRA notices of assessment

http://www.gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2013/2013-05-18/html/reg2-eng.html
Limiting evidence of income to documents issued by the Canada Revenue Agency (CRA): Canadian citizens and permanent residents (including co-signers, if applicable) who seek to sponsor their PGPs and their PGPs' accompanying family members would be required to demonstrate that they meet the new income threshold for three consecutive years using only documentation issued by the CRA. Documents other than those issued by the CRA would no longer be accepted.

So if your Canadian income from Aug - Dec 2011 did not meet the full LICO+30% requirement, you may be ineligible to sponsor and may have to wait until the program opens up again in 2015 or later.

 

[emceemouli]

Just to back this up, here is a source explaining:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/backgrounders/2013/2013-05-10b.asp
Evidence of income confined to documents issued by the Canada Revenue Agency (CRA):
Individuals who seek to sponsor their parents and grandparents and their accompanying family members will be required to demonstrate that they meet the new income threshold for three consecutive years using CRA notices of assessment

http://www.gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2013/2013-05-18/html/reg2-eng.html
Limiting evidence of income to documents issued by the Canada Revenue Agency (CRA): Canadian citizens and permanent residents (including co-signers, if applicable) who seek to sponsor their PGPs and their PGPs' accompanying family members would be required to demonstrate that they meet the new income threshold for three consecutive years using only documentation issued by the CRA. Documents other than those issued by the CRA would no longer be accepted.

So if your Canadian income from Aug - Dec 2011 did not meet the full LICO+30% requirement, you may be ineligible to sponsor and may have to wait until the program opens up again in 2015 or later.

Thanks for the reply. I totally understand it but no where in the rules it mentions that you should have been residing in canada for a minimum number of years. I have been in Canada only for 2 yrs and 2 months ..dont know how i would be able to meet that requirement. I called the CIC call center and they don't have full info yet.

Regards
Chandra

 

[Rob_TO]

Thanks for the reply. I totally understand it but no where in the rules it mentions that you should have been residing in canada for a minimum number of years. I have been in Canada only for 2 yrs and 2 months ..dont know how i would be able to meet that requirement. I called the CIC call center and they don't have full info yet.

It's an indirect rule. If the only way to get 3 years of CRA notice of assessments that meet the LICO+30% requirement is to actually reside in Canada for 3 full years... then that is what you need to do.

I'm sure they will be very strict about this, with limited or no flexibility.

 

[truesmile]

Agreed. But I'd say "none" with regards to flexibility. With a 5000 cap on applications it'll be like 'Thanks very much for the application fee, it's been discarded as ineligible . . . on to the next one'.

 

[emceemouli]

Agreed. But I'd say "none" with regards to flexibility. With a 5000 cap on applications it'll be like 'Thanks very much for the application fee, it's been discarded as ineligible . . . on to the next one'.

Thanks everyone for the reply. May be I should apply next year.

Regards,
Chandra