Parent PR Sponorship and PR Questions

[dabdl01]

Hello everyone, i have a couple of questions regarding how the immigration process works after having read several posts around here and was hoping any of you could help me out, thanks in advance!

Basically, i am planning on entering Canada through the express entry skilled worker program as a PR around April 2018. I am an only child and would really want to be able to get my parents with me as soon as possible, they are 56 and 63 respectively. So i was wondering the following:

1- In average, how long would it take since i get to Canada until they could get their PR's?

2- How soon could i sponsor them for a supervisa after i get to Canada?

3- How often are super visas aproved?

4- When they get the super visa, i have heard they can stay for up to 2 years but that will really depend on the customs officer they get to talk to. So, with that said, after the time expires, can they go out for about 2 months to the states (We are not from the states, but do have tourist visas for the states) and then comeback and join me? In that case, are there risks, or any limitations while doing that? Could they basically live with me by doing that while they get their PR's assigned? I would have the means to prove i can mantain them salary wise, and they would also bring funds to mantain themselves.

Thanks for your help!

Dannie.

 

[Rob_TO]

1- In average, how long would it take since i get to Canada until they could get their PR's?

A long time as you need 3 years of Canadian income. If you get a good job immediately and assuming you won't meet income in 2018 due to just a partial year worked here, then with qualifying income from 2019, 2020 and 2021, and waiting 1 year for final tax return, you can possibly sponsor your parents in 2023.
Of course there's a also a lottery system in place for parent PR program, so starting in 2023 you'd need to win a lottery spot first, and only then could submit an app to sponsor them. Depending how many applicants there are each year for lottery, it could be indefinite amount of time if you aren't lucky enough to ever get picked. Plus rules for parents PR program can change year to year, so who knows what the rules will be that for out. The program may be more restrictive or even cancelled, who really knows.

 

[dabdl01]

Hello Rob, thanks for your reply.
So, it takes like 4 years just to send the application. Now, after i send it, if i get selected its about another 4 years to get processed if they accept it right?

 

[Rob_TO]

Hello Rob, thanks for your reply.
So, it takes like 4 years just to send the application. Now, after i send it, if i get selected its about another 4 years to get processed if they accept it right?

It takes 4 years just to enter the lottery. Only if your name is chosen from the lottery in that year, can you submit an application. If you are unlucky or there are too many people applying to lottery for small number of spots, it may take much longer to be selected in lottery, or maybe never. If you don't win lottery, you can't even submit an app.

At least for people that get chosen and submit an app, parents PR apps are processed much quicker these days. Many recent ones in 2 years or so. However as mentioned, rules or intakes for PGP can change at any time so nobody knows that the program will be like in 5 years from now.

Honestly I would proceed under worst case scenario that you may never be able to sponsor your parents for PR.

 

[dabdl01]

Thanks Rob, another question.
Is there any other way i could get to sponsor them? I wouldn't really like to settle in a country where i cant just bring them with me. When they age i would love to share my time with them. So, are there other possibilities? Or should i just desist from the idea of Canada as an option in that case?

 

[Rob_TO]

Thanks Rob, another question.
Is there any other way i could get to sponsor them? I wouldn't really like to settle in a country where i cant just bring them with me. When they age i would love to share my time with them. So, are there other possibilities? Or should i just desist from the idea of Canada as an option in that case?

Parents PR program is the only way.

It's not impossible, if everything goes according to plan and rules don't change much from today, then possibly in around 4 years after becoming PR you hopefully win a lottery spot and can sponsor them for PR and everything may go smoothly.

I'm just saying be prepared for the worst. Don't immigrate here under the assumption you will absolutely be able to sponsor them, as realistically it may not happen. Remember if they develop any serious health conditions in the next 5 years or so, this could also make them ineligible to be sponsored.

Alternately, if you immigrate to Quebec they currently only require 1 year of income so the waiting time before applying to lottery would be cut down a bit.

 

[wildemam]

You can invite them to come over a supervisa and they can stay for visits. They will have no health plan, and will be able to stay for visits shorter than 6 months.

 

[Rob_TO]

To answer your questions on supervisa.

2- How soon could i sponsor them for a supervisa after i get to Canada?

As soon as you get a good job. I think the only requirement to prove income is paystubs or a letter from employer stating your annual income is higher than LICO. Not as strict as parents PR program which requires official CRA tax returns.

3- How often are super visas aproved?

All the time. Success rates for supervisa are quite high.

4- When they get the super visa, i have heard they can stay for up to 2 years but that will really depend on the customs officer they get to talk to. So, with that said, after the time expires, can they go out for about 2 months to the states (We are not from the states, but do have tourist visas for the states) and then comeback and join me? In that case, are there risks, or any limitations while doing that? Could they basically live with me by doing that while they get their PR's assigned? I would have the means to prove i can mantain them salary wise, and they would also bring funds to mantain themselves.

Supervisa is a multi-entry visa, so yes they can go to states and return as they need to. You are right that it's up to CBSA officer to decide what length of stay (up to 2 years) they will get upon entry. Some people get full 2 years, while I've heard CBSA sometimes grants just shorter times (like 6 months) for whatever reason.

Remember you also need private emergency medical insurance for them during the time here under supervisa.

 

[dabdl01]

First of all, many thanks for the time you are spending on helping me, really appreciated.

By your experience, or other's experiences, during those say 10 years (Worst case escenario) of trying to get their PR, could they get their supervisa denied if they leave every two years for about 2 months? In the US, it usually happens to parents trying to reach their sons, they come in and out, and after a year or so their visas get denied, so that would be my question, if they got this 10 year supervisa, could they spend about 8 years coming in and out? (Something like, 1 year and a half, then 4 months out then in?) I just want to make sure that is possible and what are the risks with that.

Again, thanks for your help!

 

[Rob_TO]

First of all, many thanks for the time you are spending on helping me, really appreciated.

By your experience, or other's experiences, during those say 10 years (Worst case escenario) of trying to get their PR, could they get their supervisa denied if they leave every two years for about 2 months? In the US, it usually happens to parents trying to reach their sons, they come in and out, and after a year or so their visas get denied, so that would be my question, if they got this 10 year supervisa, could they spend about 8 years coming in and out? (Something like, 1 year and a half, then 4 months out then in?) I just want to make sure that is possible and what are the risks with that.

Again, thanks for your help!

I'm not sure the specifics here. For these kind of questions you might want to try browsing or posting in the "Visitors" section of this forum as there are many threads there about supervisa.

 

[scylla]

Respected Experts..

I hope that I will get the good information in this thread. My wife got her mother's PR email request from the lottery which she submitted may be few years back.

We are three members in the family.... me, my wife and my mother-in-law. I am married since 2016.. I gave my documents to my wife so that she can sponsor her mother to canada.. But we bot are now filing for Separation first and then Divorce.. The case for her mother is already processed and is near about completion..

So my.. question is that once I got separated from my wife.. what will happen to my documents (CRA Tax receipts, my pay slips..) which my wife submitted to CIC for her mother's PR Sponsorship .. Do I need to give money to CIC to get rid of my sponsorship or do I need to pay to my mother in law on month to month basis..

Can this effect my residency status... in am PR now. Please help me in giving me this info..

Also let me know if there is separate thread for this kind of questions...

Thank You

You will be financially responsible for your mother in law for 20 years after she lands and becomes a PR - unless you withdraw your sponsorship now before she becomes a PR. Being financially responsible means that if your mother in law ever goes on social assistance, you will be responsible for repaying this money to the government, along with your wife.

 

[sidhuripudaman]

You will be financially responsible for your mother in law for 20 years after she lands and becomes a PR - unless you withdraw your sponsorship now before she becomes a PR. Being financially responsible means that if your mother in law ever goes on social assistance, you will be responsible for repaying this money to the government, along with your wife.

I thought the length of sponsorship is only 3 years as in they are financially responsible for 3.

 

[scylla]

I thought the length of sponsorship is only 3 years as in they are financially responsible for 3.

No. That's for spouses. It's 20 years for PGP.

 

[sidhuripudaman]

No. That's for spouses. It's 20 years for PGP.

Oh I see! Didn't know that!