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aiman.b

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Nov 26, 2015
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Good evening;

I became a permanent resident of Canada in 2011 and at that time i was already enrolled in my second year in medical school so i couldn’t stay for more than 2 months.

I have a PR card which will expire in April 2017 and I can’t return back to Canada before July 2017 because now the final year is about to start and at that time "July 2017" it will be the final year which is my graduation date from the Medical school.

The problem is that i have not lived in Canada for more than 10 months because of my education.

A lawyer told me that I have a good reason to apply for renewing my pr card under the H&C and would take from 1 year to 1 and a half year to process the application.

After my graduation i will no longer be permitted to stay in the country that am currently studying in and i can’t return back to my country “Iraq" because of the dangerous situation there.

by the way, my parents and brothers live in Canada and they all have PR status.

Would it be possible to renew my pr card after the expiration? as I do wish to settle in Canada forever.

Would like you get your advice and any help will be appreciated

Regards,
 
You're too old to be able to save your PR status through H&C. It would be one thing if you had been a minor when you had left Canada and were removed by your parents. However you made the decision to study outside of Canada as an adult. So there's no H&C reason - you just made a personal life choice not to make your PR status a priority.

I would forget about applying for H&C - I think the chances of success are very low. Instead, you'd be better off trying to re-enter Canada without being reported, stay for two years straight to meet the residency obligation and then apply to renew your PR status. Ideally you should try to do this before your PR card expires. But if you can't, then you need to obtain a US visitor visa so that you can fly to the US and then re-enter Canada by land using your confirmation of landing document. If you are not reported at the border for failing to meet RO, you'll need to stay in Canada for two years straight without leaving and then apply to renew your PR card once you do in fact meet RO. If you are reported at the border for failing to meet RO, you'll need to appear at a hearing to argue why you should be allowed to keep your PR status. If the decision is not in your favour, your PR status will be officially revoked and you'll have to leave Canada.
 
I have to agree with scylla here. You chose to study outside Canada and that is not considered to be H&C grounds. I am sure that the lawyer who told you this would be happy to collect your money though.

If is however possible that you could win an appeal based on your situation not having a visa in the country where you are studying and not being safe to return to Iraq. It's worth a short anyway.

So if you are truly unable to return to Canada until after your PR card expires, you should get a US visa. Enter the US. Go to the border and enter by land. When the immigration officers question you about how long you were outside Canada etc. Tell the truth.

If they decide to report you, you can appeal based on your whole situation, that your family is in Canada, that you can not return to your home country because it is unsafe and that you do not have residency in the country where you studied. You will be allowed to stay in Canada as a PR during the appeal processing which can take 1-2 years.

If they don't report you, you can stay for 2 years straight and then apply to renew your PR card because you will meet the RO again.

However, from what I've heard it is extremely hard for foreign educated medical doctors to get licensed in Canada so it might actually be better for you to go somewhere else.
 
aiman.b said:
A lawyer told me that I have a good reason to apply for renewing my pr card under the H&C and would take from 1 year to 1 and a half year to process the application.

As others have noted, if possible, if you are able to travel to Canada and are allowed to enter Canada without being reported, and you then live in Canada for two years, staying in Canada without leaving and without making any application to Immigration, Refugees, and Citizenship, your PR status will be secure. That said, these days I think the possibility of doing this, traveling to Canada and being admitted into Canada without being reported, is a big IF. How much so depends on many factors. I'll leave that aspect of things to others.


Regarding making the H&C case to retain PR status:

To better understand the procedure, the underlying issues, and the substantive elements relative to the respective issues involved when a PR is subject to a Residency Determination, and in particular when the PR has not been in Canada at least 730 days within the preceding five years and is relying on H&C grounds to retain status, see the following at the CIC or Immigration, Refugees, and Citizenship website (the latter is the current formal name of what was before "CIC," but to date the website is still "CIC" or "Citizenship and Immigration Canada"):

for ENF 23 "Loss of permanent resident status" see
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/enf/enf23-eng.pdf

In this manual, see section 7.7 (beginning page 26) in particular for discussion of H & C considerations (section is titled "Humanitarian and compassionate determinations").

for OP 10 Permanent Residency Status Determination see http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/op/op10-eng.pdf

In this one, see section 5.4 beginning on page 14 for discussion of H &C grounds.


Regarding H&C grounds in PR RO cases:

There is a lot of misinformation about H&C determinations, in the PR RO case, in this forum, and in other forums.

In contrast, most of what is said in the respective manuals is fairly straight-forward, albeit how the general policies and practices apply to particular facts is not so readily discerned. Moreover, predicting the outcome of the H&C case is very, very difficult unless it is an obvious case (as in obvious there are insufficient grounds for H&C relief, or obvious there is a strong H&C case).

Other than consulting with a licensed Canadian immigration lawyer, for the PR who is competent to do the research the best source of information, about how CIC has in the past approached these cases, is best illustrated in appeal decisions, both those published by the IAD and the Federal Court. These can be researched at the Can LII website (see http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/ )


Debunking myths:

-- there is no age limit for H & C grounds
-- all reasons for not returning to Canada sooner must be considered (weight, or influence of particular reasons will vary considerably, from a lot to not much at all; but how much weight a particular reason carries depends largely on what it is, the context, the PR's circumstances and history, and other factors specific to the particular individual)
-- -- for example, remaining abroad for employment reasons must be considered (but in most situations probably carries quite little weight)
-- -- for example, remaining abroad to complete studies will definitely be considered (weight probably varies considerably, depending on PR's circumstances including age, nature of studies, and other factors)

See the cited and linked manuals for more thorough discussion of what reasons are specifically considered in H&C assessments. Those referenced in the manuals, however, are illustrative, not exhaustive, and again the PR can, and should, present any and all truthful explanations there are for remaining abroad, and those must be considered.



Overall, the PR RO H&C case is very, very different from assessing H&C grounds in other contexts. In many PR RO cases it is far more about whether the PR deserves the opportunity to retain PR status. Compelling H&C cases in other contexts, especially those involving extreme hardship (such as for obtaining PR status itself or for not being deported despite being inadmissible), will typically be enough. And the impact on minor children is a huge factor. But for the PR RO case, there is significantly broader discretion and generally a measure of flexibility if not leniency allowed. Thus, for example, some assert that those reasons rooted in a choice, by the PR, precludes them from being considered as H&C reasons. But this is really more about the weight given the reason. As noted, ALL reasons offered by the PR, to explain why the PR remained abroad, MUST be considered.

The scope of allowed flexibility and even leniency, however, should not be construed to be a license, and there are probably just as many cases reflecting a relatively strict enforcement of the PR RO and little or no generosity in assessing H&C factors. This is why it is so difficult to predict the outcome of a PR RO determination depending on H&C factors. Several Federal Court justices in particular have expressed the view that the PR RO itself, allowing PRs to be abroad 3/5ths of the time, has sufficient flexibility built into it that little or no additional flexibility is intended.

Again, there is very broad discretion, and thus ultimately widely varying outcomes. Except for the more obvious scenarios (dependents taken abroad while a minor; PRs who fall short of the RO by just a little and have compelling reasons, such as being the only living relative capable of caring for a terminally ill parent), any prediction of outcome is largely if not entirely a guess.

Beyond that, Leon highlighted some of the key factors which appear, in your case, to provide a basis pursuant to which you may, indeed, as the lawyer suggested, have a sufficient H&C case. The only thing I quibble with is Leon's statement: "You chose to study outside Canada and that is not considered to be H&C grounds." My understanding, as noted above, is that studying abroad can be a significant factor tending to support a favourable H&C decision, but the actual outcome in the particular case will depend on additional factors and circumstances. It is not as if time studying abroad will be counted toward compliance with the PR RO. That will not happen. But depending on the circumstances, time studying abroad may be a positive factor in how CIC or Immigration, Refugees, and Citizenship assesses the totality of H&C reasons.