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Do I need to get photos and medical for my wifes kids even though they are not coming to Canada with her
 
If they are classified as dependent children, that is not married and either under 22 or over 22 and full time students, they must be included on her PR application as non-accompanying dependants and she must get photos and medicals to keep the option open for her to sponsor them later.

The only case where she might be able to skip medicals and photos is if the children are of age and refuse to have medicals or if the other parent has full custody of the children and refuses to make them available for medicals. If that is the case, your wife will need to write a statement to immigration stating why she can not provide the medicals and photos for those children and that she understands that she will never be able to sponsor them because of that.
 
what a wonder ful mom she is! :o

If she does not include the medicals etc. then there is no way she can sponsor them later. And she can be free of them. They probably won't even get a visitor visa to Canada. Thats a closed door. It happened to someone i know.
 
She will have to list them because it would be misrepresentation if she didn't but the only way to be able to skip their medicals and passport photos would be to write a statement to the visa office stating that she knows that she can never sponsor them because she is not getting their medicals.

Immigration might accept that but it would be better to have a documented reason why she can't get their medicals such as other parent having custody and refusing access to the children or the children refusing to do the medicals.

It is better to do it though. Intentions can change. Maybe she doesn't want to bring them now but she could change her mind at some point before they reach age 22 and want to sponsor them. This is your wife and it could cause her unhappiness later on which will cause you unhappiness in the process. It is better to get the childrens medicals if possible as not to close any doors. Even if she does get their medicals, it is not like it forces her to sponsor them at any point. It just keeps that door open.
 
I am always surprised that men will marry a woman who is willing to leave her children behind. It's so sad.

She MUST include them on the application and have their medicals done. I assume they live with their father? What if he died...and she could not sponsor them to come to Canada? She would just abandon them?

I certainly hope your wife's children are at least teenagers and ready to venture out on their own. I think it's sad enough when a father does this, but when a mother does it, it is almost incomprehensible to me.
 
You know you should not make comments about people when you know nothing about the situation. It is none of your business, So unless you have some useful info.
 
We will be living in Canada 6 months and 6 months in the Philippines. My wife does not want to disrupt the kids education and they do not wish to come here. My wifes mother will be looking after them when we are not there. One is 18 and the other is 16. The reason I am asking about this is because having them get a medical cost about 5 or 6 hundred dollars a piece, I have to fly them across the country to one of the medical offices that the Canadian gov. has approved and it seems a waste of money if they are not even coming to Canada. Down the road a I plan on retiring in the Philippines.
 
sjp52 said:
We will be living in Canada 6 months and 6 months in the Philippines. My wife does not want to disrupt the kids education and they do not wish to come here. My wifes mother will be looking after them when we are not there. One is 18 and the other is 16. The reason I am asking about this is because having them get a medical cost about 5 or 6 hundred dollars a piece, I have to fly them across the country to one of the medical offices that the Canadian gov. has approved and it seems a waste of money if they are not even coming to Canada. Down the road a I plan on retiring in the Philippines.

its not a waste of money, its their future. They may not want to go to Canada right now while they are still in school, but what about for university or any other time in their lives? You get one relatively hassle-free chance at this. If you don't do it now, you won't ever be able to do it. Plus you'll have to explain it to the Immigration Officer working the file and that's other hassle to go through.
 
Hi,

My advice is to make both children do their medical.
It's going to be a wise decision in the future.
 
plumosa said:
its not a waste of money, its their future. They may not want to go to Canada right now while they are still in school, but what about for university or any other time in their lives? You get one relatively hassle-free chance at this. If you don't do it now, you won't ever be able to do it. Plus you'll have to explain it to the Immigration Officer working the file and that's other hassle to go through.

so true. the kids are at the age for university in a bit. Canada has so many advantages. Kids don't see it now, but surely you do, having been to canada myself, i am amazed at the free health care, the range of universities to go to, its the world of work possibilities, standard of living etc etc. Why deny them that? This is a golden opportunity for them.
 
sjp52 said:
We will be living in Canada 6 months and 6 months in the Philippines. My wife does not want to disrupt the kids education and they do not wish to come here. My wifes mother will be looking after them when we are not there. One is 18 and the other is 16. The reason I am asking about this is because having them get a medical cost about 5 or 6 hundred dollars a piece, I have to fly them across the country to one of the medical offices that the Canadian gov. has approved and it seems a waste of money if they are not even coming to Canada. Down the road a I plan on retiring in the Philippines.
I also advise you to get the children's medicals done. It costs quite a bit now, but if you don't get them done and the situation changes and then your wife does want to sponsor them, she will never be able to and the legal fees then will be much higher than the cost of the medicals now.
Also sometimes the visa officer will reject an application where a parent has just written a letter stating they don't want to sponsor the child, so no medical was done. They prefer to see a convincing reason - such as the custodial parent refuses to get the medical done - and even then I have seen applications rejected for this. Keep in mind one of the standards the visa officers use to judge if a marriage is genuine is how each spouse treats the children of the other, and how they feel about the step-children.
 
Immigration may accept it as a reason not to have the medicals that the kids are that old and refuse to be examined.

It would however be better to get it done. Kids at these ages can change their opinion quickly. 5-600$ a piece now could buy you peace in the future. That is if one of the kids or both decide in a year or two that they want to go to Canada and their mother can sponsor them because they did the medicals vs. can not sponsor them because they didn't.